c. 1850 Greek Revival – Wentzville, MO

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3700 Mill St, Wentzville, MO 63385 (63365)

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  • $64,900
  • 4 Bed
  • 2 Bath
  • 1980 Sq Ft
  • 0.5 Ac.
Want to custom build a historic home? Have the best of both worlds-to own a 100+ year old house with the elegance of a new build? Your dreams can come true here! Sellers have already cleared out the home, and it's ready for your TLC. The house is sitting on a .500acre corner lot within the heart of New Melle, and has almost 2,000sqft above ground! *Imagine walking into the second oldest home in New Melle, to see your original wood spindle staircase, a cozy family room opening up to your first level deck, and an immaculate open kitchen with a large island and separate formal dining room. Upstairs you'll have access to additional bedrooms, including the master and en-suite, an easily accessible laundry room (no carrying laundry up/down stairs!), and walking out to the second level deck. The sellers envisioned an elegant layout in a home with great structure!*
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Toni Allen, Coldwell Banker Gundaker
(636) 441-1360
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21 Comments on c. 1850 Greek Revival – Wentzville, MO

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  1. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11863 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Please keep the conversation as “syrupy” as you can. πŸ˜‰ I’d love to keep the comments open and the home on the site.

    At least most of the woodwork is left intact or stacked although it’s going to be a heck of a job putting her back together.

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    • GloriaH says: 76 comments

      This isn’t shiplap. This is lathe. The most practical way at this point would be to drywall. Finding someone who really knows how to plaster would be difficult and walls have changed positions already. While this looks bad right now, it will really allow the new owner to be practical with wiring, insulation and mechanicals.

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      • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11863 comments
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        1901 Folk Victorian
        Chestatee, GA

        Oops, I edited my comment a bit ago to remove the question, decided maybe I shouldn’t ask. But you are right, I don’t know why I called it “shiplap”, I was just reading about lath (with plaster) last week in regards to wallpaper. Thanks for answering!

      • David Sweet says: 260 comments

        I agree about it being hard to find a competent plasterer. I have been doing all my own for years, because plasterers simply aren’t available in my area. Usually after mechanicals go in I put up “Blue board” and do veneer plaster on top. It goes up just like drywall, but you don’t have to worry about seams because you’re going to plaster.
        It’s a great system for those who want the look and durability of plaster, but without lath.

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    • Anita Gilliland says: 1 comments

      Love the home! But it’s not Wentzville. New Melle is a nearby small town in a different school district. It is only 15 minutes to Wentzville and the many services, but New Melle has a gorgeous small town feel and is far more rural.

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  2. ddbackerddbacker says: 484 comments
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    1971 Uninspired split-level
    Prairie Village, KS

    Looks solid. I hope it can be saved – lots of potential here. Plus I like the George Thorogood song, “Back to Wentzville”.

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  3. Mike says: 368 comments

    I love the way they have…?

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  4. Natasha Pasternack says: 16 comments

    Winter wonderland ?

  5. RosewaterRosewater says: 6681 comments
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    1875 Italianate cottage
    Noblesville, IN

    You’ll have to be REALLY skinny to get up that service stair! How is that even possible? Heheheh. I’m sure there must be an explanation for just what exactly is going on there; but the pix seem to offer no explanation. I mean, it must transect the wall – right? πŸ˜‰

  6. JimHJimH says: 5100 comments
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    Across the street from the house in New Melle is the Meier Store, a small building built about 1857 now listed on the National Register. This is the Meier house built by the same family, among the earliest residents of the village. The house and store are a matched set, owned and operated by 3 generations of the family until the mid-20th Century.
    Wilhelm Meier brought his wife and infant son from Germany to Missouri around 1840 and purchased land from the government. Ernst H. Meier (1838-1879) served three years in the Civil War and worked with his father on the farm and at the store. After his early death, Ernst’s widow Catherine Louise and later their son Charles ran the store for another 60 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meier_General_Store

    Beyond its importance to local history, it’s an impressive house that could be a fine family home again, and is worthy of a sensitive restoration.

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  7. Architectural ObserverArchitectural Observer says: 1010 comments
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    I love the staircase… it’s perfect for this house. It’s a miracle that the original (or at least very early) windows are still intact — that’s a huge bonus… definite keepers.

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    • Kenna says: 5 comments

      My usual in this situation is to add an insulation board over the lath and then drywall. Might not be as pretty as real plaster walls, but the savings means you won’t go broke heating a large house like this in winter.
      One of my houses has this treatment, one doesn’t, both are similar size, about 1600 sq, with about the same r factor for insulation in the attic. The one with the plaster and lath walls can cost as much as $400.canadian a month to heat in the winter, the other about half. If it hits -28 celsius that 400. can skyrocket. Old houses are my passion, but it’s not a cheap love affair.

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      • Architectural ObserverArchitectural Observer says: 1010 comments
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        Insulation board can definitely help with heating costs, but blown-in insulation can also be effective and allows the plaster to stay in place. That’s what I did in my current home and it has stayed warm all winter. Granted, I’m not in Canada, but Kansas still gets cold enough. I heat with a wood-burning stove so can not attest to any changes in a heating bill, but I do know that if the fire goes out the house will stay warm for quite a while before it cools off. Also added a thick layer to the attic floor.

        A smaller house can be insulated in this way in less than two days (with two people working). The only downsides to blown-in insulation are that you have a lot of small holes to patch afterwards and that the insulation tends to settle over a long time. But new insulation can be blown into the walls later to top it off.

        Did you have any challenges associated with a new wall thickness when adding insulation board? Drywall on top of insulation board can often result in thicknesses which are greater than the original plaster. This typically requires extensions to affected door and window jambs in order to bring the casings forward. Otherwise window and door trim can appear flush with (or submerged beneath) the wall plane. It’s a lot of extra work, but everything done to a house – new or old – is a lot of work! And new houses don’t come cheap, either.

        There are many different options and workable approaches; it ultimately depends upon what is valued most, and what one’s time and wallet will allow for. I’m glad you’re getting noticeable benefit from your insulation board!

  8. Kandi says: 65 comments

    I see someone tore out all the vintage irreplaceable plaster walls to make way for mighty fine dry wall. Maybe there was a compelling reason. It still has some sweet features to it.

    • BelBel says: 12 comments
      1900 vernacular
      Bluegrass region, KY

      I’m seeing white plaster, I wonder if it was the gypsum stuff that hates water, MO humidity and weather can do a real number on it. This house looks good structurally I think this one has a lot of potential. I love the wood beadboard ceilings, especially after having to work on securing and patching the plaster on mine.

  9. Krista Fisher says: 1 comments

    We saved one in worse shape than this one, except we had to demo it. It took us 14 months, nonstop, plus working full time, to make it livable, not done but livable. We tore out lathe and plaster, insulated , hvac, windows…you name it, we did it. Ten years later and we are still working on it. It’s tough, but doable, and totally worth it!!!

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  10. Dennis says: 23 comments

    As a novice restorer, why is drywall such a negative as opposed to lath and plaster? I realize it’s not original but then much will not be original when finished. And it’s wide open for wiring, etc. What is the downside?

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    • Architectural ObserverArchitectural Observer says: 1010 comments
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      That’s a great question! There are numerous reasons why plaster is revered by devoted preservationists. These reasons include economic, aesthetic, thermal, acoustic, environmental and time considerations. Normally removal is only looked at as a negative when the plaster was in good or retainable condition before it was removed.

      There are times, of course, when plaster is so badly damaged that much of it has already fallen and the removal of remaining damaged portions is necessary . More often, though, plaster is removed simply due to a lack of awareness of other options.

      Walls and ceilings do not need to be wide open in order to facilitate wiring, plumbing, etc., — only the specific pathway areas need to be open, and these areas can be patched later. In the case of wiring, only occasional holes need to be made as wire can be snaked and fished through pathways. It takes time, but not as much time as total removal/replacement!

      Plaster and lath provide better thermal and acoustic insulation than drywall provides. It takes an enormous amount of time and effort to remove plaster and lath, and it makes a lot of dust in the process. It takes additional time to hang and finish sheetrock. That’s a lot of time spent removing and replacing! Time equals money and drywall isn’t free. Devout preservationists appreciate the subtle irregularities that are inherent to plastered surfaces — they provide a sharp contrast to the perfect flatness of drywall and provide an authentic historic atmosphere. Plaster is quite an art and is rarely done now; it is an increasingly desirable historic feature to retain and honors the original laborers who did it.

      Rooms done in plaster just sound different acoustically from drywalled rooms; plaster not only deadens sound transmission better but offers better thermal insulation as well. Removing plaster can damage adjacent woodwork or floors in the process. The less an historic building is manipulated the more integrity it retains. And then there is the environmental factor. Putting still-usable materials into a landfill is not helpful to the environment. This is a short answer to your question, here is a link to an article on the subject with additional information:

      https://thecraftsmanblog.com/5-worst-mistakes-of-historic-homeowners-part-4-plaster/

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  11. Dennis says: 1 comments

    Thanks for taking the time to reply. This is great info and pretty much what I expected to hear. Great points!

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  12. Cheryl P says: 15 comments

    I would prefer to maintain plaster walls but would want plaster checked out. If the ceilings have had any water damage the plaster can be weakened and fall. It can be very heavy and cause injuries and/or damage furniture. Happened to my brother-in-law. Their ceiling had had some water damage from a frozen pipe to their hot water heater. He heard a large cracking and rumbling sound and was standing in the hallway, thankfully, when the whole ceiling fell in. The plaster was very
    thick and could have killed him. As it was their antique fur-
    niture had to be sent out for repairs.

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  13. brigidbrigid says: 592 comments
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    1930 Eclectic Lake Cabin
    Smalltown, OK

    Important fact πŸ™‚ – Wentzville, MO – Birthplace of Chuck Berry!
    Don’t know if it sold, but his former home was for sale.
    https://photos.riverfronttimes.com/chuck-berrys-former-home-is-for-sale-and-it-will-have-you-reelin-and-rockin/?slide=1&windermere01

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