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1895 Queen Anne – Carrolltown, PA (George F. Barber)

SOLD / Archived From 2015
Added to OHD on 10/22/15 - Last OHD Update: 2/14/18 - 32 Comments
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  • $99,900
  • 5 Beds
  • 2 Bath
  • 0.41 Ac.
Carrolltown- 1895 Grand historic 5 BR home with original wood trim, doors, pocket doors & stained glass windows. New heat, radiators & new floor coverings. Large corner lot with in-ground pool. Potential rental income from the 2 BR apt above the 2 car garage.
Sold By
Scott Strayer, CENTURY 21 Strayer And Associates      814-472-4761
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32 Comments on 1895 Queen Anne – Carrolltown, PA (George F. Barber)

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  1. RossRoss says: 2384 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
    Emporia, KS

    It is painful looking at what was done to the exterior. Oh my!

    My pain eased when I stepped inside.

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    • AvatarThomas P Ganley says: 1 comments

      This house on West Carroll Street in Carrolltown PA was my great-great-grandfather’s house Demetrius A. Luther my grandmother was Cecilia Luther. My great-great-grandfather was the mayor of Carrolltown and also had a hardware store on West Carroll he was a well-known man the died in 1945 and is buried in the cemetery behind St. Benedict’s Church on Main. I have a lot of pictures from way back then if anyone would love to contact me my numbers 412 673-2947 thank you my name is Thomas Ganley in McKeesport Pennsylvania Cecilia Luther married Frank Mulligan in Crabtree Pennsylvania on April 23rd 1924 after the marriage they moved to Mckeesport PA Frank and Cecilia Mulligan had three children Rosemarie Thomas and James Rosemarie married Charles Ganley

  2. AvatarPaul Price says: 202 comments

    I agree, Ross! The inside is wonderful. I love egg and dart. What is up with that exterior? The stucco version of Z brick?

  3. AvatarEyesOnYou1959 says: 267 comments

    I totally agree, Ross! But I could definitely see myself living in this
    fine old home. I absolutely love the woodwork, but it would be so nice
    to see more pics of the inside and the apartment above the garage.

  4. AvatarMatt Ziehnert says: 87 comments

    ahem…looks like it was/is a G. Barber design 😉

  5. JimHJimH says: 4115 comments
    OHD Supporter

    There’s an old photo of this place in Northern Cambria of the Images of America series. I can’t view it though maybe it would allow someone to accurately restore the exterior.
    The house was built by contractor Demetrius Augustine Luther (1855-1924) for his own use, after buying and demolishing the old home of attorney T.R. Scanlan. The first private telephone in Carrolltown was installed here.
    Luther was part of a large family descended from a Hessian soldier who deserted during the Revolution and settled here. D.A.’s older cousin of the same name was the longtime Sheriff of Cambria County.
    D.A. and his wife Josephine were devout Catholics and they had 9 children here: Adelaide, Helena, Paul, Hilda, Colette, Cecelia, Wilfred, Marcelline and Mary. He purchased a hardware store in town which stayed in the family for many years, and Josephine lived out her days in this home with her 2 unmarried daughters.

  6. AvatarBetsy says: 167 comments

    What a staircase ! The change to the exterior is shocking. And all the more shocking ( to me ) is that while they altered the exterior in such an extreme manner, they left the majority of the interior wood work alone !

  7. Chris DiMatteiChris DiMattei says: 261 comments

    If someone is motivated enough, the exterior can be restored. I maintain the opinion that, as long as the house is still standing, it can always be restored. I hope someone does just that, to this, once grand, George Barber designed home. By the way, if anyone is interested in purchasing this home and restoring the exterior, I have recorded 17 other examples of this particular Barber design, so there are lots of examples out there, to use as references for a restoration. I am all too happy to share this info with preservation minded homeowners.

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    • AvatarDucky says: 4 comments

      We are currently under contract for this home and depending on the condition of the former exterior would like to remove the stucco. I would love any examples that you could send to recreate the exterior of the house (anything from anyone would be great) I’m not saying its gonna be done quickly but, I would love to recreate the porches and some/all of the original details and remove the ugly tudor exterior. I really won’t know until we move in and do a full assessment of the entire home to see what can be done. There are additions added to the back, doors blocked etc. However, as mentioned in other post most all of the woodwork is still present and this is why we fell in love with it (along with a perfect split for both my wife and I commutes and a good school for the kids). I can take and post pictures and would enjoy keeping everyone updated. We are excited to be getting it.

      • Kelly, OHD adminKelly, OHD admin says: 10079 comments
        Admin

        1901 Folk Victorian
        Chestatee, GA

        That is exciting news! I hope you are able to remove the stucco! We all would love to follow your progress! 🙂

      • RossRoss says: 2384 comments

        Thrilling news, Ducky!

        A suggestion?

        I would recommend first removing the aluminum siding on the front gable and front dormer. This should not be too difficult; scaffolding will help enormously.

        Under, you will find, hopefully, a wealth of original material, and even, it is hoped, samples of the original colors (under later paint) which would be an invaluable guide if you decide to go with a period-correct color scheme (highly recommended!).

        In taking off the stucco, I would start small, and just do one area. IF you can get the stucco off, and IF what you find under is encouraging, I would focus on the main facade only.

        It is not clear in the archival image what the original walls are. Brick? With stone quoins?

        • AvatarDucky says: 4 comments

          Ross,

          I agree yes I envisioned starting at the top and working down because there are original corbals and stained glass around the current gables and yes scaffolding is probably the way to go and I have built it before out of scrap lumber not pretty but functional. Not sure exactly what the term is for the roof “COMB” “CAP” but where these wood or cast iron or ???? And can these be found ? I suppose that they could be reproduced with either a composite wood decking material or likewise and only the people reading this would ever know any different. When we get into the home I’m gonna start by asking some of the older neighbors if they have any photos of the house to try to recreate what I can. I also hope I can get ahold of some old plans of the house and hope they have plans of any of the Victorian style details and or the porch. First step is getting everything in order inside. The kitchen is dated late 60’s early 70’s and pretty akward layout so we want a more tradtional style. I appears that when the present owner bought the home in 68 it underwent the major changes that make everyone cringe. Kitchen exterior etc. I’m hoping that the stucco was attached with wire mesh and not straight to the brick. If the stucco is straight to the brick I can envision creating a mess to the exterior lossing the faces of the brick and actually destroying them. It just depends if they are “soft” brick or not. First thing will be peeling back one of the brown boards and see indeed what it is and what I’m dealing with. Everyone stay tuned in a couple months for the reveal. I’ll post some pictures. Thanks

          • MikeEMikeE says: 181 comments
            1886 Queen Anne Victorian

            Ducky, one place to check is at your local library and/or historical society. In the early 1900s, many towns published histories featuring pictures and bios of local prominent citizens, including pics of their homes. If you find one, search cover to cover because many times they would include pages of unidentified photos of the town, your home might be there. Good luck and keep us posted!

      • Christopher DiMatteiChristopher DiMattei says: 261 comments

        Ducky, congrats on the purchase of this grand home. I am excited by the prospect of your restoring this gem. I am all too happy to help in any way I can. Yes, I have lots of other examples of this particular design that I will share with you. I also have thousands of photos of Barber designed homes that can serve as guides toward a restoration. Please email me directly at crdimattei@gmail.com, so we can continue this conversation and share additional info. Once again, congrats and best of luck in your future endeavors.

  8. Kelly, OHD adminKelly, OHD admin says: 10079 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Thanks Chris!

    I was doing something on Pinterest and happened to see another of this same house design in Alabama. link

  9. AvatarCason says: 30 comments

    Too bad that at some point somebody confused Queen Ann with do it yourself Tudor Revival. The two styles are at war with each other. Lesson there. When changing styles don’t do it on the cheap. Better yet, don’t do it.

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  10. AvatarDucky says: 4 comments

    So it’s been a while since my last post but an update for everyone still interested we now own the house and are doing some much needed painting and such inside. Some information that I have learned at closing and beyond was that the woman that owned the house lives across the street from the house with her son that was raised there. She and her husband purchased the house I believe in 1968. She said she was never fond of the stucco herself and was more her husband’s idea. The brick I believe only needs repointed so the potential Is there to remove the stucco but that’s definitely in the future. The kitchen is small and dated 60-70’s and an odd layout. We plan on painting and using the current kitchen for the time being. The bedrooms have drop ceiling and paneling and after removing them I understand why. They will need re-plastered so that means I’m gonna be busy doing drywall. I have found some of the original doors and trim in the attic and garage so that was a bonus. Under some aluminum siding (Thats right aluminum siding) in the one beroom is original paint scheme its kinda cool one too. How do I upload pictures to show everyone if anyone can help. On a positive side note people in the neighborhood have all been very friendly.

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