c. 1828 Federal – Madisonville, TN

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Added to OHD on 3/22/18   -   Last OHD Update: 4/12/20   -   37 Comments
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4061 New Hwy 68, Madisonville, TN 37354

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  • $449,000
  • 2242 Sq Ft
  • 53 Ac.
53+/- Acres less than a mile away from the Madisonville-Highway 411 Interchange. Old Stagecoach home built around 1900, in need of total rehab or demo, large barn, several outbuildings. 2 ponds with about 1/3 of the acreage cleared. Zoned Agriculture, could also be for several commercial uses, as well as, residential or farm/agriculture. Bat creek runs across part of the back of the property, small TVA easement on Madisonville side through part of the back as well. This 53+/- acres can be added to the tract across the street for a total of 193+/- acres. Water & electric at road. Over 3/5 of a mile of New Highway 68 frontage. No survey, priced below a 2-3 year old appraisal. All measurements for illustration purposes only, all to be verified by buyer.
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Stuart Kendrick, Coldwell Banker / Wallace & Wallace
865-690-1111
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37 Comments on c. 1828 Federal – Madisonville, TN

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  1. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12204 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    A certain someone and their mother may have visited this home last year. That knucklehead (as in the certain someone not her mom) misplaced the rest of the photos, these were all that’s left. In any case, she stated this home is in pretty bad shape but is one of the earlier homes in the area. The mortar is mostly dust, the foundation has made the home so unstable that she would not recommend walking in the rooms (as a matter of fact, she didn’t even go in the house, the camera magically floated in and out without incident.) The staircase on the top floor is also busted so she would not suggest going up there. The home would need to be completely rebuilt. But those fireplace mantels are out of this world (and hopefully still there, these photos were taken last year.) If you want even more land, across the street is for sale too, 140 acres at $770k. Check out the agents site for photos of the barn, land and outline of the property.

    Across the street listing: https://www.cbcworldwide.com/properties/profile/ER576L-Madisonville-TN

    PS, 2016 video of a guy (I don’t know him, just linking, he doesn’t really understand what he is talking about but it shows more than what these photos did). That pink globe light fixture was gone when a certain someones camera was there.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5sR9z_tRR8

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    • AmyBeeAmyBee says: 824 comments
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      1859 Mod Vern Greek Revival
      Lockport, NY

      While that urbsn explorers was no archiectural historian, he did show real sensitivity to the plight of this house. The thing is, it is only money when it comes to restoring a nearly two century old house. It’s such a shame!!!

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  2. BethanyBethany says: 3464 comments
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    1983 White elephant
    Escondido, CA

    Sure looks rough but I’d hate to see an 1828 home demo’d. I hope the right savior comes along.

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  3. Grant Freeman says: 954 comments

    Yes this old lady is in bad shape but she could be saved. And be glorious again as well. Looks like lots of lovely details are still intact, though that staircase doesn’t even remotely look federal. More like the the love child of Eastlake and Art Deco.

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    • Signe Johnson - Grandeur Restorations says: 44 comments

      I don’t know for sure about that, it has a very Hepplewhite/Adams/Duncan Phyfe look to it, particularly in the reeding. I have seen original staircases similar to this in federal homes before and they are rare. Good eye though Grant! A lot of Art Deco interiors and furnishings we heavily influenced by the federal designs of Hepplewhite, Adams, and Duncan Phyfe, I used to present a lecture on this in my courses and the students were blown away when I presented the side by side examples. This house is really interesting, I wish I could get a closer look. I sure hope someone restores this home, the bones look great.

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  4. Carolyn says: 303 comments

    How would you save the brick? I’ve heard of re-pointing but is this too far gone. This house has so much going for it I hope someone saves it!

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12204 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      I don’t know enough about brick to answer that, maybe someone will do so. She didn’t poke at the brick itself to see if it had lost it’s hardness. They said (oh, who are we kidding…it was me and my mom!) it’s basically a salvage what you can and rebuild project. You’d have to remove all of the brick, completely redo the foundation, the roof, rot. Most of the floor except for that hall way that runs between the two rooms, too far gone to save. The whole back section, which I believe is an old attached kitchen (the guy in the video said one of the buildings was a kitchen, it wasn’t), would need to be completely redone too. There’s some nice trim work, windows that need restoration, that staircase, mantels that were all still in good condition (praying they are still there!)

      We didn’t look at the big barn to see the condition. The outbuildings are mostly tear downs except for a Gothic built one that had an old well in front (seen in the video.)

      I’m mostly posting this home because maybe there’s a rich guy or gal that’d love to tackle such a huge project. It’s on a busy road but the area around you feels rural at the moment, just trees and fields. Buy it, sell off some of the land to help pay for the mega rebuild or keep the land and throw some animals on it.

      Madisonville is a nice area, Maryville isn’t far if you need more shopping.

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    • Signe Johnson - Grandeur Restorations says: 44 comments

      I don’t think it is too far gone, we have done a lot of restorations of brick homes in the Mississippi river towns of Wisconsin that is a lot softer than the brick in this region would be. This is also out of the extreme temperature regions of the US. It appears to me, if you compare the area of brick that was protected by the weather, to the exposed areas, that the brick has mostly just surface edge erosion due to rain exposure, I don’t see a lot of uneven surfaces or spalling that would indicate fractures or loss of integrity. This house needs to be pointed before it gets too far, but it looks much better than many I have successfully worked on up here. People should be aware that when restoring brick exteriors, particularly on very early homes like this, they should use an original mortar mixture. Many of these homes were constructed of bricks that were homemade or produced in less than state of the art rural factories and can be sensitive. You want to use a mortar mixture that will expand and contract with the brick. You can find old recipes for mortar mixtures on the internet, and be sure to use a colorant to replicate the patina of the old mortar on areas that you you are not pointing, nothing looks worse than new white mortar patches on a beautiful old home.

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      • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12204 comments
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        1901 Folk Victorian
        Chestatee, GA

        I know from the pics they are hard to see how bad the brick is. The base of the brick are falling off in sections and jutting out (you can see part of it in that video I linked above in a comment.) Inside, the hallway wasn’t bad to walk on but all the rest of the rooms, the floor is on the ground and you can see outside along where the floor and wall meet (the video was a year or two old, it got worse since then.) The staircase is busted half way and kind of hanging (again, more noticeable in the video.) It’s going to be more than just pointing and the foundation is a whole can of worms. Whether it’s from basic rot or intense settling, I don’t know. If it required jacking the whole home up, sections of brick would further crack and fall off. My photos are poor representation of the condition. I had taken some shots of the bad parts, they may be on my computer but where I cannot find them. That video shows some of the worst parts of the home than my photos do.

        PS, I know my comment rule states not to judge from pictures but since I saw it in person and I know the condition I saw the home…that’s why here.

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        • Signe Johnson - Grandeur Restorations says: 44 comments

          Oh I believe you when you say it is bad, I did watch the video very carefully because I have family in Tenn. that I thought might be interested in this property. It is definitely more than pointing, but in 38 years of saving the un-savable, I have worked on houses as bad if not worse, including homes with already collapsed exterior wall sections. If someone was to lift this house to replace the entire foundation they would stabilize and do much repair first. If I were an interested party, I would definitely have someone with extensive historic preservation experience assess this house before calling it a lost cause. I would however not just call any local engineering or construction firm. A lot of people call us for advice when a contractor or engineering firm has told them a property was down for the count. That is no slight towards engineers or contractors in general, in my own family we are full of both, including a professor of engineering, but everyone has their own niche or specialty and sadly some pros just consider old homes not worth the cost or trouble of saving. Sometimes it comes down to just trying, after all, you are at worse long way towards your demolition if you safely try and it does not work. We’ve attacked several projects that were given maybe a 10% chance of working but the old house gods must have been smiling on us because it worked. Really, when a house is in this shape, you are paying for the land, and it could really be worth it to see if someone that knows what they are doing feels they can SAFELY take a whack at it.

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          • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12204 comments
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            1901 Folk Victorian
            Chestatee, GA

            It gives me hope that someone will see this and decide to go for it. A home of this age at this caliber are not many in this area and deserves a chance.

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            • Signe Johnson - Grandeur Restorations says: 44 comments

              I really hope so too, and I hope the buyer has a realistic idea of what needs to be done and can be done before they buy. Too many times people look at these homes with rose colored glasses, they get in too deep, and then they give up and tear them down and build a cheaper new house on the site. This kind of work isn’t cheap, but it is usually much less than rebuilding what you could have saved, and if you do it right you can come out with a home worth much more than what you would have replaced it with. I hope explaining some of the type of work that this house needs will help anyone that is considering this property. This house really has some above average architectural features for a rural home of it’s size in that area and that era. I am really surprised that it has gotten this far into decay. I think it is a gem that deserves a chance to survive.

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  5. CoraCora says: 2074 comments
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    Clinton, TN

    That lady and her mom need to take me with them on their next TN old house adventure…

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12204 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      LOL 🙂 So far there’s two we’ve looked at (Athens). I’ve been wanting to drag her to a home for sale in another part of Madisonville but I hate bothering agents if I’m not actually wanting to buy the place (link).

      But the post home is the best one we’ve seen so far. If I were rich, I’d buy it just to rebuild it and save those mantels and staircase!

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      • MaggieMayMaggieMay says: 62 comments
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        1945 Craftsman
        Athens, TN

        Make sure you check out the old bed and breakfast on Washington Street in downtown Athens!! My house is going on the market soon near downtown Athens, but it is nothing to post here. LOL!!

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  6. Robinjn says: 242 comments

    Oh it’s so beautiful! It would be such a shame to see it go.

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  7. Karen B says: 318 comments

    So sad to see such a delicious house decline so.

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  8. Miss-Apple37 says: 1169 comments

    I love old weather-battered bricks, they have so much more character than bricks from later, super flat and smooth.

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  9. Signe Johnson - Grandeur Restorations says: 44 comments

    Did someone say why they thought you would have to remove the brick to repair the foundation? We have replaced foundations under massive Victorian brick homes without removing any brick at all, we even lifted a full 3 story brick tower back into place and replaced the foundation just by excavating around the area and using railroad car jacks. This work should ALWAYS be done by a professional, but it can be done and would be much more cost efficient than removing the brick. Also, it would be unusual (but not unheard of) for this home to be a brick veneer, considering it’s age. I just adore this home, I wish I could get a crack at it, and believe me I have worked on a lot worse (including a couple of my own). I watched the video and it doesn’t look any worse than what my brick farmhouse looked like when we bought it and restored it.

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12204 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      If I said you have to remove the bricks to repair the foundation, it’s because I believe sections of the walls would fall off if you didn’t. Or at least good chunks of it. I don’t remember if ALL sides were like that but one whole side is really bad.

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      • Signe Johnson - Grandeur Restorations says: 44 comments

        Yes, I saw those in the video and they definitely would fall apart if you tried lifting without stabilizing and bracing. What we do with this type of damage is to excavate and remove and rebuild these areas from the bottom up. We usually install long steel braced angle plates between brick courses above the area to support it and we build a safe shelter to work under in case of any collapse from above. If the structure is still basically level we have been able to replace foundations without lifting the entire structure at all by working like this the full perimeter. You just do a section at a time. Corners on some have been like piecing a puzzle back together and you can jack whole sections right back into place, on others you brace and take it apart brick by brick and rebuild. You never know until you get into it. At any rate, this type of work needs to be done, and you need to do a lot of it before lifting if you are planning to lift the whole structure. I hate lifting whole structures, we had a giant three story dairy barn up on jacks when a tornado came through and we had to run for cover. I was never so amazed as I was that day when we came out of the basement of the house to see it was still standing. I figure I used up a lot of my luck on that one. This one is bad, but I think there is still hope. Our own big brick beauty had corners collapsed, floors and ceilings caved in, the staircase hanging off the wall, basement foundation walls caved in, and it had fire damage. We had to pay cash for the property because it was so bad, in weeks we had it all back in order.

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      • Signe Johnson - Grandeur Restorations says: 44 comments

        There is another good picture of this house on loopnet http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/4061-New-Highway-68-Madisonville-TN/5681440/
        You can get a much better look at the roof line etc.. From that photo I would really up my assessment of the structure, it is very straight and true. Of course I haven’t seen it up close and personal, but based on all photos and the video, I definitely think it is a good possibility that it is very savable. I understand the taxes are only $325.00 for it on the 53 acre parcel, if that is true it is amazing! We pay close too $6000.00 for parcels like this up in Wisconsin. If we hadn’t just kicked the illegal quarry behind and saved our place, I think I would be packing for Tn. right now. I love, love, love Tennessee!

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      • Mike C says: 2 comments

        Have tons of pics of this home on my instagram. Historic_archaeology. I have pics of upstairs as well. No issues.

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  10. abevyabevy says: 305 comments
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    1857 victorian
    Applegate, MI

    It is endearing, I believe. I wish we could have seen more. It doesn’t look as bad as I feared when I read through it the first time. tairway does not look so awful bad it could not be saved.

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  11. Leah SLeah S says: 160 comments
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    TX

    I first saw this home when passing through on vacation in 2013. I had to stop to take a picture of the exterior. It tugged at my heartstrings. My Mom and I went by again in May of last year, and seeing it for sale, we stopped to explore. I was horrified to see someone had stolen the gorgeous stair parts. Truly sickening! At least the mantels remained. I was so hoping someone could rescue this place.

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  12. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12204 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Thanks Leah for these more recent photos.





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  13. McMc says: 2 comments
    1945 Knoxville, TN

    These are not that recent. Was at the property today, someone has pryed the mantle and surrounding wood off the left living room fireplace. Looks like they will be back for it. The couch has been moved closer to the front door. Im currently researching the old home owner as I found his power bill from 1994. You said you only saw two pictures in my post which isnt accurate there’s actually three posts and one of them has 10 pictures in that post alone its a gallery you swipe to view.. interior exterior you name it, there is also a video.

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12204 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      I believe that there are more but when I looked through your account I had only found the two. I’m on desktop so maybe the setup is different than phone?

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  14. AmyBeeAmyBee says: 824 comments
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    1859 Mod Vern Greek Revival
    Lockport, NY

    Property being marketed for the land to developers (notice the residential development across the road encroaching on the land):
    https://www.commercialexchange.com/listing/24151905/4061-New-Hwy-68-Madisonville-TN-37354

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  15. AmyBeeAmyBee says: 824 comments
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    1859 Mod Vern Greek Revival
    Lockport, NY

    Property is also being marketed as “industrial” for its land value:
    https://www.ldcre.com/1041/4061-new-highway-68-madisonville-tn-37354-1

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  16. AmyBeeAmyBee says: 824 comments
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    1859 Mod Vern Greek Revival
    Lockport, NY

    Consideration is also being given to separate the property into two separate parcels on each side of the road:
    https://www.cbcworldwide.com/properties/profile/G7M3BS-Madisonville-TN

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  17. AmyBeeAmyBee says: 824 comments
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    1859 Mod Vern Greek Revival
    Lockport, NY

    Parcel including the house is being marketed solely for its land value separately:
    https://www.crexi.com/properties/164688/tennessee-4061-new-hwy-68

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  18. AmyBeeAmyBee says: 824 comments
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    1859 Mod Vern Greek Revival
    Lockport, NY

    Land across the road from the house being marketed as a separate parcel for the land value:
    https://www.landsofamerica.com/property/4061-New-Hwy-68—140%2B%2F–AC-Madisonville-Tennessee-37354/3769925/

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  19. AmyBeeAmyBee says: 824 comments
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    1859 Mod Vern Greek Revival
    Lockport, NY

    Definitely marketing the land to developers:
    https://buildout.com/website/257365-sale

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