1905 Classical Revival – Montezuma, GA

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510 S Dooly St, Montezuma, GA 31063

  • Auction
  • 5 Bed
  • 3 Bath
  • 5334 Sq Ft
  • 2.02 Ac.
5 bedrooms 3 baths 2 parlors and 2 Halls big enough for living area. Live bidding is ACTIVE for this property, sold in "as is" condition without contingencies or warranties. Make your bid now!
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  1. John Shiflet says: 5456 comments

    Interesting house. In looking at the inside details, they seem to range over several decades with the most recent additions being from around 1900. 1885 would have been very early for Neo-Classical revival but its possible the house was built for someone who never lost their fondness for the old Antebellum Greek Revival style. It’s also possible the house was an Italianate transformed a bit later to a Classical Revival but the staircase is of the “Colonial” Revival flavor (in 1885 most staircases terminated in a massive newel post) so its hard to determine anything with certainty without added documentation. With almost four acres, it could be someone’s “estate” again. I personally like this one even with the blend of details.

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    • Robt. W.Robt. W. says: 359 comments

      Agreed with John that the 1885 date seems a little early, and also that the lower run of the center hall balustrade is perhaps later than the house — and later than the square newel and possibly heavier balustrade at the landing. Otherwise, it seems very much of a particular moment.

      Greek Revival and Classical Revival and Colonial Revival, Georgian, Georgian Revival, Federal, Adamesque, Regency…all fall in the long tradition of Neoclassicism that was a constant, sometimes dominant thread, especially in the South. Big, full-height porticoes had a different appeal to different people at different times, and while not uniquely Southern, the long-held taste for them, dating back to Hampton Plantation and Mount Vernon, is a feature of Southern landscapes that never really faded in the popular imagination.

      The great, oversized fanlight in the portico pediment calls to mind a group of houses in another part of the state, Milledgeville, though somewhat rethought and rescaled.

      It would be nice to see the exterior properly restored, with all the balustrades and details seen in the historic photo.

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  2. says: 471 comments

    I like the combo, too. And I especially like that big arched fanlight window in the pediment.

  3. Mark says: 145 comments

    Very nice imposing home. Cost is going to add up fast to get it to look like the old photos.

    Sometimes it’s hard to get a real feel for the condition from the photos. Here, it seems odd to me that the interior looks well maintained and has some nice period furnishings, yet the exterior has degraded and looks nearly abandoned.

  4. says: 8 comments

    Hats off to the owner for trying to keep it original to the picture. The room with the boar’s head the cathedral columns, was that an add on at a different time? They just seem out of place?

  5. says: 41 comments

    One word. Yes. To all of it.
    “thud”
    faints dead away from joy……..

  6. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11881 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Showing back on the market at $74,200. I’ve moved the post to the front page/today’s date so comments above are 2014 and earlier. I also changed the pics to the new listing pics.

  7. Cheryl plato says: 176 comments

    Wow! What a beauty. Great price.

  8. JimHJimH says: 5148 comments
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    The NRHP info says the house was built in 1905 proven by tax records; the earlier date comes from oral history that it was built on the occasion of the owner’s second marriage in 1884. Col. James E. DeVaughn (1840-1908) was an archetypal Civil War hero turned successful businessman:
    http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=52341513
    Like the recent house in Cochran, it looked a lot better 30 years ago:
    http://focus.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/NRHP/Text/85000937.pdf
    http://focus.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/NRHP/Photos/85000937.pdf

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11881 comments
      Admin

      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Thanks for finding the info, I’ve changed the build date.

    • Heidi says: 147 comments

      HOW does a house go from well loved in 1984 to this kind of neglected? It is beyond difficult for me to fathom.

      I love the second floor bathroom. Those three windows while your bathing, are awesome.

      • says: 108 comments

        Jim, thanks for those old pictures. What a stunner. Those people loved and SO cared for this gorgeous house! I’ve been on a Happy Wanderer kick (just bought Myron playing it on accordion). I’m just looking at every room of this house and running thru them in my mind, singing about going wandering thru my house! My knapsack on my back! I am SO in love with this place!

    • Rick says: 70 comments

      Jim we are lucky to have you, thanks for what you do.

  9. Daughter of GeorgeDaughter of George says: 1036 comments
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    1905 Neoclassic & 1937 Deco

    What a beauty. And the landscaping is just lovely.

  10. Paul W says: 468 comments

    This is a good illustration of “That Big House”, everyone ‘wants’ one, but the reality of what you do with it, and how you get there, eludes most people. Once you get above 3500 Sq feet the “manageable” becomes more difficult and usually impossible.

    If you look at the 30 yr old photos you can see evidence of peeling paint and wallpaper in the rooms, fast-forward 30 yrs later not one room in this house is restored.

    Ultimately with any old house, you have to have a restoration plan and you have to stick to it, doesn’t matter of you are taking the whole house approach or the one room at a time method. With really big houses you also have to understand that you are NEVER done. By the time you finish, its time to start with a maintenance regime of repainting, re-wallpapering an updating some mechanical aspect of the house. Just changing lightbulbs out in a really large house is an ongoing task. Plus lets not forget that you also have to live you life at the same time and hopefully be able to take a break.

    I love seeing these grand old houses, I just have to hope there are people with lots of time and very deep pockets to keep them going.

    I met yesterday with a guy who did the façade restoration on our building in the 1990’s and looked at those photos. Here I am, restoring his work 20 years later. But at least I came along to do it. Hopefully this house will find a good steward, because it deserves one.

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  11. chris32 says: 96 comments

    This is one of those houses that just fills me with questions! Why is it so inexpensive? What happened to the current owners? Did they run out of money, or lose interest in the project? Why does the outside look so decrepit, like a spook house?
    Oh, and Jim……*I* looked a lot better 30 years ago, too!

  12. Frank D. Myers says: 58 comments

    No matter the build date, it’s a great looking house. Square grand piano on the second floor — oh my aching back.

  13. MW says: 905 comments

    For some reason, the photos and condition gave me the impression this is a big old house out in the middle of nowhere where no one wants to live. But it actually looks like an in-town house. I always wonder why people let big old beautiful houses like this get in this kind of condition.

  14. Pepper says: 3 comments

    What a wonderful home! And with two acres!

  15. Mark says: 145 comments

    This is listed as a foreclosure. You’re not likely to get in for $72K.
    It’s banked owned and Zillow shows the expected foreclosure sale price of $218,000. These places seem to me to often sell very cheaply to the professional investors and then they bounce back and force between a couple of flips over a few years and settle back to a regular market price with a new homeowner. So yes, you could get it for cheap but you might need to be a real estate attorney.

    • MW says: 905 comments

      Mark,

      You don’t usually need to be anybody special to get these. The hard part is usually the bank only wants a complete 100% As-Is, quick cash only deal. Or at least have rock solid credit and pre-approved for a sure fire loan, typically from some other bank. They want it off their hands and with zero chance of any future drama. So, unless you are willing to be the buyer in that position, as most typical people aren’t or can’t, then they won’t deal with you. If they are asking $72K for it, and you offer them that in cash and with no terms, then they likely will accept it.

      If you are even sharper, you offer them $50K and see if they will take it. Sometimes they will, sometimes not. But to get lower than their asking can sometimes take a long time to get an answer as it has to go through a process which can take a while to get approvals. In the meantime, you might lose the house to somebody else wiling to just give them their already approved asking price. That is the kind of process you have to be willing and capable of putting up with for this kind of thing. But you don’t need to be anybody special to do it.

      However, if you do have the terms and are wiling to risk it on an As-Is sale, you better be knowledgable enough to know what you are potentially getting into and be prepared to risk things if something bad turns up unexpectedly. Sometimes inspections are not even allowed or only very limited access, so knowing the full risks can sometimes be a crap shot. These kinds of “investments” aren’t free profit and sometimes are profitable at all even at dirt cheap sales prices. Even for free, a big house like this needing a lot of work in an area that can’t support the cost to do so will be a bad purchase as far as financial sense goes.

      On Zillow, looks like there is a house right next door that is about the same vintage but in much better shape for est. $289K that sold in 1996 for $152K. Zillow is known to be wildly off sometimes andI think it sort of guesses based on houses being in average good condition, which this house clearly is not. So, assuming this house probably needs a good $100k worth of work to make it to average-good, I’d guess that a $72K foreclosure price is reasonable, but far from a smoking good deal. Even for an investor with cash in hand, this one might need some careful consideration before thinking there is a lot of easy profit waiting to be had.

      • mark says: 145 comments

        Hi MW,
        A value change from 1996 to 2015 of somewhat over 100K is pretty normal to me. I thought the bank foreclosure estimate is based on comps, but there’s a house nearby on W Railroad Street(not quite so original) but 4400 square feet and seemingly finished/liveable priced at $75K. I was presuming this was a higher priced neighborhood , but you’re right you could probably get this for closer to $75k than $218k, although Zillow just had a foreclosure article 3 days ago about banks not dumping properties any more.

        • MW says: 905 comments

          I didn’t catch the part that this is in an auction deal now. I thought the $74,200 was an actual asking price from the bank. I do see that the auction has a $52K opening bid which no one has hit yet, and says reserve not met. So, the $52K is not any guarantee, but if that is all they get, they might reconsider their aspirations. They definitely will if they don’t even get that. Keep in mind, the bank is still on the hook for min. monthly expenses just to own the property; not the least of which is property taxes, min. maintenance, security and liability. Every day they own this house, they are losing more money at this point. I doubt the market is headed up there given the average values. So every day owned for them is just money lost, not exactly what banks like to have on the books.

          http://www.hubzu.com/property/000102147899-510-S-Dooly-St-Montezuma-GA-31063?utm_source=Zillow&utm_medium=PaidReferral&utm_campaign=BAU%7cNational%7cNB%7cGeneric%7cz&utm_term=All&utm_content=PDP%7cPDP%7cz%7cREFERRAL_00000002&WT.mc_id=REFERRAL_00000002

          And my guess would be that they will be lucky enough if anyone even hits the min. bid, let alone gets more than one bidder after it. They are probably just wishfully hoping for the $74,200. I bet is someone showed up with $50K cash in hand and said they would buy it as-is, they would very seriously consider it. This house is big and needs a lot of work and they know it. This house going through another winter in the condition it is will only make selling all that much harder.

          Notice as expected: “Live bidding is ACTIVE for this property, sold in “as is” condition without warranties. Any contingencies are at the sole discretion of the seller and will be outlined during the bidding process. Place your bid now!”

          However, it does look like they might possibly consider a financing option since there is an indication of that on the auction site.

          The real problem with auctions is that those are the type of deals where they tend not to let anyone even inspect the property. You kind of have to buy it sight unseen except for whatever pictures you get or inspections you can wing quickly off the record without authorization. When banks are in auction mode, they also tend to be in hands off mode and not very helpful or cooperative.

          • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11881 comments
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            1901 Folk Victorian
            Chestatee, GA

            Crud, it wasn’t showing as an auction deal last night when I updated the listing. I hate these types of listings, they seem to go on forever.

  16. Sapphy says: 390 comments

    This one gets 83798273498273498273 stars! What a beautiful old home, and there’s so much space. I’m one of those people who can never have enough space, but i think this one might do it for me! I love the private yard too. I don’t even mind the pantry/kitchen, and that’s saying something. I’ll bet this place has a lot of ghosts. And i’d dance with them all on those huge, wooden floors.

  17. Tommy Q says: 461 comments

    Can that white paint be 100 percent removed from all that — no doubt — lovely wood trim? Is that actually possible?

    • Sapphy says: 390 comments

      I think it’s possible [with tons of Zip Strip] but it would be a huge, stinky job that would take forever to do. And the house would look a lot darker after the wood was stripped and stained. That’s why a lot of owners of old houses painted it white to begin with.

  18. David says: 1 comments

    I looked at this house just over 12 months ago. It needs a massive amount of work to being it up to a good standard. The ceilings must be at least 15ft high and there were 2 pianos in the house when i viewed it..

  19. Webby says: 9 comments

    This is a pretty home. A renovation staying true to the home would be awesome! 🙂

  20. RossRoss says: 2461 comments
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    1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
    Emporia, KS

    Oh.

    My.

  21. Karen Longo says: 73 comments

    Does anyone on this site live in or near Montezuma that could tell us what small town living in Montezuma is really like?

    • Curiouser George says: 141 comments

      I lived near here in the past, but that was 35 years ago so I’m sure it’s changed dramatically. A couple of years ago, though, I had a yearning to buy an older home in Montezuma as a vacation property and investigated the possibility. The house I subsequently wanted needed some immediate attention and since I’m overseas it wasn’t a good fit. Within the past year or so a large canning company closed and it was a primary employer so the city has had trouble filling the void. There is a wonderful old train station/museum down town. The realtor I corresponded with was born & reared in Montezuma, and his family had deep roots in the area. It was obvious from our exchanges that the town had changed, but he seemed optimistic about the future. A large ante-bellum style bank across from the train museum was being converted into a performance center, and a fairly active historic society was attempting to make other changes.
      Montezuma itself is much larger that the small town opposite it across the river. That town is Oglethorpe and is the county seat of Macon County. At one time during the 19th century, Oglethopre was a thriving boom town owing to being the terminus of the railroad moving westward through Georgia. There was even talk of it becoming the state capital, though this was probably more wishful thinking than likelihood. Later, the combination of the railroad moving further west to Americus and a typhoid epidemic put the kibosh to those grandiose schemes. In the late 1800’s, a gentleman of some local renown and influence was returning from a business trip to Macon, when he was ambushed and murdered while walking past the courthouse late at night. At about that same period, Montezuma (said to have been founded by soldiers returning from the Mexican-American War), was growing larger than Oglethorpe and felt it should be the county seat. The only way to settle the issue apparently was by means of a fair vote. So a county-wide election was held, at the end of which Oglethorpe managed to win the field and remained the country seat, and continues to do so to this day. An interesting side-story to this election was that when the final votes were counted, Montezuma had 2 to 3 times more votes than actual voters, and Oglethorpe had maybe 4 times more votes than voters! A lot of money changed hands that day, and many people rose from the grave in order to cast their opinion. I lived and worked in Oglethorpe for a year, and enjoyed the sense of wild history that both towns brought with it. A few miles to the west is the Andersonville National Historic Site, infamously known as the location of a prison housing Northern soldiers during the Civil War. A bit further is Americus, which is a quaint town still, and a bit more beyond is Plains, where President Carter and his wife continue to reside.
      All in all, were I not tied to other duties and responsibilities, I’d welcome the opportunity to resurrect this Montezuma mansion. It’s not in such bad condition that it would be an impossible task, and I suspect the end result would be worth any and all the pain along the way.

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  22. Connie G. says: 2 comments

    It backs right up to a huge hospital complex which would not be desirable in my view…lovely house though!

  23. Oh my….the understated glamour of it all. What a lovely estate.

  24. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11881 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Noticed on the auction site the reserve is met and sits at $90,000. 20 hours to go, let’s hope the highest bid works out to a preservation minded buyer. 🙂

  25. Karen Longo says: 73 comments

    Can anyone tell what the final bid was for the house?

  26. califgary says: 4 comments

    I was one of only two final bidders. The winning bid was $94,000. I was not the winner.

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