Coatesville, PA

Added to OHD on 5/27/20   -   Last OHD Update: 7/17/20   -   55 Comments
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1331 Valley Rd, Coatesville, PA 19320

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  • $79,900
  • 3 Bed
  • 1 Bath
  • 3410 Sq Ft
  • 0.95 Ac.
Own of piece of Chester County history with this large, turn of the century farmhouse on just under an acre in Valley Township. This stone/ masonry home features a front full length covered porch, rear patio, 2 story outbuilding, and highly landscaped yard. Inside the home features all large rooms including eat in kitchen with exposed stone wall and wood burning stove, breakfast room, formal living room, formal dining room, family room and main floor laundry. The 2nd floor has 5 bedrooms and full hall bath. There is a walk up, floored, attic. This home is in need of updating throughout and is sold in AS-IS condition.
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Peter McGuinn, Re/Max - Main Line
855-766-3677
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  1. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12143 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    So this is way not 1900. Anyone want to take a guess?

    I’ll throw in pre-1830’s. (Honestly, I’m not great at determining build dates for homes this old.)

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    • JullesJulles says: 526 comments
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      I was thinking the exact same thing. I would say no later than 1840.

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    • Eric Unhinged says: 1046 comments

      You’re correct. More photos would help, but from what I can see I think it’s c. 1820 (with lots of updates over the years).

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      • Eric Unhinged says: 1046 comments

        Looking again this morning… I think it’s older than 1820. Possibly late 18th century. Wish there were more/better photos with this house… it’s really interesting.

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    • kmmoorekmmoore says: 418 comments
      Weatherford , TX

      Ha! I knew it! I am obsessed with this website and I feel like I’m learning so much. I read the description and then thought, this looks a lot earlier than 1900. I’m not ready to assess the age range yet, but I’m getting there! Thank you to everyone who contributes to these comments.

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    • Beth says: 235 comments

      First thing I thought too – not later than 1840 would be my guess, but I don’t have the knowledge most of the people on this site do!

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  2. Darrin Engel says: 6 comments

    I see some c. 1900 radiators and woodwork but other than I see a Federal period house with an incredible amount of original detail still there.

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  3. badkitty says: 10 comments

    late 1700’s I would guess.

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  4. CharlestonJohn says: 1093 comments

    I’ll throw 1827 out there. What we can see indicates first half of the 19th century as an initial build date. Framing as indicated by wall thicknesses; the size, type and location of windows; chimney positions; floor board width; ceiling height; and a few remaining bits of wood elements made me think it’s in the Federal period. I looked for construction history, and came up with very little for Westwood (the actual area it’s in). JimH, we need you buddy.

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    • Eric Unhinged says: 1046 comments

      Definitely Federal period. In addition to the features you point out, the way the interior windows are finished is another clue to the age of the house. This house has sharp, square corners at window recesses. Many later houses in this area had rounded corners which allowed for more light to get into the room. The 6/6 windows on the second story with 9/9 windows on the first is also a good, but not definitive, clue suggesting late 18th century.

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  5. Brendan says: 84 comments

    I was wondering maybe 1800 and the date in the description is just a typo.

  6. Joseph Griffin says: 33 comments

    I’m guessing 1785.

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  7. Anne Hamilton says: 202 comments

    my guess, 1780’s-1810

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  8. Jamie K says: 18 comments

    I could totally see this house dating back to the late 1700s-early 1800s. The simplicity of this home.. it’s kind of “Quaker-ish”. Definitely old because it looks so small, and not sf wise. Since people were so much smaller back then, everything seems so little..the staircase, doorways, hallway, ceilings, and even the fireplaces.. This is a different version of a “Tiny House”.

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  9. oli says: 56 comments

    I grew up in 1810 Farmhouse and this house feels way older than that to me. I’m gonna throw out 1790! How could anyone think 1900???!! And how could no one in that listing agency catch it?

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  10. says: 1 comments

    My house is for sale. It was built in the 1740’s but the MLS here only lets the realtor enter 1800 as the (oldest) date built.

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  11. Beth says: 235 comments

    Guessing the build date is the Old House Dreams version of The Price Is Right! Does the closest guess win the property? πŸ™‚

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  12. JJ says: 93 comments

    I’m with you, kmmoore. Based on what I’ve learned from the incredibly knowledgeable people on this site, I immediately thought this house was mid to late 1700’s. It has a Colonial type vibe, I guess. Simplicity, beauty and comfort. Thank you to everyone here who takes the time to share their knowledge. I have always thought I loved “Victorian” houses, but now I know I really love the Queen Anne style by George Barber. I feel so smart! ?

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  13. ddbacker says: 486 comments

    Hearth is a dead ringer for ca. 1800, unless it is a reproduction which is very unlikely.

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  14. natira121natira121 says: 730 comments
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    1877 Vernacular
    Columbia River Gorge, WA

    Until one of our resident research gurus comes up with a date, I’m game for guessing. I’m gonna say 1785-1890. And I really like the acorn newel post!

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  15. Zilla says: 40 comments

    The house was advertised in a Sheriff’s sale in 2013 http://www.chesco.org/DocumentCenter/View/13240 page 17 for a debt of $277,000 and in a bancruptsy in 2014 http://www.paeb.uscourts.gov/sites/paeb/files/elf073114.pdf

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  16. JimHJimH says: 5265 comments
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    Robert Shannon Scott (1825-1905) moved here in the 1850’s and farmed 82 acres. Scott and his wife (and 1st cousin) Mary Jane Young raised 5 children here. Although this Scott didn’t grow up here, the family had been at this location for well over 100 years before he moved in.
    The family pioneer was a John Scott (1706-1777) from Kent in England, about which was written:
    β€œHe emigrated to America circa 1720, and settled at Westwood, PA on 226 acres. He owned large tracts of land a short distance west of the present city of Coatesville, PA. The large old stone house where John Scott and his grandson, John Scott, Jr., lived and died, still stands, a silent memorial and witness of the past. His farm is located on Valley Road, between Coatesville and Pomeroy, on the north side of the road in Westwood. The house still stands in 1997 and is being restored by its present owners.”
    I don’t know if this is the ancient house of the Scott family or if it’s truly ancient but it’s an intriguing possibility.
    https://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=128134372
    http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/14073/Valley/Chester+County+1873/Pennsylvania/

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  17. Julles says: 526 comments

    So 1850 or 1750…possibly?

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  18. BrendaInWI says: 73 comments

    Being a Pennsylvanian, I’d say late 1700s was the start of this home.

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  19. Julles says: 526 comments

    The fireplace just throws a person, doesn’t it. Jim, I was just hoping that you would pull your magical “This house was built on Oct of 1798 by…” lol!

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  20. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12143 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    New agent, new photos! πŸ™‚

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  21. Turn of the century ? 18th century maybe !!

  22. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 12143 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Price dropped, moved to the front page for another look. Comments above may be older (and may reference the old listing description so pay attention to the comment date!)

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  23. Lancaster JohnLancaster John says: 885 comments
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    1875 Victorian Farmhouse
    Lancaster, PA, PA

    So long as the dating game continues, this will shed a bit of light: In this part of Pennsylvania where old homes are pretty common, the tax assessors will put “1900” as the build date in the tax records when they can see that a house is old but they have no accurate information as to when it was built. Something like 9999 would be more useful as a “date unknown” field but this is what they do. Then, when agents list a house, they usually go off the tax records for build dates. So I’m quite sure that’s how 1900 ended up on this listing…While I’m here I’ll throw in my guess that part of this house is very very early (maybe even pre-1750) as this area was settled by Quakers and Pennsylvania Germans (“Dutch”) as early as the circa 1710’s. Two branches of my family settled a bit west of here near Elverson, PA and Durlach, PA in the late 1720s. Chester County,where this house is located, being closer to Philadelphia, would have been settled earlier. I’m thinking the fireplace area might be a remnant of a very old pioneer structure which had later additions as the family gained prosperity.

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  24. JLL12JLL12 says: 8 comments
    1910 Foursquare
    PA

    Not too long ago I visited the Daniel Boone homestead in Birdsboro, PA. This home has features that are very similar to that structure- and the Boone’s homestead was built around 1740. Love the home!!

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  25. troyintroyin says: 1 comments

    I was thinking, wow why is this place so cheap I could afford that. maybe I will drive over and check it out this week. Then I saw the taxes $6083. per year or $507 per month, I can afford the house but not the taxes πŸ™

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    • So, here’s a question: If one did buy it and restore it-fix it up real nice-would they re-assess it and raise the taxes?

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    • PuristaPurista says: 177 comments

      Zillow estimates taxes at full price @ $104/mo, or $1,248/yr based on county rates. To be able to get a stout, very handsome, large 18th-century house that is a long way from falling down for anything like this price is amazing.

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      • Hey all!

        Im sitting here so intrigued and thanking each and everyone one of you for the information shared.

        I just signed a contract on this magical gem.

        • 59classic59classic says: 67 comments
          Hot Springs, SD

          Congrats! I’m jealous!

        • PuristaPurista says: 177 comments

          Congratulations, Dove. Perhaps we don’t need to mention this, but presuming you close on it, please bear in mind the larger and more important contract you have signed with the ancestors who lived there, with our culture, and with all those who might learn from the house in the future.

          That contract becomes critically important at a time when, thanks to This Old House, etc., and the real-estate boom of the early 2000s, I would guess that 95 percent of many similar houses, meaning once very important pieces of our cultural patrimony with much to teach us about the past, have been all but destroyed from a historical point of view, with early or original material ripped out by the dumpster-load to create that ”blend of old and new.” Original interior walls are removed to ”open up the floor plan,” skylights are punched through roofs, original plaster is ripped off to expose stone or beams never meant by the builders to be seen, original fireplace surrounds are removed, chimneys are torn out, floors are pulled up and replaced, new windows are punched through exterior walls. And then all too often everything is painted bright white like a chic Hamptons home. The house is left soulless and meaningless as a historical artifact.

          It’s important to remember that we who love old houses are humble in our approach, even if we do come to ”own” one. Yes, that gives us the legal right to destroy its architectural and archaeological value but it doesn’t remove our responsibility not to do so.

          If buyers of such homes aren’t used to thinking that way, I like to ask them to pretend the French government legally deeds them the Mona Lisa. After a week looking at Lisa they decide they don’t like her mouth, hair, and clothes. Would they modify these features to taste? Of course not. Because even though they’re now the legal owners and could if they wanted to, they know Lisa has value far beyond themselves, value that includes all people present and future who, in a cultural sense, have a ”right” to see Lisa as Leo intended. Sure that analogy is a bit extreme, but the same principles are at play with an old house like this and for the same reasons.

          So if you work on the house and are not sure whether a particular feature is early or original, or a particular operation will harm the house’s cultural value, call your state historic preservation office and have them send an architectural historian, or if they won’t do that, give you a list of architectural historians. It’s a one-way street. Once it’s torn out and in the landfill, there’s no going back. With so many such houses already hugely compromised, if you keep yours as original as possible, yours will soon enough become the rare and valuable one both culturally and monetarily.

          Enjoy it!

          • Purista,
            I Honestly could not agree with you more! The reason we wanted the home was because we love it exactly as it is. The only thing we plan to do is getting back to being a safe, habitable home.
            I hate to see old buildings destroyed. I see a lot of that where we live now. Philadelphia has so much of its history stripped away by quick contractor flips.
            The flooring on the first floor appears to be much later. We plan on taking it out down to the original wood and refinishing them. Aside from having new electrical, plumbing, ect. I want to preserve as much of the history as I possibly can.

            Thank you for the architectural historian tip! Thats so helpful. I cant wait to get in there!

  26. 59classic59classic says: 67 comments
    Hot Springs, SD

    Another great house!

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  27. CarebearCarebear says: 1184 comments
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    I can’t believe this house hasn’t sold yet. I’d love to get ahold of it! So much you could do, restoration wise. Of course, the kitchen has to go. I’d love to see this house restored to the late eighteenth century-well, a lookalike to the 1790’s or so! I need my hot and cold running water! Doe anyone know the purpose or date of the two story little house? A studio added much much later, maybe?

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  28. PuristaPurista says: 177 comments

    I’m guessing 1780-90. From the outside I would have guessed earlier, but the ceiling joists they’ve exposed, tall and thin, feel late. If any of the six-panel interior doors we see are original, they, too, push the date later into the 18th century. If I were there, I’d be looking at original trim and floorboards for nails. Depending on locality, nail heads switched from fat, irregular, and hand-wrought to machine-stamped rectangular between 1790 and 1805. I would guess there are hand-wrought nails in this house.

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  29. I wish I could see the stairway, that would help. Love the out building!

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  30. JeffJeff says: 134 comments
    1876 Rural Victorian
    OR

    Turn of the 19th century, more likely

  31. RavennaGRLRavennaGRL says: 74 comments
    OH

    Coatesville has a long history dating back before the American Revolution. Pennsylvania was admitted to the Union in 1787. The Lancaster Turnpike was the first toll road in America in 1795. There are two stone vernacular farmhouses in the area that have survived circa 1750. Perhaps this house was built during this time to be added onto in later years.

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  32. donnag0919donnag0919 says: 15 comments
    1920 4x4
    Iowa City, IA

    I was born not so far from here in Pottstown, and if I were younger (and richer) I would love to bring this house back to life. Even though it needs major work in updating things like plumbing and heating, the house still holds tremendous charm. Oh well, a not-really a girl-anymore can dream!

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  33. GearGirlGearGirl says: 206 comments
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    1909 Arts and Crafts
    Scottsdale, AZ

    So much reminded me of the late 1700s NY house I was outbid on that is on this site, I definitely would guess this one is mid to late 1700s. If it’s still for sale in a few weeks, I think I’ll go visit while I summer up north!

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  34. oldhousenutoldhousenut says: 3 comments
    OHD Supporter

    Takes me right back to all the Wyeth paintings. Eerie! (But excellent.)

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  35. I live nearby and checked this property out. Very nice and spacious with lots of plants and trees. Got 2 sheds as well but the House no longer look like the listed photos. The listed photos were from 2017? And the years has took a toll. Would definitely need a complete renovation, the home looked unlivable.

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    • PuristaPurista says: 177 comments

      Thanks for your scouting and first-hand report. It explains the very low price for such a good, early, well-crafted piece of PA architecture. The fact is, a historically and culturally responsible, minimal-impact preservation approach here is also the least expensive. And starting at 79K–same price as a new tricked-out 16-foot Airstream Bambi–you could have yourself a very special place that is affordable and livable. I sure hope that’s what happens. If not for the virusy rest stops along the interstates right now, I’d hop in the hybrid and head over there myself, grab it, and be done with it 365 days later, working solo.

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