1925 Classical Revival – Hamlet, NC

SOLD / Archived From 2015
Added to OHD on 1/13/15 - Last OHD Update: 2/14/18 - 101 Comments
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Price

$225,000

Beds

6

Baths

4

SqFt

6000

Acres

1.84

Beautiful home in need of some TLC. Over 6,000 sq. feet on 1.84 Ac. This home such great potential to be a showplace.
Sold By
Wendy R Massagee, Coventry Investment Properties      (910) 695-0352 - Cell 910-331-3100
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100 Comments on 1925 Classical Revival – Hamlet, NC

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  1. AvatarBethany says: 2519 comments

    Oh be still my heart! Amazing!

  2. AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

    A beautiful house. I need to do more research on this baby as NC is a place we are looking to move (along with other areas). I do not think it will even take $75K to restore this place as labor is a bit cheaper in NC vs NY area. The kitchen needs a redo on countertops but I do not mind cabinets as they appear near original. The curtains will make great paint cloths as we redo the walls 🙂 We are more restorers than remodelers. This place has great bones!

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    • AvatarDanny Boy says: 2 comments

      Having done a few old houses, you will probably want to revise that estimate. The kitchen alone will cost you more than $75000. Yes, labor is a little cheaper there (good luck finding the help). Here’s a list of typical issues, some of these are quite costly on a big house. Windows – roof – plumbing – electrical – heat – cooling – bathrooms – kitchen – water damage – plaster – paint – flooring – landscaping – hardscaping – brick repair – fireplaces(s) – light fixtures

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      • RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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        1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
        Emporia, KS

        $75K just for the kitchen?

        Well, one COULD spend that. And more.

        But I could redo the kitchen, and make it stunning, for less than $20K.

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        • Avatardanny Boy says: 2 comments

          Well, IMHO, the grandness of the house requires a pretty high design and construction standard… you could do it for less of course, but would you really want to put cheap appliances, counters, sinks, etc. in it? And that hole in the ceiling is ominous… where is the cooktop BTW?

          • When grand houses like this were built, kitchens were functional as a priority, and seen more by the housekeeper than the homeowner. Now they have become living spaces, so theoretically the sky could be the limit, if you like that sort of thing. Otherwise, yeah, you could just have a normal kitchen for a reasonable amount.

      • AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

        $75K for a kitchen with gold faucets As I always say, I prefer to restore vs update. You can do a great kitchen and more for much less. It is amazing the services that are out there plus if you have done old homes before you can do a lot of sweat equity.

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        • AvatarShelley says: 1 comments

          $75000 is probably a pretty accurate estimate for this kitchen re-do. We re-did the kitchen in our 1908 home in Cincinnati for a little over 50K, and it didn’t need as much work as this one does. It’s redone, but still stylistically fits with the vintage of the home. To do it for less would have been possible, but it would not look so much like it belongs in an old home like this.

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        • AvatarMartha Friend says: 3 comments

          On the kitchen I wouldn’t gut the whole thing. The cabinets look great. Yea they need cleaning and paint but what scares me is that big whole in the ceiling is it fire or water. But I would take the cabinets down put them in another room for work later. Stove etc would be denoted their not that bad.. My daughter remodel bought herself a Viking stove about 6K for the cost it wasn’t used very much She would have been better with maybe a 1500 stove. I will agree that the kitchen and baths really need work but maybe I’m being stupid but 75k should do it. But what about the light bill,

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    • AvatarRealestatelady says: 3 comments

      This home would be worth every penny to renovate. I saw it a couple years ago and it has many great details that are characteristic of the charm of old greek classic architecture of several homes in Hamlet. Great lot as well..

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    • Avatarrenee says: 3 comments

      I agree, I would keep the old cabinets and not remake the entire kitchen. I love old cabinets. They are all custom made. Just some new marble countertops and new flooring, paint and she would sparkle like a new penny.

      Only those who don’t appreciate the history would gut it.

    • AvatarMG says: 1 comments

      We have a beautiful old home as big as this in Wadesboro. The kitchen has been completely redone. We are in the process of finishing 2 complete apartments in the basement that will help greatly with the payment. Would be glad to send pics. The ones on the house are before renovations.

  3. AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

    What is interesting is that in 2012 this house was $200K and had the same Realtor description. I wonder what changed in the last almost 3 years.

    • AvatarRealestatelady says: 3 comments

      Highest bid would be 175,000 on the high end… It is beautiful but it needs a lot of work. I saw it in 2012. Beautiful then but it also required rewiring and added heat/air.

      • AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

        I have been told the current owners did a lot of work since they purchased it in 2012. It appears roof issues have been addressed but I am not sure what else. They cut down over grown brush and sadly, tree’s! I have no clue why they would have done that as you look at 2012 views and current views and so many tree’s appear to be gone. I worry about the condition of the pool also as it has not been used in years. It may look like a cement pond by this time. A house falls apart so fast when it is not occupied.

    • AvatarLFK says: 1 comments

      The owner died. This house belonged to a great friend of my parents and my husband and I looked into buying it back in 2003 or so, just did not want to live again in Hamlet where I grew up. Her husband was a physician and he sewed stitches in my leg when i was 8 years old and fell and split open my knee! Beautiful house, there is also a pool and a separate carriage house we were going to use for a mother in law apartment, but again, Hamlet is just not what it was in the 1960s….Beautiful home, copper gutters, great lot and location, hope someone will restore it and love it.

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    • AvatarSandy S says: 1 comments

      I live in hamlet and the only thing they have done is cleaned up the outside so that you could actually see the house. It was so overgrown. Also they did some roof work, but that’s about it.

      • AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

        Roof repaired, Fascia replaced/repaired. painting, repaired/ replaced damaged wood in the attic from the roof leaks, removed overgrowth and a good nit more.

  4. AvatarElaine says: 92 comments

    This one TOTALLY rocks! The pictures are SO pretty! I love what they have done with it (except maybe the bedrooms)! The bathroom is very bright and inviting! I love the pretty blue in the kitchen! The only thing is, I wish there was a window on the landing. I LOVE windows there, to let the light in! And oh my gosh! The bookshelves and the cabinets! WOW! And I just love what they have done with this house; the ambiance is perfect! There is not much here I would change! I’m totally in love with this one!

    • RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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      1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
      Emporia, KS

      There is a window on the landing. See image 17 from top.

      • ElaineElaine says: 140 comments

        Ross, cool, you FOUND one! I was looking at picture 15; it looks like there’s not one on that pic, but probably it must have been taken in the evening or something. Now the only real thing I can think of, is to move the sink from the island to in front of the window. One MUST be able to see what the neighbors are doing when one is doing something as boring as dishes!!

  5. AvatarLaurie W. says: 1542 comments

    Oh yes! I’d just love to get my hands on this house! If only we needed 6000 sq feet. The proportions of rooms — height to width — is much more true to the original period than in most ’20s Federal/Georgian revivals; they tended to get these more right in the 30s. Details are unforgettable — the walls & fireplace in the library, wow! Kitchen cabinets can’t be beat. All the mantels are gorgeous. The front door lights make me smile ear to ear, they are so beautiful and graceful. If somebody doesn’t recognize this as the prize it is, I give up on the world!

  6. AvatarSeesMast says: 10 comments

    I love this one! The high ceilings and bookshelves are so perfect. Can someone tell me if that is a skylight in the attic (last picture)? Was that common in that era?

    • AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

      Yes that is a type of skylight. It opened, I suppose to let the heat out back in the day.

      • AvatarSeesMast says: 10 comments

        Thanks Wendy!

        • AvatarRealestatelady says: 3 comments

          It had more to do with natural light. Attics as a whole tend to be darker anyway especially as the top room of the home this was an inexpensive way to add lighting to a dim space.. if you notice there is only 1 electrical light to the left of the skylight.

  7. AvatarDot Gillis says: 51 comments

    Frankly, my dear…I’m in love! Fiddiley dee….I’ll just have to think about this tomorrow!

  8. I just spent some time looking at Hamlet properties on Trulia. While this would certainly be the grandest home in town, there are some nice ones that are more “move in ready” albeit less grand in the 149K ballpark, one a nice brick colonial revival. A 1949 “Williambsurg” for 169K was also appealing. Guess not much going on here; maybe a good place to retire?

    • AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

      This is a great little town. I moved here from Atlanta 25 years ago. I thought I had fallen into Mayberry. We are in the middle of nowhere but close to everything. 30 minutes from Pinehurst- less than 2 hours to the beach. 4 hours to the mountains, just under 2 hours to Raleigh and Charlotte. This is town of just 6,000. My service station pumps my gas and the local pharmacy still delivers.

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      • JulieJulie says: 122 comments

        Heaven. And this house may be my favorite one ever. It looks like no one has lived here in a while. I love the time capsule quality. Want!!

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  9. AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

    I am the broker for the property. I apologize for the outside pics. The sun was at an angle I could not photograph and it has rained daily since. I took new pics today that I will be uploading. I will gladly email them to you if you like. This is an amazing house.

    • Kelly, Old House DreamsKelly, Old House Dreams says: 9829 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      That would be awesome! Once available if you’d like to email me or just let us know they’ve been added to the listing photos, whichever is easiest for you. Thanks!

    • AvatarGeorge N Megee says: 1 comments

      Wendy, do you have pictures of the pool & carriage house and the back yard? the hole in the celling in the kitchen what happen and has it ben repaired also the ceiling in the room with the red room divider. Is the house vacant any picture of the basement, what condition of wiring ?

  10. Doug GreenDoug Green says: 85 comments
    1929 Spanish Revival
    Glendale, CA

    I hope whomever buys the house does a period perfect restoration. The main thing the kitchen has going for it (besides what looks like the original cabinets) is square footage and that is so rare in houses of this era. It’s such a beautiful house and I love it.

  11. Kelly, Old House DreamsKelly, Old House Dreams says: 9829 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Many thanks to the agent, Wendy, new exterior photos have been added to the post.

  12. RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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    1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
    Emporia, KS

    The fifth image takes my breath away! Thanks Wendy! Thanks Kelly!

    Oh, I hope the new owner appreciates the dining room chandelier and lyre sconces. They are wonderful, and likely original.

  13. AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

    The new pictures show the painting and cleaning that has been done. I had to use old ones until weather cleared and I could get new ones up. Everything is original. Lived in by only 2 families. You be interested to know the columns are metal not wood.

  14. RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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    1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
    Emporia, KS

    Looking at an aerial view, the lot is VERY large (almost 2 acres) and there is a built-in swimming pool.

    The more I look at this house the more I like it.

    • Avatarcassie.barrett says: 8 comments

      Wendy,would it be possible to post the aerial view?

    • Avatarlbbjr says: 52 comments

      Ross I agree, I am torn between this one and the Glorious South Carolina for $110k. Equally grand and stately!! I especially love the kitchen!
      I need someone to help me get the finance to save it from a moderniser

  15. AvatarGraham says: 163 comments

    Wow what a great, great house!
    I am surprised that the crime rate (at least for 2012) was so high.
    I love the idea of a big skylight in the attic (although it may be the source of the hole in the kitchen ceiling 🙂
    If I were looking for a place down south this would be on my top ten list.

  16. AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

    I have asked Wendy if all the interior photo’s are current but have not received a response. This house sold about 2 years ago so I suspect some photo’s may be from back at that time. She did confirm the hole in the kitchen is still there even though the problem was fixed. A great house which we have an interest but need more info.

    • AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

      The interior pics are mostly from when it was listed before. The inside has not been touched so it looks the same,its just that it had more furniture in it at that time than now. The people that bought it a few years ago replaced fascia boards, removed overgrowth and trees and repaired roof and damaged pipes and boards. None of the work they did is within the rooms of the house.

  17. AvatarDerby Debby says: 1 comments

    There are so many older homes in Hamlet now for sale at reasonable prices. I purchased the old 1922 Levine house on Bauersfeld in March and have done quite a bit of work on it. I am in the process of rewiring now and that should complete the major jobs. Most of these older ones will need wiring, plumbing upgrades, paint, hardwood floor work, landscaping, etc. I did most of the paint myself and lots of the flowers and landscaping. I ran into plumbing and wiring issues that required professional help. I did not have to really spend a fortune to make this house nice enough to suit my needs. I would love to see these houses start selling soon before they really deteriorate beyond renovations!

  18. AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

    Another great place in Hamlet. It is being listed for less than the subject property.
    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/402-Rice-St_Hamlet_NC_28345_M65108-26215?row=6

  19. AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

    I live on Rice Street and know this house. It is beautiful also.

  20. AvatarNancy Barbour Butler says: 1 comments

    This is a great, old home that deserves someone who has the love and money to restore it. The Lindsey family and my family were wonderful friends and I have such sweet memories there. Hamlet was a wonderful town to grow up in.

  21. Kelly, Old House DreamsKelly, Old House Dreams says: 9829 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    The agent, Wendy, just sent in an old print of the home. I’ve uploaded it and it can be found at the bottom of the images. Thank you Wendy!

  22. RossRoss says: 2372 comments

    We love Wendy!!!!!!

    • AvatarWendy Massagee says: 1 comments

      Thank you. It is nice to see the home appreciated. I thought you all may like the picture.

  23. AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

    A great house. I hope the tree’s will grow back to mirror the old post card. Too bad the interior photo’s are so old (2+ years). Hate to travel to NC and be disappointed when we see the place. So many of us have been through this where we travel hours by car or airplane to see a house to realize the pictures in the listing were old and things are much worse than shown. This would be a great restoration project for us. I am trying to do as much research I can on the area but people I am trying to communicate have been less than friendly and/or approachable. This is one great house though!!

  24. AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

    I will gladly send you current pics. No one has lived in the house since the pics were taken. I only used the pics because there was more furniture in the house so it was staged better. Nothing is really any different now. Nothing is worse because the roof leaks were fixed.
    You must not be speaking with anyone in Hamlet regarding the home. This town is very friendly and the home is well known. I have many contacts and I can provide much information. I have provided my cell number 910-331-3100 and my email Wendy@CovingtonNC.com. I will gladly put you in contact with anyone you wish speak to- from the man that grew up in the house to the Granddaughter of the man that built the home. Only 2 families have lived in the home.

  25. AvatarMike M. says: 6 comments

    Love it! IMHO looks like the kitchen needs the most work, but this is exactly the way I like to find ’em. Thank goodness no one has come in and loaded the room with cherry cabinets. I’d leave the entire bank of cabinets against the wall leading to the dining room. New backsplash and countertop of course. Looks like there’s a pull-out breadboard. Awesome. But the sink needs to go back under the windows. And the range hood is to the right of the windows, indicating that a built-in range is in that corner under the plastic bins. Ugh. I’d reconfigure the window wall and right wall salvaging as much of the cabinetry as possible. I’d get rid of the island and just put in a small table and four chairs. Is there hardwood under the linoleum? Boy I have rambled haven’t I? 🙂

  26. I think that everyone is correct; it just comes down to what level you feel you need to be happy. Personally, I suspect the only way this will be saved is a creative solution – either commercial use or dividing into condos or rentals. While Hamlet appears to be a perfectly lovely place to live, I doubt there are many people looking for a “Hamptons” property in this area.

    • AvatarSterling Silver says: 2 comments

      Joseph, I think that you are absolutely correct. It all depends on how you want to live. My mother grew up in Hamlet during the Roaring 20s when the railroad was king there. Her father owned the local dairy and later worked for the railroad. I know how great that town used to be. When the railroad died, the town took a bad hit. You can now ride down Spring Street and see all of the old homes boarded up and in disrepair. It’s a shame but time has marched on and Hamlet hasn’t been able to find a strong industry to sustain it. The people are nice but Hamlet just isn’t a growing town. Six miles away is the town of Rockingham where I grew up. Though its in better shape than Hamlet, it struggles to stay alive because textiles, once king in that area, has long gone overseas due to cheap labor. I’m fortunate to live about 65 miles away in another Southern town that thrives because it borders I-95 and still has some industry and a large medical complex.
      You are probably correct as to the solution for this house—condos or a commercial office building. It happens a lot in the South now. It’s a shame but it’s a fact of life. I’m glad to have grown up in the 40s and 50s when life was a little more simple and people were a little more civil and graceful.

  27. AvatarTara says: 1 comments

    Whomever purchases this house I sure hope that they restore it to it’s former glory and don’t try to decorate with what is popular today. I hope that they decorate with a timeless sense. I breaks my heart when I go into an old home and people put a modern spin on it.

  28. AvatarWendy the realtor says: 1 comments

    Loving all the comments. I wish you all could see the house to appreciate the beauty of her. This home continues to amaze me. Did I tell you all in the bedrooms full length mirrors are made into doors. There are also 3 set of pocket doors downstairs. As far heating and cooling, we don’t huge amount or long periods of cold weather. Natural gas is available to the house and the meter is already in place on the house. I have had several people in the house all with different views- from keeping the kitchen true to itself to taking out the wall to the breakfast room and installing new cabinets and granite counters. I don’t want to see it turned into apartments. That would just be wrong. This home is beautiful and elegant and you feel it when you walk through it. One client told me this home deserves respect. Everyone who has viewed it has loved it and some have left nearly in tears because it was too big of a project for them. Not a single person has not liked the home or the layout.

  29. AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

    Zillow shows this property Off Market and listing removed.

  30. AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

    I am the listing agent. I don’t know why Zillow is showing listing removed. I will call and attempt to get a real person tomorrow. I hope to have a you -tube video of the home up by early next week. I will let everyone know when it is posted.

    • AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

      Great Wendy as we are quite interested in the house and are looking for the right house in the NC area. I do know how houses sometimes go temporarily off the market or sell fast:)

    • AvatarAllen says: 1 comments

      Did you ever post a video ?

  31. AvatarKenneth Lee Benjamin says: 62 comments

    I was again thinking of going to Hamlet to take a serious look at this home and maybe buy it and make it my home.But I see it looks to be off the market?? anyone know any details if this is true? I did see a couple of other nice homes in the area.

  32. AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

    Sorry for being MIA. The house is available. Don’t know what the issues is with Zillow. I was having the house cleaned up but we had some record cold weather and ice and it delayed the cleaning ladies. They finished up today and I will get the video scheduled unless it sells before then.

    • AvatarKenneth Lee Benjamin says: 3 comments

      Thanks for that info.I have been reading all the comments on this house and its opened my eyes a bit.I am in my 50’s and finally am able to get my dream house and being retired I can live anywhere.Im from Miami but have lived on a farm in a very old house near Asheville NC and really want to stay in NC or maybe Virginia.I hear a lot of stories about the costal and Peidmont areas with the high electric costs,so right now I am looking at all areas and when I find the right old home I know it will hit me, its taken me years to finally have my dream house in view I am hoping I can handle a large home,I sure have enough old things to put into it,and being a semi horder I love that huge attic and would spend hours there going thru my stuff with Billie Holiday music on my turntable. The kitchen would look great with vintage looking counter tops and the cabinets stay,I am a fan of Grey Gardens and Im not too picky in having everything in perfect shape,just safe and sound.Looking forward to more posts and pics.

  33. AvatarJohn Wiebe says: 6 comments

    My wife and I request you contact us regarding homes listed in Hamlet, NC. We have tried to leave other messages but have not received any responses. We currently live and are stationed on Fort Bragg, NC Thank you, V/r John Wiebe

  34. AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

    Unfortunately, people seem to think it is okay to walk around and mess with a property if it is unoccupied. People are getting braver and braver. Someone broke in glass last week to access the home which is what you found. They took nothing but apparently wondered around and looked at the house. Last week I had to get that cleaned and repaired. I guess they thought this was okay since no one lives there. I will be speaking with the police. Anyone coming onto the property with out an agent or the owner will be considered trespassing. You would not believe the calls I get from people who just decided to ride to town to look at the house without scheduling appointment. I had someone call asking to get in ” just to look around”. They drove to town without an appointment. I was unable to meet with them so they asked if they could go in through a window! I have pulled up more than once to people milling about. This is wrong. This house sat for years with doors unlocked and no one messed with it. Now I have people roaming about like it is a public space. Please be considerate, this is someone’s property not a park.
    Regarding agency. Dual agency is different than buyers agency. Dual agency- you do not represent the buyer or seller. Buyers agency represents the buyer only.

  35. AvatarWendy Massagee says: 13 comments

    Yes, the video may still be on the schedule. I had to coordinate with the cleaning crew and we had bad weather which caused several delays. The house was broken into last week so the video had to be postponed again until that could be repaired and cleaned. I will try to schedule yet again. However, if offers come in then I will delay.
    I make myself available to clients to show on short notice also. However, I have not perfected being in 2 places at once. IF you have some insight on that please let me know.

  36. Avatarcgantt5 says: 2 comments

    Also for perspective here is a restored house that is on the market in Hamlet for $219,00 (sorry could not get the hyperlink to work.

    http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/402-Rice-St-Hamlet-NC-28345/2117853210_zpid/

    • Avatarcgantt5 says: 2 comments

      Graham,
      I agree totally this house is all about heart and nostalgia. maybe that is why i cannot stop thinking about it. they just not build houses like this anymore.

    • ElaineElaine says: 140 comments

      This one is another die for gorgeous house! Ross, did you see the windows over the front door? NICE!!!

      That’s a very interesting arrangement for the two staircases, up topside! Never seen that before. The porch is TRUE south!

      Thanks for sharing this one!

  37. RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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    1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
    Emporia, KS

    I always get uncomfortable with the commonly held belief that one needs to make a return on a house.

    Human are not financial automatons. We all do things for a wide variety of reasons.

    How many of us fall in love for the financial return?

    How many of us marry for the financial return? Yes, some do!

    Does anybody undertake the MONUMENTAL task of having children…for the financial return?

    We do such things because there are powerful benefits which have nothing to do with money.

    Mind you, I think it is great to make money by owning and restoring a house. Whoee!

    But to pass on a great old house, particularly one in need, just because the numbers do not make sense in terms of a return, seems, well, just not right.

    Last year I purchased a great big old house, and in terrifying condition. Will I ever make money? Nope. Will I ever even get all my money back? Nope.

    Do I care? Nope.

    And why?

    Because the house nourishes my soul I N T E N S E L Y.

    To me, this is a gift of immense value.

    • AvatarJohn Wiebe says: 6 comments

      Hello Ross,

      First, I only am saying this to be funny so please do not take it any other way i.e. sarcastic, it’s not…. ‘If money is not an option for you than I have some dirt in Florida I would like to sell you.’ Again, just joking.

      Your comments are very sincere and it’s nice to know some people feel the way you do. I and many others do not have the cash to accept a loss. That said, I was never looking at this home as an investment but rather to completely restore and live in the home. I question the crime in the area and although not looking to make a profit myself the house would eventually go to my kids and I would want them to walk away with something should they ever decide to sell once I’m gone. I would also want them to grow up in an area that is safe and should they decide to keep the home I would want the grand kids to be safe as well.

      It will take a lot of money to restore this home. I think upwards to 300k, maybe more. That means 240k (if paid the asking price) plus 300k. I say that because not only will you not make a profit but you stand to lose a large amount of money or at least in my case my kids would never get what I paid for it. I say that based on the area. I could be wrong and hope I am. I love the home as well and would love to purchase. I, like cgantt5 comment, keep coming back to look at this home. I just can’t get past the fact it would cost me over 500k. I have found other homes already restored in that area going for around the asking price of this one. At least that is what I have seen advertised. In fact, someone provide a link to a home in this thread above. Again, if you can afford that and are willing to accept a loss than all the more power to you. I commend you on wanting to do something very kind and decent. If I had that type of money I would more than likely do the same, but I live on a military income that does not support that type of life style. I sincerely wish you the best of luck. God Bless, John

      • RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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        1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
        Emporia, KS

        Hi John,

        My comment was not directed at you. Or at anybody. My comment was about a general attitude regarding historic properties: I Need To Make A Return.

        I think if this is important to a person, fine. But I object to this being a seeming default position regarding great old houses in need.

        You have kids. Did you decide to have kids because of an expected return on your investment? I assume not. Yet you went ahead with a MAJOR investment involving DECADES of time.

        Like having children (and many other endeavors), bringing back a great old house can offer significant rewards other than just financial.

        Mind you, I do not advocate that everybody should just run out and buy a great old house! Although this would be nice! No, each great old house needs a buyer with a deep affinity to the property. A kindred spirit, so to speak. Having money helps, but this is not vital. I purchased my Big Old House knowing I did not have the funds to restore it. But I went ahead, on faith, that somehow things would work out. Just like people do when they get married, and have kids. Faith.

        My restoration will be about 1/3 financed, about 1/3 grants, and the remaining out-of-pocket spread over many years. I was recently approved for a major grant, so my faith has proved (thank God) not wholly a fantasy.

        TWO POINTS:

        1) While I have not been through this way cool house, I suspect it would take way less than $300K to restore it. Note that cgantt5, a former general contractor, thought it would take like half your number. Of course, one could spend twice your number! It all depends on What One Does.

        2) John, if this house is not right for you, for whatever reason, it seems a good idea that you pass on it.

        • AvatarJohn Wiebe says: 6 comments

          First, thank you for the reply and thoughtful comments. You mentioned you received a grant for your home. Can you direct me to the site for such a grant / information? That does interest me and perhaps will help me in the future. Thank you, V/r John

          • RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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            1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
            Emporia, KS

            I have been approved for a $90K state grant. I can also apply again in 2 years.

            The grant only involves historic properties in Kansas. And it involves only properties on the National Register of Historic Places (such as my house), the Kansas Historic Register, or properties in a historic district.

            Other states likely have such programs but I cannot speak on their behalf.

            Before I purchased my Big Old House, I sought out what grants might be available, as I knew I would need help. What I learned was highly encouraging, and helped seal the deal (and qualm my nerves!)

            The grant I have been approved for is highly competitive. This year 47 historic properties applied, and only 14 received grants. So, I am particularly thrilled! And honored! It enormously helped that the house I purchased is a local landmark, as did, I suspect, the quality of the restoration. I am highly dedicated to doing it right, and think this helped.

            Oh, it also helped, a lot I suspect, that the house is in such pitiful condition! EVERYBODY wants to see it saved!

            I am also eligible for a property tax rebate, an energy grant (for doing good insulation & stuff), and there are private foundations which may also help.

            Owning a historic property is not for the faint of heart. They are EXPENSIVE to restore and maintain, so such programs are vital, IMO.

            The Kansas Heritage Trust Fund is a wonderful thing, and I would urge that anybody considering taking on an old house check out properties in Kansas:

            https://www.kshs.org/p/heritage-trust-fund/14617

            • AvatarJohn Wiebe says: 6 comments

              Thank you very much for sharing all that information. It’s much appreciated. V/r John

  38. ElaineElaine says: 140 comments

    RIGHT ON, Ross!

    This house is a kill for! I know this one looks like a total piece of cake to you! It’s all about the love, baby!

    • RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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      1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
      Emporia, KS

      You made me laugh! This house DOES look like a piece of cake compared to my house!

  39. AvatarAmie Wilder says: 1 comments

    Zillow still shows this home as being off the market. Is that true or is it still for sale?

  40. AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

    I wonder if this house has sold or maybe expired with original listing agent as it has been removed by many other Realtor sites. Realtor.com does not show it as sold or removed.

  41. AvatarKirt cottrell says: 5 comments

    We love this house. It needs around $200.000 to make livable put into it. All estimates were from local companies. Heating and air alone was around $60.000 plus home in rear. Wood rotten windows needs replaced. Kitchen total nightmare. Floors taken up down to bare wood sub floors in hall. Asbestos old boiler in basement needs delt with removed. Pool total ruin. Froze busted sides beyond repair. Kitchen total disappointment. No one could get a loan. Owners won’t finance for even ,12 to 24 months and I would have done all repairs and got loan. They refused.ceilings falling in door rott. Wood work water damage etc ceilings water damage etc. All exterior wood is rotten.

  42. AvatarRobb H says: 182 comments

    Look into a FHA 203K loan. Go to a loan broker. Most likely no local bank will finance it if they are not an FHA or FNMA lender.

    • RossRoss says: 2372 comments
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      1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
      Emporia, KS

      Danielle,

      ZOUNDS!

      Astounding find! You made my day!

      My week!

      Thanks so much!

      • Avatardanielle hatfield says: 3 comments

        Happy to help Ross. I was really curious about what the kitchen looked like and after seeing the post card, I had to do some digging. I think the most interesting thing was discovering that the owner J.P. Gibbons was one of 3 men to bring bottled Coca Cola to the Carolina’s and I believe his granddaughter later became the mayor of Hamlet back in the 90s. To me, history like this helps sell/save a house. If I were looking to buy a house with history like this – I’d definitely want the original blue prints!

  43. ElaineElaine says: 140 comments

    Danielle, those plans are just phenomenal! I wonder what’s going on with the house now, with it saying not for sale anymore. This place is absolutely gorgeous!

  44. Kelly, OHD adminKelly, OHD admin says: 9829 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Back on the market at $224,000.

  45. JimHJimH says: 4024 comments
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    The kitchen in this house is in the space labeled Breakfast Room & Pantry on the plan, but without the fireplace. The much larger original kitchen space is there at the back of the house but I don’t see a photo showing what’s in there.
    http://d.lib.ncsu.edu/collections/catalog/unccmc00145-002-ff0003-002-016_0002/pages/unccmc00145-002-ff0003-002-016_0002#p

  46. AvatarMartha Grimson says: 1 comments

    This house is fascinating and so is the asking price! I’m of Realtor in Chapel Hill and Durham and love my house, but can’t stop looking at this one! Someone will have a wonderful time with and in this home. Wish there were more pics of the pool, etc. it seems to lack AC which would be a major expense since there is no duct work but worth the outlay, I think. Wiring and plumbing could be a big expense if not already upgraded. Has the hole in the kitchen ceiling been fixed? What happened? Pretty scary looking.

  47. AvatarJohn says: 1 comments

    The new owners are sharing the restoration of this beautiful home at minturnhouse.com

  48. Avatarslater says: 1 comments

    No one has mentioned the most important part of this renovation. The roof! Brookville green ludwici jamestown clay tile. circa 1925. It will need to be redone.

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