1737 Georgian – Framingham, MA – $160,000

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Added to OHD on 10/24/18   -   Last OHD Update: 11/5/18   -   31 Comments
613 Pleasant St, Framingham, MA 01701

Map: Street

Price

$160,000

Beds

3

Baths

1.5

SqFt

2536

Acres

1.46

Restoration, Resurrection. This home is a substantial project and it's one that needs to be taken under careful review and assessment before a showing is requested. The Potential is unlimited, however this home has significant frame and structure deterioration, the interior and exterior need "complete renovation" This home should not be considered as a quick flip project with some new paint and cosmetic repairs. There are NO working systems in the home, no working septic system and it needs to be connected to City Sewer. There is a current application request submitted to subdivide the parcel, and if approved by the ZBA, the existing house will have it's own 20,000 Sq.Ft.lot, there will be a NEW HOME BUILT on a separate lot behind the existing home by another owner. The home will come under review of the Historic Commission for front & side elevations.This home can NOT be lived in per it's present condition.The current owner was not allowed to demolish. GROUP SHOWING 10/30/18 text me
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David Ferrini, Coldwell Banker
(978) 443-9933
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31 Comments on 1737 Georgian – Framingham, MA – $160,000

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  1. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 9414 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Article w/ interior photos here but it is such a heavy ad site that I couldn’t even get through the photos (I don’t use ad blocker but someone else may have better luck.) I love that the agent didn’t sugarcoat the work needed.

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  2. TGrantTGrant says: 467 comments
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    New Orleans, LA

    Gosh, hopefully someone will step up and save this colonial original.

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  3. MW says: 677 comments

    Well, at least it isn’t overly modernized.

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  4. Joseph says: 303 comments

    I used to drive by this house every day on my way to/from work. Even back then (25 years ago) it looked like it was completely original (in that no changes/maintenance).

    It seems pretty galling that the town (now city) of Framingham had rampant development and building over the past 50 years or so, and now wants to “create a special historic district” just for this house, which is now in a neighborhood of homes from the 1960s or later.

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  5. JimHJimH says: 3816 comments
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    Framingham is an expensive area and small lots sell for more than they are asking here. If done carefully, the ancient structure could make for a charming and evocative family home.

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  6. Hazel Hayes says: 19 comments

    A true saltbox.

    Today, the untouched jewel of this period is an absolute rarity though this place may be such a gem. If so, this is the ideal condition to find such a place.

    It would be interesting to see more of the key interior features such as fireplaces, foundation, paneling, structural details, staircases, floor boards, etc.

    So often there are not enough photos to give a complete picture of the state of such a home.

    No matter what its condition a house this beautiful deserves to be restored with diligent attention to historic detail. This is a matter of scholarship, not “renovation.”

    What would it cost to clone such a house from the bottom up, with hand hewn beams, hand wrought nails, horse hair plaster, etc., built exactly as it was in 1737 (or 1741 as the chimney date indicates) by local craftsmen?

    An incredible beauty. Oh, if only it could be restored to its original splendor, plot included.

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  7. JRichard says: 234 comments
    1763 center-chimney cape
    Biddeford, ME

    It almost makes me ill to see a place like this so neglected. I sure do hope someone with deep pockets takes it on.

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  8. zoomey says: 437 comments

    The house is not beyond repair, although most of it will end up being replaced in the restoration, so I’m not sure what will be left that’s original, aside from the design and the location. It is a beautiful house, and a terrible shame that it fell into such disrepair. Historic structures like this ought to be treasured. Framingham is a very expensive suburb of Boston, so I would think the land would be worth the price, but if the new owner can’t tear down the structure, the cost to repair it would be many times more than the initial cost. It looks like it may be on a busy street, which makes me think this would be better suited to a business? I hope it gets saved. They aren’t making any more 18th century houses!

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  9. jeklstudiojeklstudio says: 865 comments
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    1947 Ranch
    OR

    This breaks my heart. Am I correct that a developer wants to raze it? The almighty dollar wins again…

  10. Sandy B says: 332 comments
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    2001 craftsman farmhouse
    Bainbridge Island, WA

    It would have been great if the City had long ago recognized the contextual importance of this house to the composite history of Framingham. I’ve been a member of our City’s Historic Preservation Commission for a number of years. In my experience owners willing to stabilize/restore a historic property, even to the point of development sacrifice, are usually those folks with a personal history in the community, therefore fully appreciating its intrinsic value.

    How I would love taking on this house. I’ve seen many much further gone brought back. I wonder if elements such as the staircase and mantles are still there??

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  11. VMaloney says: 93 comments

    Seeing the condition this house is in makes me very sad…I sure hope someone with deep pockets comes along and saves this one…

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  12. Sandy B says: 332 comments
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    2001 craftsman farmhouse
    Bainbridge Island, WA

    I printed the Preliminary Study Report for the John Hemenway House Historic District with a photo of the house in a fine condition on the cover. It was beautiful, and I know it could look that way again. Whoever let it go to its present condition should be punished….you’re right……it’s very sad. I hope it’s not too little too late.

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 9414 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      As much as I hate to see places like this go to pot, we don’t know the circumstances. The “whoever” could even be dead or it was beyond their control.

  13. Les Fossel says: 69 comments

    This house isn’t nearly as bad as it has made to look, note:
    1. The roof from the outside appears to be in good condition – and there is no indication of water stains on the ceilings in the interior photos.
    2. Since the sills are not buried in the earth, they may well be good If not then our estimating figure for sill work is $200/ft.
    3. While the house badly needs painting, the clapboards and exterior trim to be in reasonably good condition.
    4. The peeling paint on the ceilings on the inside is a combination of calcimine paint and the result of leaving the house unheated.
    5. The window sash are restorable. They need reglazing and the protection of storms.
    6. While I’m not a fan of painted chimneys, this one appears in fine shape above the roof. Since the chimney is original above the roof, then it is highly likely that all of the fireplaces (5 or 6) are intact.
    7. The stress cracks that you see in one photo of the exterior indicates settling (probably a rotted sill), but the rest of the exterior walls pictured have not settled.
    8. I see no water damage in the interior photos, just the peeling paint that is normal when a house is left unheated.
    9. The most likely pest damage is a powder post beetle infestation in the cellar. If so, buy some borates & spray them on – very cheap. Further, if there are rotted floor joists in the cellar, they are easily and cheaply repaired. If water is draining off the roof into the cellar, then it is not expensive to improve the drainage under the eaves to cure the problem.
    10. At least some of the radiators may be intact – note there is no indication of the radiator that is pictured has leaked on the floor.
    11. Many plaster repairs are quite inexpensive – all it requires is a bunch of plaster washers. Further, it is not rocket science to install gypsum plaster on wood lath where the plaster on the walls is missing. Ceilings are more difficult to plaster – sheetrock patches might be the most reasonable alternative.
    12. I expect the major costs will be about what you see in any old house that needs updating – kitchen, bathrooms, wiring, insulation, new furnace, etc.
    Les Fossel

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  14. Sandy B says: 332 comments
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    2001 craftsman farmhouse
    Bainbridge Island, WA

    Kelly, I wasn’t serious about punishment…..just a being facetious. I’ve been involved in preservation long enough to know there are many, many reasons we lose historic properties…..some even justified. This one is just too sad to easily accept.

  15. Alicia P says: 14 comments

    Single house historic districts have worked well in nearby Wellesley MA. It may be the only way to save this gem from demolition.

    • Joseph Rice says: 303 comments

      Can this house be restored? Well, with enough money you can do anything. The problem is that even when redone, there is simply not enough demand for this type of house (if there were, you would see lots of these being reproduced). And if I read this information correctly, the lot will be divided with this house on a half-acre plot, with a new, presumably large house over-shadowing it.

      The problem I have with these ad-hoc historic districts is that people seem to feel it is ok to punish the property owner because they want something picturesque to look at – but not pick up any of the expense or loss. Perhaps instead of creating a faux historic district, they could do as others – purchase, restore and resell with a stewardship easement.

      • Alicia P says: 14 comments

        Nothing faux about a historic district that could save an important building. The threat and the concept are both real.

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        • Joseph says: 303 comments

          I call it “faux” because it is one house (and even the land it is one will become only a portion of the remaining piece of the original land). A district of one? Really?

          I am not against saving these old houses; I am against trying to stick someone else with the bill.

  16. Sandy B says: 332 comments
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    2001 craftsman farmhouse
    Bainbridge Island, WA

    Les, thanks for your assessment of the Hemenway house. I tend to agree with you….not having actually investigated the house of course. So am interested to know if you have seen it in person and/or are a restoration contractor…?

  17. Gregory_K says: 317 comments
    OHD Supporter

    Chatsworth, CA

    For me, this house in its unrestored state is a real treasure.
    Outside, there is a great deal of deterioration, but many, perhaps most of the historic clapboards are salvageable. The early window trim, window sash and the door pediment also look as though the major problem is peeling paint.
    People often sweep in and replace everything without actually checking on the condition of the wood. Wholesale replacement of these antique wooden elements is disastrous. Early clapboards are usually lapped on their ends as well as vertically. In addition, they are short, because they were cut from relatively short sections of tree trunk.
    Over time, the building exterior develops a slight horizontal waviness that cannot be reproduced in the long, unbroken lengths of modern clapboard with their finger joints. The result of early clapboard replacement is a stiff, modern appearance.
    Modern replacement windows are often disastrously badly proportioned, the panes wider than they are tall, and plastic muntins that look silly even a city block away.
    Inside, historic plaster ceilings are pulled out to expose beams that were never originally visible to make the interior look ‘authentic.’ Damaged interior paneling and trim are ‘reproduced,’ not restored, with modern millwork equipment that produces ruler straight edges, not the slightly wavy edges produced by block planes. If fact, many old homes are so renovated that their heavy timber frame is all that survives. Just examine the truly depressing and very common real estate ads.
    Anyone who looks at a deteriorated house like this and decides that much of it has to be replaced will end up with a suburban copy of an old house, not one that is actually old.

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    • Architectural ObserverArchitectural Observer says: 380 comments
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      1918 Bunkhouse
      WestOfMiddleOfNowhere, KS

      You nailed it. As Hazel Hayes noted in a previous comment, ‘No matter what its condition a house this beautiful deserves to be restored with diligent attention to historic detail. This is a matter of scholarship, not “renovation.”’

      Sadly, there don’t seem to be many people around these days who can recognize or appreciate authenticity. We live in an increasingly superficial world.

  18. Sandy B says: 332 comments
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    2001 craftsman farmhouse
    Bainbridge Island, WA

    Gregory, well said, thank-you. I couldn’t agree with you more!!! Nothing can reproduce the sweet wear of time and lives lived.

  19. Sandy B says: 332 comments
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    2001 craftsman farmhouse
    Bainbridge Island, WA

    Architectural Observer I agree. Thankfully there are sites like these which help to share and teach history, architectural included. The most important endeavor in preservation is education. One of my favorite quotes is from a former professor of mine, Brown Morton III in, PAST MEETS FUTURE: “By its very nature historic preservation is always autobiographical: a person, community, society, or nation paints its own portrait by what it chooses to save. We preserve what we value…….”

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    • Architectural ObserverArchitectural Observer says: 380 comments
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      1918 Bunkhouse
      WestOfMiddleOfNowhere, KS

      Thank you for that; it is an excellent quote which is now one of my favorites as well – I intend to use it (even if paraphrased).

  20. Emily says: 3 comments

    I went to school next door to this house in the early 80’s and I was fascinated by it as a kid. The swings were close to the property line and I used to swing and imagine being a grown up living there someday. Watching it decline over the years has been depressing. I hope it ends up being restored.

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