c. 1900 Colonial Revival – Guilford, NY (George F. Barber)

SOLD / Archived From 2016
Added to OHD on 2/4/16   -   Last OHD Update: 8/9/18   -   32 Comments
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  • $49,900
  • 6 Bed
  • 2 Bath
  • 2112 Sq Ft
This Victorian home has so much potential and could be brought back to her original beauty with some TLC. The original woodwork, formal entry, stained glass windows and pocket doors all add to the original features of the home. There is an ornate fireplace in the oversized dining room, wood floors thru-out, 6 bedrooms and 2 baths. The kitchen features an original wood burning cook stove and slate floor. Covered wrap front porch and 2 enclosed porches. Detached 2 car garage. Located in quaint upstate hamlet.
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32 Comments on c. 1900 Colonial Revival – Guilford, NY (George F. Barber)

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  1. Kelly, OHD adminKelly, OHD admin says: 10060 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    I’m wondering if this is possibly a Barber design.

    • Chris DiMatteiChris DiMattei says: 261 comments

      My thoughts as well, Kelly. If only the photos weren’t so bad, I could probably tell for sure. I will research it further, and comment again. Thanks for posting this one.

      • Chris DiMatteiChris DiMattei says: 261 comments

        Ok, well, it didn’t take that long to conclude that this is, in fact, a George Barber designed home. The floor plan and in particular, the main staircase match Barber’s published design. With a little work, this home could be a stunner, inside and out.

  2. AvatarBethany says: 2576 comments
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    Escondido, CA

    The interior pics are fascinating–looks like a lot of original features are intact.

  3. HalfClassicSixHalfClassicSix says: 95 comments
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    1852 Greek Revival Rowhouse
    Philadelphia, PA

    It’s a bit remote, but has a lot of potential to be a lovely home. I know that the price point of $70k is not going to bring an agent a lot of commission, but that is no excuse for such lousy interior photos. Even basic smartphones can take much better photos than this, and I would find it hard to imagine a realtor not having even a basic smartphone at this point in time. They didn’t even turn the lights on.

  4. Michael MackinMichael Mackin says: 1264 comments

    Kelly, There is a plan in George Barbers Modern American Homes, November, 1901 that is very similar. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a Barber design.

    I’d post the link but I’m not sure how to.

  5. AvatarMJ35 says: 7 comments

    Beautiful house–the quality of the pics and the junk within are brutal.

  6. AvatarAmyB says: 25 comments

    It looks like a bunch of frat boys have been living there and they took the photos drunk – lol! It looks like it could be very lovely. The hardest part, I think, would be scrapping and repainting the exterior and for that price, there would at least be money to do so.

  7. AvatarLouB says: 85 comments

    What potential!
    If this was in Oak Park (IL), even in the shape it’s in it would fetch at least 500K. Ah, but as they say…Location.

  8. Kelly, OHD adminKelly, OHD admin says: 10060 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Thanks Chris! Here is the design it may be based from.

    • Avatarlara jane says: 573 comments

      Hmm… If that was the plan they didn’t use much of it. The fact that the front dormer and side bay windows are changed/added isn’t meaningful enough evidence but the floorplan itself is just so different.

      The house in the listing has the parlor and “oversized dining room” back-to-back (pocket doors?) with another room or two beyond that, excluding the rear addition. Having looked at thousands of house plans over the years, this looks like it has a double parlor plus dining room (“piano height” windows on the side), then pantry and kitchen at the back/opposite side. Looks like there is a rear staircase on the “wrong” side here, too.

      It would be so much easier to sort out if there were better and clearer photos!

      If you think I have no life, you’re right. hahahaha! I have spent way too many hours obsessing over houses. At least I have good company! 😀

      • Kelly, OHD adminKelly, OHD admin says: 10060 comments
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        1901 Folk Victorian
        Chestatee, GA

        We have lives, they just both evolve revolve around old houses! 🙂

      • Chris DiMatteiChris DiMattei says: 261 comments

        Lara Jane, Barber’s published version of this design is a rather small example, and only represents one possible layout for this design. Each example that gets built is usually quite different from the published plans, which was highly desired by Barber. By customizing each example of any particular design, Barber could claim that he was truly his client’s architect, and not just some distributor of stock plans. It is actually quite rare for me to find a built example of a Barber design that exactly matches the published version of the design. Obviously, this Mount Upton version of the design is quite a bit larger than the published version, containing more rooms and with different orientation, but the staircase is a match in both design and orientation, and yet it still has a customization, the location of the bench. Classic George Barber.

        • Avatarlara jane says: 573 comments

          Oh, Chris, I’m so sorry if it came across that I was doubting you! I would never be so presumptuous! Of course I defer to your expertise in all things Barber! I had no idea that he would use his “stock” plans and spin them into such incredible custom homes. Can you imagine anything of the like today, with such magnificent detail? It would cost untold millions!

          I worked on the AR side of a lumber company in California and so many homes were basic boxes with your “customs” being laminate vs carpet, what color granite countertops, whether to add a rec room instead of having a two-story living room… Still all totally generic, garages dominating the façades. Even building a from-scratch, truly custom home didn’t yield anything this quality, not least of all because of the materials available, or rather not available, today.

          • Chris DiMatteiChris DiMattei says: 261 comments

            No worries at all. That spiel just flies off my finger tips, so fast, because many of the people I inform about the Barber origins of their home, often get hung up on the fact that their house doesn’t look exactly like the published version. You are right, it would be impossible to replicate today, what Barber and other 19th century architects produced in their time. In Barber’s case, the shear volume of his work is mind boggling, especially when you consider the slow, manual techniques used at the time. Today, virtually no hand drawing is done, throughout the architectural process. Today, without a computer, design and drawing software, and electricity, architects would simply go home for lack of the ability to produce, anything!. The basic boxes you speak of are so cookie cutter, that most people don’t even recognize that they have, in fact, already given up on the possibility of living in home filled with character, built with human hands and contributing to the artistic and social well being of the community. This is why it is so important to restore and preserve these historic achievements. Sorry if I am preaching, but today’s architecture just bums me out. Anyway, I am happy that you enjoy and appreciate Barber’s craft.

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            • Avatarchris says: 1 comments

              I thought I read contemp. architecture “..BURNS me out.” But you said BUMS me out. Either way, I echo the sentiment. I dwelled in some nice old
              Vic’s in Frisco’s ghettos back in the 70’s..great flats, CHEAP rents! (back in the day)

  9. Avataralice says: 4 comments

    It must be in livable condition it looks like someone is living in the house now. Wish it had better pictures !!

  10. JimHJimH says: 4105 comments
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    The place is Mount Upton, a hamlet in the larger Town and Zip of Guilford. Just a couple of miles from Butternuts aka Gilbertsville, also close to Oxford, Norwich and other little places in Chenango and Otsego Counties that have a variety of Victorian era homes. One exceptional example: http://www.oldhousedreams.com/2014/01/10/1887-romanesque-butternuts-ny/
    A bit out of the way and not a whole lot going on here but some folks like it that way. You might have the best house in Mount Upton if you fixed this one up.

  11. AvatarRoss says: 4 comments

    This house is a poster child for Beauty Needing Love.

    The place would be a knock-out after a careful restoration.

    Drool. Drool.

  12. John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 4645 comments

    It’s encouraging to see that others have looked beyond the clutter to see the beauty in this faded home. The gut-and-remodel flippers and Property Brothers types haven’t gotten to this one yet and let’s hope they never do. Clean out the clutter, keep all of the original details, and with a little TLC this one would be a jewel. It’s priced at a fraction of what it would sell for in other places but the advantage for the next owner is to be able to own a turn of the century mansion on less than a starter house budget. Nice to learn it has a George Barber design provenance. His by-mail house designs were usually well thought out and functional.

  13. AvatarLUCINDA HOWARD says: 217 comments

    Leave the stove, please

  14. It’s a shame there are no pics of the upstairs. Are those blankets on the staircase? I’m wondering if they are trying to keep drafts out. Kind of odd to cover the stairs off the first landing. It definitely is a beautiful place. Just a little polish and paint and it will be pretty amazing.

  15. Kelly, OHD adminKelly, OHD admin says: 10060 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    The owner passed away last year, link to obit. The homes address shows Mount Upton as well as Guilford.

  16. AvatarJeremy says: 2 comments

    I am the new owner of this old Victorian home. Unfortunately it isnt a George Franklin Barber, Home. The house was built in 1840, and Barber was born in 1854. However the house is beautiful as is. I really look forward in seeing it once I finally get it completely restored, back to its glory.

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 693 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Jeremy, where did you get the 1840 date?

      • AvatarDodgeman says: 2 comments
        1840 Victorian
        Mount Upton, NY

        It’s right in my Deed saying it, year built 1840.

        • Christopher R DiMatteiChristopher R DiMattei says: 261 comments

          Most likely there was a house there that was built in 1840, like the deed says, but the house that is there now, was likely the result of a renovation that took place around 1900. This scenario would account for the recorded deed, the Barber attribution because the 1900 time frame coincides with his Colonial work, and the resultant architecture that visually looks like something that was constructed around 1900. JMHO though.

    • JimHJimH says: 4105 comments
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      Jeremy, thanks for taking on the restoration. There are tons of beautiful old homes in your region that are being neglected or abused and it’s nice to hear a positive story!
      Please subscribe to OHD. You will quickly learn about the historical styles of American homes and their time periods. Most of us would have nailed this one as being from just after 1900 without any mention of Barber, the form of the house and various details being very specific to that period.

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  17. AvatarLUCINDA L HOWARD says: 217 comments

    Jeremy, lucky you. Please keep us posted and PLEASE don’t paint that wonderful fretwork.

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