1888 Queen Anne – Springfield, MA

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80 Cornell St, Springfield, MA 01109

  • $139,900
  • 7 Bed
  • 4 Bath
  • 4266 Sq Ft
  • 0.43 Ac.
Picture yourself in the beautiful McKnight Victorian! It boasts beautiful natural vintage woodwork and a fabulous built in china cabinet. Make the wrap around sunroom your place to relax at the end of the day or sit on the huge wrap around front porch. Great place for entertaining. Plenty of space for a large family or someone who might want to have a home office- the possibilities are endless. The third floor would make a great teen suite or inlaw apartment with it's own entrance. The house has new Pex water pipes, new Delta and American Standard sink and shower faucets, many new windows, new gutters in the front and side of the house, updated electric panel, newer boiler and programmable thermostat. It has a fresh coat of paint inside and out. Priced well below current assessment. Seller is offering $2,000 CLOSING COST ASSISTANCE! Call now to take a look!
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Diane Blanchard, Dot Lortie Realty, a Landmark Co.,
(413) 739-9636

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  1. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11827 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Thanks Anne M. for sharing! And thanks Jim for finding the old photo (link in the links section up top.)

  2. Kimmers,Fort Worth says: 2 comments

    Looks like a lot of house for the money. What beautiful woodwork.

  3. Anne M.Anne M. says: 859 comments
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    1972 raised ranch.
    Hopkinton, MA

    Really is a fabulous house!

  4. Lindsay G says: 567 comments

    Wow what a gorgeous home!

    But what’s wrong with the area? I looked on street view and all the surrounding magnificent victorians are in shambles and the paint is chipping off on a lot of them. There’s even graffiti on a wooden fence. But then the next street over all the houses are well-kept and gorgeous. What happened to this home and the street it’s on?

    • Jarrod says: 1 comments

      That neighborhood is very unique. If you go 2 streets over, the houses sell for around $300k. Springfield definitely has its flaws, but there are still people who live in the Hill Mcknight neighborhood that are trying to preserve what was once known as “The city of homes”. The neighborhood itself has been plagued with low income housing complexes and halfway houses which has brought crime up in the area.

  5. Daughter of GeorgeDaughter of George says: 1016 comments
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    1905 Neoclassic & 1937 Deco

    Beautiful paneling.

  6. Diane says: 557 comments

    Kelly, you must be feeling better to have sifted through all the pictures on the original post yesterday – and made some sense of it. It gave me a headache to see all those closeups and try to figure out where they were on the house plan. This grand old girl might be termed “a beautiful mess” with what it has left and what has been changed. The good news is it appears to have been kept from falling into disrepair with some major upgrades. But the bad news it has so many remodels it would take a lot of work and money to get it back to what it must have been originally. Could that happen in this neighborhood? I hope so. Thanks to a realtor who is still marketing to the home’s beauty and usability as a family home.

  7. Paul W says: 470 comments

    Great house but also an excellent example of how exterior color ,or lack of, in this case, hides so much detail in the house. The roof (with its dark color) is too “heavy looking”. This house needs some rich warmer darker colors to balance out this darker rook. The interior is great except for the home depot bath and kitchen upgrades. Seems well priced

  8. CeH says: 23 comments

    In general, Springfield is a depressed area.

  9. C. says: 37 comments

    I bid on this house last week and again over this past weekend. I flew there two weeks ago and spent four hours going through it with a contractor, two realtors and an electrician. It needs 60k of repairs right off the bat– new roof, all the wiring redone, dry rot cedar shakes replaced in front and back, asbestos pipes in the basement, all the gutters redone, a couple of support beams missing and need to be replaced, all 3 chimneys totally replaced, etc. That doesn’t include things like windows replaced, burst pipe, electric meter currently in the basement needs to be taken out and relocated to outside, cellar storm door entry totally redone [falling apart], etc. The seller refused my offers and basically expects list price, which I found unrealistic for the neighborhood and the condition of the house. A mason I contacted for an estimate did a drive by to go scope out the chimneys.. then told me he wouldn’t want the job because he thought his tools would be stolen. The neighborhood didn’t seem that bad to me, but the city is definitely depressed with high crime.

    The first floor is great, but the “repairs” are really awful. Spray painted orange pieces of thin fiberboard stapled to doorframes as “trim”. Actual concrete slathered over a very sorry looking window in the back, the contractor and I laughed by that point, because it was so ridiculous. There was also a weird ‘mystery box’ at the side of the house that we were SO CURIOUS to see what was in there, it was nailed shut with asphalt tiles slapped on the top. Considering what we’d already seen, I was a little afraid. The plumbing has been redone.. but it’s iffy. They put new pvc pipe in the old one which acted as a sleeve, but it has a giant crack in the old pipe/sleeve. No way to tell if the new pipe goes into the joint unless you pay someone to take it all apart, or wait until it leaks sewage everywhere. I really looked forward to restoring this house over time, I am a huge fan of the 19th century and a re-enactor, but it just became an unworkable situation. There would easily be many more repairs over the next couple of years that would cost thousands. Which I was fine with and really looked forward to.. but not at list price. There are huge ragged pieces of cheap modern carpeting actually glued to the original parquet floor to cover water damage from rain coming in under the door. Glued. To the original wood floor. I would love to buy this house, I had a fun trip and dug the area and small community of people who want the area to be beautiful again, but the price coupled with the repairs was too much. There was a pending sale last fall which did not pan out, so there must have been an inspection and full disclosure of all the issues, and possibly more than what the contractor, electrician and I found so I can’t imagine the seller is unaware. I tried to leave the door open, I’d still be interested, but not at list price.

  10. C. says: 37 comments

    .. forgot to add, also old water damage to some ceilings [slightly bowed areas, nothing recent] and the underside of the porch roof kind of scared me. The contractor said he couldn’t even guess how minor or major what was underneath until he pulled off some boards to see. The porch is solid but really weathered, and I didn’t realize until he pointed it out that the boards are handcut in a fanned, radial arc at an angle with the ends near the house being narrow and flaring slightly as they get to the porch edge. No two are the same width/shape. The house has a later addition, in the back and possibly part of the sun porch– you can see it where there is a big window cut off in the middle of one small room– but I saw an old photo of the house from the 30s? and the addition was there, so it was likely built not long after the house itself. There used to be a carriage house in back [also in an old photo] with a few stalls and a garage of sorts for the carriage, but that is long gone and the original cement? driveway just ends in the back yard after curving around the house. You can see it in the Bing bird’s eye view. Yard is smaller than it looks, but some old stairs go down slightly into a lower area that would make a nice garden, but everything was all dead and full of brush. The attic has been ‘made over’ into a 3rd level with a ‘kitchen’ and bathroom. The bathroom sink has a huge foot-high steel kitchen faucet that I think has a sprayer built in. Very strange. The ‘kitchen’ is a bunch of rickety old laminate cabinets, a tiny little sink and what looks like peel and stick black fake marble linoleum tiles. Again, “repairs”. The second and third floors have been fairly whitewashed [with the fiberboard trim stapled here and there] with the occasional cheap door that has a handle put on upside down or backwards. The foundation is solid, but needs to be repointed and resealed. Basement was cement under dirt, a bit damp but considering the gutters, they’re probably dumping water back onto the house. The half windows in the dining room are actually floating transoms. The middle one has hinges in the back, which was amazing to discover, I bet that in the summer the window was hooked up to let air circulate. The other original multicolored one high over the door had ugly white paint slopped all over the back of it. Some of the white paint on the ceiling looked like someone fingerpainted it and smudged all over the edge of the original wood trim. There is a servant’s stairway to the second floor that was walled over by extending the floor on the second level and turning it into a closet, then downstairs they just screwed the door shut.

    I was itching to start undoing the remodeling, but unfortunately it looks like that won’t happen. Really sad, I’ve been obsessed with this house for months. The McKnight neighborhood [300 square acres] was the first planned community in the US, and Springfield used to be the richest city. The whole neighborhood is registered, and there is a Historic Committee that must approve any alterations or repairs to the houses. Guidelines are very specific, but not terrible, they just try to preserve the houses. I drove around, some really great 19th century behemoths of all shapes and sizes, some with really fun paint jobs.

    • Ed Ferris says: 301 comments

      Thanks for the report. I was going to fly out to Springfield three months ago to look at this house and several others (129 Westminster, for one), but bought a house in Richmond, Indiana, instead. I was wondering why 80 Cornell had been on Zillow for a year.

      • C. says: 37 comments

        Which house was it in Richmond? I spotted a GORGEOUS knock your eyes out Italianate for 115 which I think was in Richmond? But could never find the listing again, wondered if it had gone off the market.

        • Ed Ferris says: 301 comments

          The Fielding Gaar house, 206 N. 15th St. A brick Italianate mansion which needs a roof, but is well worth the $120K I paid for it. Golden oak, Anaglypta, newel statuette of Mercury holding a light bulb, seven fireplaces, a square grand piano — and Richmond isn’t a bad town, either.

          • C. says: 37 comments

            That’s the one!!!! Glad it went to someone who appreciates it, the interior pics were gorgeous. I was looking at Richmond for a bit, the music history was interesting. Please post a link if you do any sort of blog, I’d love to see it.

  11. C. says: 37 comments

    I put in my last bid this morning, more for me so I don’t have regrets later. I also saw 47 Dartmouth while I was there, figured I’d look at another while I was in town. Crammed with stuff and a little smaller than 80 Cornell, but a nice place that just needs a little love. The listing photos make it look more unattractive than it actually is, the front rooms are huge and the repro wallpaper while ugly in pics, is actually quite nice in person. Heard the roof was newer, has a nice little butler pantry thing with wood, cozy kitchen. The large carriage house in back is still there and seems in somewhat decent shape. Not bad, but it’s *right* on a very busy street, which is a turnoff for me. Many other pretty homes surrounding it on that street, was sunny and pleasant. Decent price and some lovely design touches, just not for me.

    • Anne M. says: 859 comments

      Keep us posted! BTW – 47 Dartmouth is lovely!

      • C. says: 37 comments

        They turned down my final offer, they absolutely refuse to go under $135k because of all the money they spent on their ‘improvements’, providing a long list of things that didn’t seem accurate. So, really disappointing that a diamond in the rough is being run into the dirt by house flippers. They’ve already tried to split the house in two for ‘multifamily’ by plastering over the doorway to the second story and slapping a really cheap door on it.

        • Paul W says: 470 comments

          It will likely still be for sale in 6 months, anyone buying it will have home inspection and inspectors will spot the problems you did. Once they have a few more months of more expenses and no sales they will get the picture that ‘flipping’ isn’t as easy as the TV shows make it look.

        • gemma says: 12 comments

          If you are looking for something in Springfield, try the historic Forest Park area that has Merengo park. Used to live in a big old house there and they have blocked off one end of each street to prevent cars from zooming through. Great old houses in a quiet area right near the highway.

  12. John says: 77 comments

    https://picasaweb.google.com/103484318359381703729
    This link is a great window to Springfield’s architecture- just about every street and building photographed in about 1941

  13. There seems to be several nice Victorians for sale in this city. If I was looking to buy here I would definitely be looking at my other options, especially if this one is as bad as some say. I think though this house has a lot to offer. Lovely Interior. Flooring is beautiful. Great design with turret and those columns outside are to die for! I have never been to a house where there is not something to do and repair and yes sometimes extensive. It is a decision one must make. How much work do you want to do? How much money do you want to spend? We are looking to probably move in the next 5 or so years for our retirement. I have been following old house dreams so when we do we will be prepared. The city, location, home, style of home, repairs, weather conditions are all factors that will be going into the decision process when we finally decide what to do. Its funny what I thought when I first started looking on here and across the country my ideas have changed drastically of what I want and can do. Some have said how could I leave Southern California when I already own a Victorian and be set in the so called perfect climate and location. I ask myself that all the time but I have lived here many years and it is time for a change and of course hopefully a bigger Victorian and more glorious then this one. I have to personally thank Kelly for giving us this site. It is a great educational tool and I have spent many mornings with coffee in hand looking and reading. I am glad you are doing better. Thanks Again!

  14. MonicaG says: 166 comments

    So sorry C. This beauty deserves a proper restoration. Hope you end up with it in the end and really bring it back to life. Best.

  15. John Shiflet says: 5471 comments

    The McKnight Historic District in Springfield has long had my attention with its wealth of fine Victorian homes. This one does not disappoint with its fine period details. As others have noted, its not a town without problems but there’s a core of dedicated preservationists trying to save its architectural legacy for the future. One house, formerly used as a Hispanic community center, remains one of the most impressive examples of the short-lived early 1880’s Aesthetic Movement style blended with Queen Anne details: http://cicilycorbett.blogspot.com/2006/12/la-casa-hispana.html In streetview, you can see pebble-dash work (stucco artistically combined with embedded glass pieces and rocks) Terra Cotta panels with a wise Owl and a large Sunflower panel. (an icon of the Aesthetic Movement) I hope to be able to see this unique house someday because of its rarity. (unless its already demolished) A few months ago, I laboriously scanned and tweaked for clarity an 1895 promotional book about Springfield and posted the entire book as a Flickr album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11236515@N05/albums/72157654835761883 It provides an idea of how Springfield looked in 1895. I sincerely hope things will improve in this historic western Massachusetts city.

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