1788 – York Haven, PA

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2675 York Haven Rd, York Haven, PA 17370

  • $89,900
  • 3 Bed
  • 2 Bath
  • 3394 Sq Ft
  • 3.73 Ac.
Turn this major rehab property, a circa 1700's stone farm house into your 3400 sq. ft. dream house on almost 4 acres of usable land. This property is not for the faint of heart, however it is for the dreamer inside you. Property being sold AS-IS. Seller Financing available for a strong buyer. The property is a total rehab, has not been lived in for at least 25 years, and being sold AS-IS. There are NO utilities turned on to the property.
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John Wiga, Re/Max
717-751-2122

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  1. Heidi Merkel says: 149 comments

    Beautiful stone work on the exterior. The bad part is it sits on 4 acres but is right up on the highway. I actually like that the interior is such an open canvas. Definitely a diamond in the rough.

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    • Merri Ferrell says: 20 comments

      It’s like that all over PA. So many beautiful stone houses either right on the road (not an issue when you would would see a carriage or coach once and a while but now lots of cars and trucks). Also, the stone homes that were once large farms, the land sold off so behind the home and the dependencies, a Walmart or shopping center. Very little good zoning there…and I think the state has so many great buildings, they take these small gems for granted.

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    • Doreen says: 231 comments

      That means it was a tavern in a previous “life.” Any large dwelling you see like this, especially on a major highway (or at a cross roads) was a tavern. I would ADORE to ask this place it’s history! Can you imagine? Right there on highway to/from Philly? Oh, you just KNOW some history happened there!

      Careful archaeological digging would find a stable nearby. People would have spent the night, as it’s a good, long way to Philly by horse or stagecoach.

      Would restore this to age-appropriateness and have a museum/roadside attraction, then build myself some little place off somewhere away from the highway. Yep Yep Yep.

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  2. says: 38 comments

    Would love to hear the story on this house.

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  3. Stacey says: 24 comments

    There’s something about the really older houses that speaks to me. I find myself liking the fact that while they need work, the character that they reveal is timeless. I scroll through the pictures, amazed at the fact that they have withstood the test of time. Bad trends aside, the original integrity speaks volumes.

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  4. Jim says: 51 comments

    “Let me live in a house by the side of the road. And be a friend to man…”

    Gorgeous rockwork! Right ON the road, though….a real challenge. I wonder how busy that road is?…

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  5. Mark says: 143 comments

    I like the exterior as well. The interior, however, seems devoid of most anything original. There are Victorian elements right through 1970’s elements.

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  6. Robt. W.Robt. W. says: 358 comments

    Agreed about the misgivings on the roadside setting and interior. The interior is a mixed bag, though it’s easy to imagine taking advantage of the blank slate that Heidi M. mentions. It wouldn’t be difficult or very expensive to outfit it with a combination of salvaged chimneypieces and restoration millwork, and the later elements, while contributing nothing, are relatively few. For all the alteration, the interior volumes still speak to the 1788 period; peeling back the alterations and restoring the original style floors and multi-light windows and woodwork would restore the feel of the original period, even if some of the specific details have been lost.

    Assuming the road isn’t a roaring highway, a big honking dense hedge across the front would be my solution to the problem of the setting. Americans are loathe to “hide” their houses behind walls or fences or hedges, but here a high enclosure is much called for it seems.

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  7. Tracy Everhart says: 6 comments

    This gem might be THE ONE! We have been looking for about three years and this one really speaks to me. I grew up about 30 miles north of here and I don’t think this road is too busy. I just wish they had not subdivided. They broke off two, two acre lots to sell separately. May need to try to negotiate to include original land!

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11850 comments
      Admin

      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Cool! Let us know if you decide to go for it! 🙂

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    • says: 30 comments

      Tracy, responding because I’m hoping you see this and went to take a look at this property. I keep coming back to this one, it just keeps catching my attention! The stonework is just so cool and it looks like the sort of house where original features might have been covered over rather than gutted out. If you went, did you see any major water damage? Can you remember if the basement looked like it had water issues? What ultimately made you decide against it?

      And, did you talk to them about tacking those 4 acres back on? I would want those too!

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    • michelle f says: 193 comments

      If you take the house, please share rehab photos as you go! Good luck.

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  8. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11850 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Reduced to $99,900. (2017 edit: went back up after this comment)

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  9. york haven resident. says: 2 comments

    I live down the street from this house. It’s been for sale for a long time.. I’ve been tempted to go peak around the property. The road is not busy fyi.. York haven is a SMALL town near the Susquehanna river. You can walk about 2-3 blocks down the street to fish in the susquehanna 🙂

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  10. RoxorVoxor says: 1 comments

    This house is gorgeous. I may be taking a job in Dover in September. If I do and this house is available it seems a renovation loan is in order. The exterior is gorgeous and the land is exactly what I want. I so badly want to peel back the fireplaces to see what is underneath. I’m a huge steampunk fan and would love to restore as much as possible on a house like this but put my own flair to it. As someone else previously mentioned a hedge would do wonders for seclusion but there isn’t a whole lot of space judging from the pictures. Hopefully I can get a chance to see it.

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  11. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11850 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Posted 2014, not sold but thought I’d move it to the front page for everyone to have another look.

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  12. tess says: 297 comments

    Just thinking outside the box. For a minimal amount of money it can be weatherproofed. There’s good road frontage and plenty of parking space. Cleaned up on the inside it would make a nice antique store.

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  13. Andrea N says: 77 comments

    Love it. I would need the help of Jeff Devlin the guy from DIY. He specializes on the stone house rehabs.

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  14. DianeEG says: 531 comments

    Although I understand the “too near the road” statements, this seems to be a New England feature of many old homes. Assuming it has to do with the winter weather and ability to get out without digging mountains of snow first. In the summer, folks used to sit on their front porches or out on the lawn and visit with those passing by. No need to build walls and dense hedges, rather just enjoy how it was originally situated as part of the whole history of the property. With the depth of the stone walls, I can’t imagine it would be very noisy from a small town paved road. For privacy, sit in the back yard.

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    • Joseph says: 422 comments

      Yes, it was a feature in the days when those homes were built. But of course, the horse/foot traffic was not much of an inconvenience. Even if the road is not that heavily traveled, this can get old pretty fast. You can change a lot on a house, but not the location.

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    • says: 12 comments

      No, it’s not unique to New England and for a long time I thought I was crazy for thinking it’s an issue, when so many others acted like it wasn’t or, worse yet, bragged on the corner lot feature like it wouldn’t be a huge traffic and noise problem. I backed out of one deal in Cincinnati and never even bothered with numerous others because the fine old homes were built so close to the roadway each time. Too often those roads ended up as state routes, or worse. So now I am in a 30 year old condo with no character at all, but at least it’s off the main road (in this case the A1A in Cocoa Beach.) I sure wish it was easier to pick up a house and move it. Whatever happened to that house-moving show on cable tv?!

  15. Dumbsheep says: 18 comments

    With those huge setbacks on the properties across the street I believe the solution is to arc the road in front of the house about an 1/8 of a mile before the property away from the house and then back again an 1/8 of a mile after the property. Everyone wins! Less grass to mow for the neighbors and a nice front yard for this wonderful old house. 😉

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  16. Minda says: 3 comments

    I’ve seen them move brick structures, can they move stone structures without disabling piece by piece? It would be nice to see some distance between house and road.

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  17. JRichardJRichard says: 182 comments
    1763 center-chimney cape
    Biddeford, ME

    I’ve never seen a raised panel door like the one in the third photo. Nice to see so much interest in this place — it deserves to be resuscitated.

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  18. Michele P Pagan says: 69 comments

    I agree with planting the evergreen hedge, between the house and the road, to create some privacy. But then, I would also create a new driveway entrance to go around to the rear of the building, and put the main entrance back there. With a lovely new porch and landscaping, this would be the new entry to the house, forgetting about the entrance that now sits on the road. That would also be easier than getting the town to redirect the road away from the house by 1/8 mile.

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  19. Ted Carbone says: 3 comments

    I had a home very much like this near New Hope, Pa. The walls were that thick, it was made from horse hair and lime built in the 1700’s. I always believed this was a home George Washington slept in, but no proof. But it was not far from Washington’s Crossing. Also near the road and they told me “no one lived in it in this century”, and that was in the 1980’s. I did re-hab it and added to it much like this one. The nearness to the road was never an issue and when I finished it, I loved it. It was all worth while. Same size property and I paid $60,000 for it in ’85. It must be worth a fortune today. Remember on this one the garage is around the back of the house which means you probably never have to use the front door.

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  20. rkeyesrkeyes says: 17 comments

    The only problem I can see with this house is the proximity to the roadway. It’s got a generous-sized lots, which is a real plus. I am confused – some of the building appears to be wood. Or is that siding covering stone? I wonder how well the stone blocks street sounds. While I like keeping original windows, these may be too degraded and may need replacement, at white yu some sound insulation in glass might be a worthwhile expense.

  21. Richmondbrickworks says: 14 comments

    The house could be moved to a better site on the acreage. Wolfe House and Building Movers in Berneville, PA is one company that could easily handle the job. The Wolfe website shows the move of a similar ca 1751 stone house in Carlisle PA in 2013. On that move they indicate that 1 1/2 feet of the stone foundation was moved intact on the house. The stone work on this house is superb.

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  22. Elisa Y says: 25 comments

    Ted Carbone:
    I live in Hunterdon County, NJ about 40 minutes north of New Hope. I can tell you that stone houses in the area start at about $500k nowadays. If you’re house was/is in the New Hope, Buckingham, Lahaska, Solebury area and you owned it today you’d be sitting on a goldmine! But the area has grown dramatically since the ’80’s and there’s lots of traffic, especially on the weekends.

    I’ve had my eye on this house for quite a while. You have to assume that it would need new electric, new HVAC and new plumbing as the pipes are probably the galvanized steel. Personally it doesn’t bother me that the house is near the road but I’m looking to be closer to Gettysburg so, sadly, I’ll have to pass on this one. Good luck to whoever buys it!
    u

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  23. GoddessOdd says: 324 comments

    Love the house, but even a quiet road still means traffic whizzing past your doorstep. A nice stone fence would make me feel safer, and quite an Old England thing to do…covered with climbing roses and with a nice arched entryway…mailbox set in the wall…it could be lovely. I wonder if this house has any existing plumbing at all, as there are no photos of any kind of fixtures, or even light fixtures for that matter. If anyone looks, PLEASE report back, as I think all of us would love to follow this house.

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  24. Glorybe says: 133 comments

    Thinking large evergreens & a dry stone wall would be some of the answer for the separation of the house from the road. Maybe there’s not even room for these?
    It’s fascinating how many folks are interested in this house and I look forward to the Saga continuing.

  25. abevy says: 310 comments

    Village might not allow fence in front of the house. Depending on zoning. I don’t know if possible to move or not–have to call house moving company.

  26. VMaloneyVMaloney says: 95 comments

    I too would love to know more about the history of this old stone home.

  27. RobynMeRobynMe says: 111 comments
    1907 George F. Barber
    Hamlet, NC

    My stone house weakness got the better of me.
    Spoke with the agent and it (unfortunately) needs the works. Structure/bones good, but everything else… septic, well, electric, plumbing, HVAC, kitchen, bath will all need to be redone. While there is a circuit box, the words “knob and tube” were also used.

    Since I need someplace with at least running water and a working chimney while fixing up, this one is beyond my skills/budget. Hope the right buyer finds this one. It deserves better than abandonment.

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    • michelle f says: 193 comments

      thank you for those details as to condition. Sounds like *** of infrastructure before tackling the pretty stuff. Sounds like it would also be wise to have a preservation architect/engineer on stand-by for help with those unexpected surprises that hit every renovation. Not for the faint of heart, but worthy of someone who will treasure this home.

      (admin edit: no values on update costs please)

  28. Karie says: 1 comments

    How does one do a research to find any history on a house?

  29. JimHJimH says: 5098 comments
    OHD Supporter

    I haven’t been able to find much online about this intriquing old place. The state survey calls it a Georgian style inn or tavern and guesses at a 1770’s date. There was a colonial ferry at York Haven and an early canal. I suspect the 1788 date has some factual basis unknown to us. The property was owned later in the 1800’s by prominent local farmer John Cassel but I don’t see that his family was here much earlier. York County’s long history is well-documented but hidden away in archives requiring local research.
    There are major challenges to renovating this place but it’s not impossible that someone could be inspired to make a go of it.

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11850 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Thanks Jim for the effort. Crossing my fingers the road won’t be a problem and it’ll be restored.

      • says: 20 comments

        I enjoy a 19th C home on Prince Edward Island set back from a country road with century trees, big lawn. It is gorgeous all year, including winter. AND the winter beauty becomes compromised after years of clearing snow from the long driveway. In town, all houses are on streets, are subject to lawn mowers, leaf blowers (should be banned), etc. all summer when you are typically enjoying your gardens. Most of us likely have properties with some down side.

        Pennsylvania has winters more harsh than PEI. Unless it’s a busy highway, the home’s position might be a significant advantage in bitter weather…to some. It would be to me.

        Have you ever heard how quiet it is inside old stone? I would jump on it if the general location worked. It’s extraordinary. So are some human brains! Hoping one finds this gem.

        Thanks for the post, Kelly! Happy Holidays to all. Thanks, Kelly, for being the gift in all our inboxes throughout year!

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      • JimHJimH says: 5098 comments
        OHD Supporter

        The road might bother some folks, but I don’t think it’s the major issue. Besides the poor condition of the house, there are 2 nasty power plants right there – a big coal burner and the Three Mile Island nuke plant.

    • KimT says: 74 comments

      Did you happen to see if there was another name for this area at the apparent time of construction for this house? If York Haven was not laid out until 1814 as in this history, there might have been an earlier 18th-c. name: http://www.neychip.com/YorkHaven.html

      • JimHJimH says: 5098 comments
        OHD Supporter

        KimT, this location is outside the Borough of York Haven (but included in the Zip Code), and has been part of Newberry Township since colonial times. The house isn’t close to the ferry, canal or early industrial activity there, so I just don’t know how it fits in. If someone wanted to get serious researching it, they could trace the deeds back, study ancient maps and read the local histories looking for a clue.

        • KimT says: 74 comments

          Thanks, JimH. I don’t know how likely it is, but someone might be able to find archives of the Conewago Canal Co. somewhere…might have maps, surveys, etc. I’m wondering whether what appears to be second door on the front facade was original. From skimming through one of the county histories, it seems even the location of the original Newberry is in some doubt.

  30. says: 20 comments

    I mean no disrespect for those who have expressed not preferring the home’s site. I mean to present a positive aspect which may balance a buyer’s decision. You cannot change the PA climate and you cannot change the home’s position on the lot easily. It is usually easier to adjust ourselves.

    • RobynMeRobynMe says: 111 comments
      1907 George F. Barber
      Hamlet, NC

      Having spent my childhood in upstate NY shoveling a hundred yard, rather steep driveway, I’m with Nick on the advantages of being roadside! Plus, almost no one ever used the front door there. Everyone either went in through the attached garage or from the back porch.

      With those lovely thick walls I doubt you’d hear anything other than semi’s or Harleys going past. Just wish it had a few of the systems working.

  31. Lisa says: 29 comments

    I hope the right people come along to rescue this beautiful home. I love old stone. Best wishes for this historical beauty.

  32. JullesJulles says: 517 comments
    OHD Supporter

    Read all the comments and had to look at exactly where this house was sitting on this busy road for myself. Please, it is a two lane road and the house is at least 10 feet from the road. By the way y’all talked I thought you would be hit by an 18 wheeler stepping out the front door. If this beauty was mine, I would tear up the portico, walkway, and vegetation in the front. Then put a white picket fence by the road with masses of perennials between it and the front door with a small pebble path from the side to the front door. Replace the shutters, get good double pane period match windows, some lace half curtains and you will have one fine looking house on the outside.
    Question though, when installing new mechanicals, are you looking at electrical conduits on the stone walls and trying to do as much of the mechanicals on interior walls as you can? I really dont like the conduits but i hate messing up the stone walls even more. Is there a secret way to hide the work?

    • Joseph says: 422 comments

      Even if traffic isn’t flying by, there will be enough to be annoying. If it doesn’t bother you, you can get a deal on a house. But it will always be a detraction (and speaking from experience, traffic will always get busier and louder). One thing I have learned in life: be vary wary of falling in love with a property and saying “I could live with that issue” (whatever it is). Even is you plan to live in it forever, life happens, and you can wind up with a hard sell. For example, a family with children will probably not put this house at the top of their list.

      As for mechanicals, a lot depends on what is allowed by code. I have had houses where receptacles were mounted in baseboards; you can also have floor outlets. Wall switches perhaps mounted in a pilaster. I was in one PA house that was a museum-quality reproduction. The wall switches were in the chair rails in order to make them inconspicuous.

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  33. lonnie mixell says: 1 comments

    i just bought this house and would love to know the history of it
    if anyone can help me please let me know thankyoun

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    • DianeEG says: 531 comments

      Congratulations lonnie mixell! What a wonderful home and property. Hoping you share pictures and stories of your journey with us.

    • LysaLysa says: 1 comments

      I know this is a litle late, but I lived part of my life in this house, belonged to my father’s family. Could help you out with a little history

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      • I’d love to hear more about this home. I used to live right on front street. I walked & slowly drove by so many times to admire this unique piece of history. I see a lot of construction & renovation going on here now. I’d love to see what the buyers doing with the place too. Please share photos of possible

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