1792 – Mount Jackson, VA

Details below are from July 2014, sold status has not been verified.
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Added to OHD on 7/10/14   -   Last OHD Update: 4/12/20   -   19 Comments
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5741 5741 Old Valley Pike, Mount Jackson, VA 22842

  • $125,000
  • 4 Bed
  • 1 Bath
  • 2000 Sq Ft
  • 1.43 Ac.
"Locust Grove" at Rudes Hill, known as Stonewall Jacksons hdqtrs in April 1862, however this home dates back to 1792 per county records. Awaiting Restoration, Log & frame w/some modifications over the years. Beautiful winding staircase, wood floors, walkup attic, 1.4 ac w/2 outbldgs. Sold "as is". Newer 4 bdrm septic. Located just off I-81, on VA Scenic Byway, Shenandoah River Civil War Trls
Contact Information
Anita Rhodes, Johnston and Rhodes Real Estate,
(540) 459-9650

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19 Comments on 1792 – Mount Jackson, VA

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  1. Ross says: 2411 comments

    Wow. This house is a LOT more elegant inside than the exterior would suggest.

    A total surprise.

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  2. BethanyBethany says: 3431 comments
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    1983 White elephant
    Escondido, CA

    The outside pictures are so desolate; too bad they couldn’t have waited for spring, or even for a nice dusting of snow. This place is amazing though; I usually go for the Victorians, but this place has such lovely simple bones and such an amazing history.

  3. Katie says: 7 comments

    *What* is under the paint in that fireplace insert…makes my heart beat faster.

    • Stephanie says: 2 comments

      I thought the same thing about the door midway up the staircase. I’d love to buy the house just to see what’s behind that door.

      • RosewaterRosewater says: 6717 comments
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        1875 Italianate cottage
        Noblesville, IN

        That door / panel is probably used as access to the attic of the kitchen el. If you look at the images of the historic photos below, you’ll see that the side el was three times it’s current size in the past. Having seen this configuration before, and considering the build date, and the location; my guess is that the door was originally used by the house slaves to access their quarters above the attached kitchen. There would likely have been a narrow, steep stairway to the space from the service rooms below, and the door on the landing was there to provide quick access for the slaves to the family upstairs.. ALSO – I use the term “slaves” because that is what they were. It bugs me when Southern agents refer to these spaces as “servant’s areas”. They weren’t servants; they were slaves.. Sorry, but place gives me the shivers. Bad juju…

        • Jim says: 5104 comments

          Jeff, I agree with what you’ve said. I hadn’t noticed that the slope of the lower roof used to be greater which gave more height to the attic space, so a full 2nd story isn’t necessary. As it is now, the roof peak is in the middle of the door.

          Also agree on slave terminology, except legally they weren’t slaves after 1863 they were servants, and conditions stayed about the same for a long time. I posted this link on another plantation house – a letter from a freed slave to his former owner:
          http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/01/to-my-old-master.html

  4. Laurie says: 1705 comments

    Once this was a very attractive house. Very nice woodwork & the wide old floorboards were sawn from wonderful large trees. Interesting history to the place. I’m curious about the door on the landing where the stairs turn — no steps into whatever that is — a closet? Whoever put that horrible exterior onto it should be strung up!

    Unfortunately this place has been neglected for a very long time. It’s a “can of worms” house — I’d fear that anything you did would uncover 6 more urgent problems. Looks to me like it may need to be diagrammed, numbered, taken down to the rafters & rebuilt. If anyone were willing to do that. It’s in a peaceful place among farms & a few suburban-type houses but close enough to the interstate that traffic would probably always be audible. How sad to see a really good old farmhouse treated so badly.

  5. I never once expected that elegant, well-proportioned interior after looking at the interior pictures! I see very little that has been messed with, and only minor water damage that is easily dealt with, and a metal roof that can likely be repaired as well. On the outside, as awful as it looks, the insulbrick type siding can actually do a nice job of preserving the original clapboards (which I see peeking out in one of the photos). I suspect the greatest difficulty in a house of this age is navigating the varied repairs that having a house built with logs, post and beam and balloon framing will require if any structural work needs to be done.

  6. Jim says: 5104 comments

    After staring at the photos for awhile and sketching it out, there’s nothing behind the door on the stair – it’s the outside wall of the house on the right. The addition on the right must have had a 2nd story at one point with a lower floor level, and the door led to a room there, possibly servants quarters.

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11876 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Interesting. Now that I look at it, I don’t even see a door knob. Could there have been a window there once, maybe they only had a door to cover it up?

      • Jim says: 5104 comments

        Kelly, the sill of the door looks very close to the height of the ceiling joists on the addition. I betcha there’s still a floor sitting on them above the kitchen, though I wouldn’t want to spend a lot of time up there.

    • Joseph says: 421 comments

      If you look at the old picture, it appears that ell has been either reduced in length and roofline (or replaced entirely). Door may have been into attic of ell which would have been used for storage, so awkwardness of access would not have been as much of an issue if used as a living space.

      We have a house of this period where the ell was removed and the remains of a similar awkward door configuration remain.

  7. Ross says: 2411 comments

    I would be prone to agree with Kelly, and suspect that the door was once a window.

    The addition blocked the window, so they infilled the opening with a paneled door. Or so I guess.

    If it WAS originally a door, the VERY high first step seems odd to the extreme.

  8. Jim says: 5104 comments

    It wouldn’t make sense to me to hang a door properly on hinges and trim it out nicely if simple plaster would have covered a window opening. The door and trim match the older material in the house. A second story over the kitchen also would explain why there isn’t a window on that side. There could have been a narrow step or two there originally. House servants/slaves often stayed in attics; I think that’s the spot. It would have allowed them to go from outside to their quarters without going into the other rooms of the house. Odd yes, but so is the house – the irregular facades suggest it was built in at least four stages.

  9. MW says: 902 comments

    It does look like 1 step away from the grave from the outside, especially that backside which looks potentially very troublesome (are those logs or just wide siding boards under there?). But the interior looks quite surprisingly more inspiring and interesting.

    I assume this place has been empty for a very long time and that furniture is just put in for photo staging. But, it kind of just looks creepy instead. I can’t imagine anyone living in that as is, short of squatters or something.

    This is a very serious project for someone, but looks like it might be worth saving. Unless the location is especially attractive, the price seems a bit high though. Is only is 1.4 acres, so isn’t just an cool old house on a lot of land. The street view looks pretty typical for that area and I don’t think real estate is particularly expensive around there in general. In fact, I’d think it would be on the pretty cheap end of things as far as that goes. I’m not trying to sound negative on the house or listing, just trying to figure it out. If I had to guess, and in all honesty, $25K might seem like a more realistic price for that instead of $125K. I went to VA Tech in Blacksburg not far from there back in the 80’s and drove by there many times back and forth to my family in MD. So, I do know a little something about the area, or use to anyway.

    It would be nice for someone to restore it though. Looks to have some surprising potential if can be had for a price that would reasonably allow the work and $’s needed to be put into it.

    • Robt. W.Robt. W. says: 358 comments

      Not sure that I agree that the price is so wildly ambitious $25,000 buys nothing at all in that part of the Shenandoah Valley — and the property is some 164-miles away from Blacksburg.

      It’s a curious house, and it would be interesting to see how the place would look with a proper restoration of the exterior. The elevations have odd proportions and oddly placed and under-scaled windows. Inside, however, the windows don’t look so tiny and ill-placed, so perhaps the dichotomy between exterior and interior turns heavily on the distraction of the asphalt shingle cladding.

      Clearly the place needs needs substantial work, though I’m not sure that the expenditure needs to be that great. New exterior weatherboard, less obtrusive storm windows, reconsidering some of the irregular later fenestration; kitchen; baths; mechanicals; repairs and repainting… a fair amount of work, but nothing difficult or involved, and some really fine interiors.

      • Joseph says: 421 comments

        Residing, and rebuilding the ell (or at least putting a new attic/roof with more appropriate pitch would do a lot. Gravel drive, line with some new trees and eliminate the shrubs in front of house. I think you would have a great weekend getaway from the DC area. Biggest question is “would you want a weekend getaway in this area”? If answer is yes, you could probably buy this for a lot less than asking.

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