1865 – Barrett Township, PA

Demolished
Added to OHD on 10/17/16 - Last OHD Update: 8/17/18 - 22 Comments

Price

Beds

4

Baths

4

SqFt

5502

Acres

13.41

Now's your chance to rescue a piece of history. Amazing 1865 Victorian Looking for a new owner to restore this gorgeous property to its original beauty. ENORMOUS amount of living space on 2 levels. Convert the outbuilding into a carriage house to add to the charm and usage of this property! Not looking for a restoration project build your custom home on these 13.41 Acres using the existing well and septic on the property.
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Dana Perich, Keller Williams Real Estate      (570) 421-2890
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22 Comments on 1865 – Barrett Township, PA

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  1. Bethany says: 2394 comments
    OHD Supporter

    Escondido, CA

    How intriguing! Interior pics needed, and a vintage photo of the house as it used to look would be particularly great with this one.

  2. Joe says: 537 comments

    I am such a sucker for a wreck. If I weren’t rehabbing two properties now, I would go look at it. I found it on google maps. The front porch and windows were still there when google photographed it. Try to search 4647 Pennsylvania 447, Canadensis, PA 18325. That is what google says is the address when I Clicked on the satellite image. I found it from the agents driving instructions. I am in Baltimore and driving instructions say it is 3 1/2 hours from here.

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  3. CharlestonJohnCharlestonJohn says: 727 comments

    This should work for Streetview…
    http://tinyurl.com/ohdrocks

    This one has all kinds of architectural goodness… Jerkinheads, flared eaves, triple dormers breaking the cornice. Hopefully someone sees potential and falls in love.

  4. JJ says: 23 comments

    Im very new to this site and I’m learning how much I don’t know about architectural styles. I appreciate everyone else’s expertise and wondered if someone could tell me what style this is?

    • Charles B says: 376 comments

      Few of these terms are set in stone–the architects at that point in time were trying to make a pleasing composition from a variety of historical precedents. This place I would call ‘Tyrolean Gothic.’

  5. LisaLouLisaLou says: 112 comments

    Looks much better on the street view without all the boarded up windows. Actually pretty. Wonder what the story is on this unique house? Shame on the realtor for suggesting you could always tear it down and build a new one there!

  6. LottieLottie says: 406 comments

    So sad. Lots of potential here if brought back by a loving hand. Hope someone buys this house and gives it a new life!

  7. Mary B. says: 27 comments

    Here is the satellite view for the house – it is the one with the red roof on the right side of the road … https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1864377,-75.2504425,149m/data=!3m1!1e3

    Too bad there are so many houses right next door (and most likely they boarded up the windows to keep the vandals and kids out) – you can see a foundation on the satellite view, and wonder what it would be. With this old of a house there should have been extensive gardens, but I can’t even see a shadow of where they might have been. The building in the back doesn’t look big enough for a conventional barn, and most likely was originally used for the carriage horses (you can see the hay door on top).

  8. JimHJimH says: 3816 comments
    OHD Supporter

    This house was built for Gilbert E. Palen (1832-1901), a trained physician who chose to move into the hills and build a tannery. He and 2 partners founded and named the nearby village of Canadensis. The house was used as a fishing lodge during the Poconos tourist era in the mid 20th C.
    Perhaps there’s a commercial use for the restored building, as a mansion on a main road wouldn’t be attractive for most high-end buyers. Here’s some history and a photo from about 50 years ago when the place looked a lot better.
    http://blog.historian4hire.net/2013/01/04/gilbert-palen-canadensis/

    Very close to Buck Hill Inn, which is in the process of demolition.
    http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20141229/NEWS/141229512

    • JimHJimH says: 3816 comments
      OHD Supporter

      Gilbert E. Palen’s wife was Elizabeth Gould, whose brother Jay also owned a large house, in a more emphatic Gothic Revival style:
      http://www.lyndhurst.org/

    • Nancy C. Parker says: 2 comments

      If, as the blog article says, the house that Gilbert Palen owned was on the site of what became Pine Knob Inn, then I don’t believe this is that house. As far as I know from family history, our family sold the land for the Pine Knob Inn which was built nearby. Because of the sale of the property, our family was always allowed to swim in the Pine Knob pool which was across the road from the Inn. This house was adjacent to the Pine Knob property.

      • JimHJimH says: 3816 comments
        OHD Supporter

        Hi Nancy,
        I didn’t say this was the Pine Knob Inn, and it wasn’t. There’s a photo of this house on the blog with a caption that says that it was also built for Palen:
        First Palen home built at Canadensis. Gilbert Palen, George Northrop, and his wife, Sarah Gould Northrop together lived in this home until Gilbert built the home that later became the Pine Knob Inn.

  9. Anne Hamilton says: 188 comments

    What a unique property and wonderful opportunity to spend a lot of money! But if you did, you would have a very special place, a great little carriage house, and 13+acres to play around with, plus, it’s in the Poconos!
    Agreed, pics of the inside definitely needed!

  10. John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 4455 comments

    Interesting history for this property and house. Seems vaguely in the Gothic Revival style with the board and batten walls but not a pointed (Gothic) window to be seen anywhere. Therefore, stylistically its something of a hybrid with a little Italianate (bays) and I would have expected a bit of Stick Style millwork here and there. The flaring front gables resemble Graham gables (Mansard roof in cross-section) but there too not very formal. All in all, about what would be expected of a Civil War era farmhouse after 150 years of changes. It’s value as a restoration project would largely depend on the interior of the house. (and barn) Otherwise, the offering is mainly for the 13.41 acres.

  11. Nancy C. Parker says: 2 comments

    This is my great grandparents property. I would have loved for it to stay in the family, but that was not to be. Also would have loved to have been in the house, but it was no longer in the family by the time I was old enough to appreciate it. As long as I can remember, no one lived in the house except some vagrants. My understanding is that it was an absolutely beautiful home in its day.

  12. anonlass says: 8 comments

    Dang if I had 60 thousand I would take her in a minute. Even with not enough photos to get a closer look I feel like she has the potential to be a dreamy house

  13. Christina says: 1 comments

    We own this home and property. We are looking to save this home and are getting the run around for the permit. Looking for help in anyway from advice to phone calls to the township. My understanding is the one township supervisor is holding it up due to having wanted the property. We are submitting our third application and drawings.

    • Gregory K. Hubbard says: 317 comments

      So what has happened? This is a handsome home, as everyone suggested, and well worth saving. Let us know!

    • Mary Brammer says: 27 comments

      Christina, it is so sad that you are having such problems getting permits. I wanted to buy this house badly too, but am now glad that I didn’t try. I have worked with some nasty governmental people, and learned some tricks through the years that might help you along:
      1) KEEP DETAILED WRITTEN RECORDS of who, what, where, when, and why. You made the comment of “My understanding is …” … where did you get that from (WHO said it to you, WHAT date and at what time, WHERE, etc). You MUST keep detailed DAILY notes of all phone calls (including any calls you made – what time, did you leave a message, etc), emails, letters, responses received, etc … don’t forget dates/times, your visits to the property, photos (not just digital, these must be able to be copied quickly) … put notebooks together starting with your purchase offer contract/counter offers/closing papers/etc., then your initial inspections (who did them for you/including business cards), your permit applications starting from day one including all written responses (DO NOT accept anything not in writing – tell the township powers that be that you will not accept verbal info, it must be emailed or hand written if you are in a meeting and try to get them to sign it!), and any phone calls and meetings do need to be recorded (let them know if need be, but keep a 2nd recorder going out of sight in case they refuse to talk to you on the record – you may never need it, but knowing they are being recorded may help keep people more honest).
      2) Every governmental employee will have a boss … you can track that back from the front desk receptionist all the way up the ladder to the President of the United States of America – you need to research who those bosses are and get them into the loop (start with the 1st layer up, then expand if you don’t get anywhere there, be prepared to offer/provide full copies of everything in your notebook – from local/township you could go up to the County office level, then State, then Federal).
      3)You can also hold an “open house” for select people to include the permitting office, their boss(s), your architect or inspection team, your repair team (include utility companies), your local news agencies/tv stations, and extra people to record the event (including sound recordings) … be sure to have your extra people take lots of pictures of those attending, and have a sign in sheet. Send formal written invitations, and an explanation noted on the bottom or back stating the reason (so all parties involved can view the project together, and come to an agreement of how the project should be completed). Don’t forget to offer food/drinks and some kind of hand-out as a reminder of the event.
      4) If you still are getting stonewalled you should get your media involved – first online and including facebook/twitter/etc., then your local new papers, then start expanding until you include the national news stations if you still don’t have any results.
      5) Have you started work on the property at all? Be sure to take “before” pictures of EVERYTHING, then what you are doing … do your research on what can be done without a permit (you can strip old wall paper, strip paint from wood work, use a magnet and pick up nails where the old front deck was, replace single panes of glass that are broken/missing (but not the entire window structure), etc.). There are lots of little on site “busy work” items that will help to keep you occupied and your daily journal notes full.
      *Keep in mind that “He with the most detailed notes is generally believed to be the most trustworthy and will end up winning”, and most importantly “The Squeeky Wheel Gets the Grease” ….. therefore keep extremely detailed notes (don’t forget time and date, and you should always have something noted/someone called/something done every single day including any religious days (just note it as such)). Don’t be afraid to call on your permit every single day if need be.
      Lastly, get your local/regional historic groups in on the fight right away – even go as far as applying for historic designation (doesn’t matter if you get turned down, the township will have to get on board for the federal designation process).
      Good Luck on your fight – please keep us all informed as to how you are doing, and send in lots of pictures of the inside and the work you are getting done inside and out!

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  14. John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 4455 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1889 Eastlake Cottage
    Fort Worth, TX

    A shame, but understandable. Hopefully, some of the better house parts were salvaged and can be repurposed for another project.

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