1868 Italianate – Franklin, IN

Added to OHD on 8/28/13   -   Last OHD Update: 4/12/20   -   45 Comments
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Franklin, IN 46131

  • $69,900 - $199,900*
  • 3 Bed
  • 1 Bath
  • 3142 Sq Ft
1868, Civil War, General Ulysses S. Grant was elected president, horsepower still referred to horse, and a family's home was truly its castle when this historical farmhouse was built. 16 acres of farmland make up for the numerous repairs needed to bring this home back to its original beauty. If you desire to recapture the joy of a gentler time.
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Brandon Warfield, Carpenter Realtors,
(800) 630-1727

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44 Comments on 1868 Italianate – Franklin, IN

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  1. Stacey says: 24 comments

    How absolutely beautiful! Although it needs a bit of work…. there is something so elegant in the way it has withstood the test of time. One of my favorites!

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  2. Bob H says: 82 comments

    Gorgeous but pretty certain this on comes w a ghost… Just a sense.

  3. says: 485 comments

    Very cool. This house was a time-capsule feel to it. I love the round arched windows

  4. Kimberly says: 1 comments

    Wow! I absolutely love this house! So many original features still intact – I hope whoever buys it treats it well.

  5. Nancy says: 182 comments

    Welcome back Kelly!
    Love this house.
    Brick, check, beautiful staircase, check, fireplaces everywhere, check, gorgeous windows, check. lovely property, check but…. what about the bathroom? Still, if I would only win the lotto!

  6. springsheep says: 72 comments

    a bit of work?

    I do like this style of house but beyond for me.

  7. John Shiflet says: 5363 comments

    Time capsule is quite appropriate in this case with the understanding that term means the passage of time has tread very lightly in this house. Ghosts? Wouldn’t surprise me in the least. While I appreciate the historical context provided by the listing, some elements in this house seem to pre-date the Civil War. The return gable ends harken back to the Greek Revival style as do some of the other details in this house. It would not surprise me to learn this house was “Italianated” around 1868 but in any case, the presence of the mid-19th century is still strongly felt in this one. With 16 acres…bring your horses, buggy, and beaver pelt top hat. If a bathroom were added I’d put it discreetly off to a side area and make it on the rustic/primitive side if possible. I’d make a summer type kitchen in a semi detached add-on structure. Without much effort, this really could be a museum house.

  8. lara janelara jane says: 485 comments
    OHD Supporter

    This poor old girl. I hope the right person comes along to breathe life back into her. She’s a dream.

  9. says: 485 comments

    I wonder what’s going on with all those fireplaces. I just noticed that none of them has a hearthstone…kinda looks like the just attached the mantels right to the plaster walls…and the house itself has no chimneys either. Weird.

  10. John Shiflet says: 5363 comments

    Hi Ryan,
    Where visible in the photographs, you may notice above the mantels are metal vent hole covers with one still attached to a vent pipe and a (gas?) heater of uncertain age. I suspect originally all of the hearths were open but given the nature of soft bricks and the lime mortars of the mid-19th century I speculate at some point (probably the last time it was re-roofed) the chimneys were taken down below the roof line and the hearths were bricked up and base board trim applied so some appear to be stuck on the walls. A bit of masonry work awaits the new owner(s)….

  11. nic says: 60 comments

    Like Kelly I have been out for a week or so, and am just now catching up on some of the Old House postings. This one caught my eye because my family has been in Franklin since 1924 and I know this house well. It has been For Sale By Owner for 2 year. A friend of mine was interested in the place when it first came on the market (for the first time ever), so I went to the local Historical Society records and thoroughly researched the place. I have spent two days looking for the old written notes of mine or the email report, but, alas, can find neither; so I can’t give you all the precise details and facts that I once had but can still fill you in on some general info.
    This was an early farm in the area. The wealthy farmer built this place and had 6 or 7 kids. Three of them never married and continued to live together in the place for the rest of their lives. The last spinster died about 1950. She will the house and farm to the next door neighbour who had been farmind the land and looking after them. The house has never been inhabited since the original family died out 60 years ago. The spinsters never updated the house either. I was surprised to see the listing say 1 bathroom. According to local lore indoor plumbing was never put in for either a bathroom or kitchen. You can still see the outdoor hand pump in one of the photos. Towards the end they did put in a bit of electricity. You can see a few conduits and outlets tacked to the walls. There is absolutely no wiring inside the walls and most rooms are not electrified at all. It is truly the time capsule museum that many of your readers have commented on. The farmer who owns it lives across the road so every week he would come over and mow the yard, so the setting is beautiful and has always been maintained. And yes, he did replace the roof.
    One more story; one of the spinsters used to attend the local Methodist Church and every Sunday my great grandfather would give her a ride back home in his Model T. When he would drop her off she would always say “Thank you, God Bless, I’m gonna remember you in my will”. Alas and alack, that didn’t happen or this place would be mine.

    • Bill Fleener says: 1 comments

      Some of your information is wrong. The house was lived in up till 1995 by Otho Pritchard. She did not will the house to the farmer down the road, it was Otho who did. I lived Next door to Otho from the time i was born till I moved out when I got married.

  12. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11890 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Reduced to $199,900!

  13. Joy says: 67 comments

    Found a little more information about this house on facebook:

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.603874362974403.1073741837.356940171001158&type=3

    From the facebook album:
    “It is a house that was built in 1868 for John Owens Sr. John Owens was the son of James Owens who received the 160 acre parcel from the US Government on March 5 1830. This house has always remained in the Owens family. We own it now and my husband is an Owens Descendant. We have John Owen’s will in our possession which is part of the abstract. John Owens died in 1868 before the house was completed. His will specified that the house was to be finished before any of the remaining money was distributed. The house is for sale and is located in Franklin Indiana at 5705 E 100 N and sits on 2 acres… It has 6 fireplace mantels, 8 closets, wrap back porch, herringbone brick floor in cellar, 2 sided fireplace in kitchen & dining room, 7 exterior doors, pantry and National Register eligible. interior is original and woodwork intact. no plumbing, no bath, no electric, city water & natural gas available. needs complete restoration.”

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  14. RosewaterRosewater says: 6045 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1875 Italianate cottage
    Noblesville, IN

    Agent has posted a couple of cool historic photos to the listing: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5705-E-100-N-Franklin-IN-46131/2111265699_zpid/

  15. John Shiflet says: 5363 comments

    This house remains one of the most intact mid-19th century homes ever posted on the OHD blog. It really deserves a purist restorer with a keen appreciation for history. Any modernizations done to the house should be as unobtrusive as possible. Best to keep the house close to its original appearance and not make major changes to interior walls and rooms. With the period photos, original owner’s will and family history, this is for all practical purposes truly a museum house. Too bad the State of Indiana could not acquire the property for use as a local history center or historical interpretive farm. Indiana Landmarks should be helping to find the right buyer for this rare period survivor.

  16. Joy says: 67 comments

    This house is definitely a time capsule.

    This is not mentioned in the realtor listing, but there is a family cemetery located under a small grove of trees in the field west of this house.

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=2214067
    Not sure if potential buyers would find this creepy or interesting or both.

    I live in the area and drove by the house; it is certainly neat but almost a bit sad.

    The house is also listed at $69,900 with 2 acres.
    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5705-E-100-N_Franklin_IN_46131_M43489-73868?row=3&ex=IN562240209

  17. John Shiflet says: 5363 comments

    Wow, at $69,900 with 2 acres that presents a lot of possibilities. Hope someone who appreciates the rich history of the property will comes forward at the lower price and will restore the house to its late 1860’s grandeur. It’s absolutely the kind of place that after restoration would be passed down from generation to generation.

  18. Connie says: 2 comments

    My husband and I own this house. The photos shown here are photos that we have taken and also shown are 2 original photos that we have in our possession. I just discovered this site accidentally while looking for another posting related to this property. I will be sharing the correct and any additional information in a few days.

  19. Shawn says: 1 comments

    Connie,

    It was/is my understanding that the house is all but sold, according to the listing agent. Is this true?? We were looking at the house before, to purchase, but stopped once we heard this. You didn’t mention anything in your post about it being sold, but the listing states “Pending Other”….. so I just have to ask: Is it still on the market?

  20. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11890 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Sold for $190,000.

  21. John Shiflet says: 5363 comments

    That’s good news because the house remains with its land. The new owners will have a house with history and largely unaltered since it was built. Congratulations and best wishes as they embark on their old house adventure.

  22. Connie says: 2 comments

    Yes, The house and 16 surrounding acres including the cemetery have been sold. The new owners plan to restore the house and they seem to be really excited. I didn’t want to mention it in my earlier post, because, until the papers are signed it was not sold. As our realtor said….he is the only one to ever sell this house in it’s entire history!

  23. Ella says: 3 comments

    I just stumbled across this site …… We are the new owners of this amazing piece of history. We are so excited to restore this treasure. I may be in over my head as this is my hobby … boyfriend is just the muscle when needed. But I have no intention of modernizing this gorgeous home and if I can make it into any kind of landmark I would be proud. And yes we are hoping there might be a ghost ! We can’t wait to hear all the stories and memories from this homestead and preserve it for years to come !!!! I promise it’s in good hands !

    • lara janelara jane says: 485 comments
      OHD Supporter

      Congrats, Ella! Please keep us posted and let us know if you start an album or blog of your progress!

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6045 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Good luck Ella! As Lara Jane mentioned, if you decide to post pictures we would ALL be very interested in seeing the house more fully as it is now, and as you make progress along the way. I suggest using FLICKR to post your digital images as it’s free and basically unlimited. If you do, leave another comment here with the link to your page, and I’m sure there will be more than a few folks interested to see them.. So glad someone who cares about preservation has ended up with this great house… Cheers!

    • MEGAN says: 1 comments

      Ella,
      I have been in love with this house since I moved to Franklin in 2006. I would love to help free of charge. Please contact me as I would love to see this beautiful house turn back to sparkles! 317-847-8259

  24. Nancy says: 182 comments

    Congratulations Ella! We live in Aurora IN and love Franklin. It’s a really neat town. Best of luck in your new adventure.

  25. joyjoy says: 67 comments

    My husband and I have driven by this house several times; curiously, it still sits there lonely and forlorn, untouched.

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6045 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Can’t be doing too much with THESE temps; not to mention no heat. 😉 Maybe Ella will update us soon.

      • Ella says: 3 comments

        You are both right….it has been too cold and I miss it … can’t wait for spring. It will look like this most likely for one more year. We are cleaning up the inside and saving our pennies for the roof. That is the biggest repair we think. We are also doing some research with the historical society about grants and other aid available. So we have deemed this the year of research and saving !! We are still so excited to restore this beautiful home !

        • BKGarrard says: 18 comments

          Ella, bless you and your boyfriend for rescuing this property!!! When I heard this property had sold, I was afraid someone had purchased it for the acreage only and would raze the house.
          I viewed this home in Sept 2013, and was truly amazed at how it appeared lost in time (no ductwork, no plumbing, and very little wiring). It was wonderful and a bit eerie. From what I could see via flashlights, the home is amazingly intact and the plaster was in excellent shape (someone has done a great job of keeping the roof in good repair over the years).
          While I decided this house was not the right fit for me, I am SO GLAD it spoke to you!
          Wishing you all the best as you continue this exciting adventure.

  26. Amy says: 1 comments

    Ella, this is a beautiful property. I can’t wait to see what you are able to do with it…would love to see any pictures that you have. What a great piece of history.

  27. nic says: 60 comments

    The latest update on the ghosts in this old house. Sounds like they are going to try and capitalize on it now instead of making it a traditional home. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d831l0_Amg0

  28. Karen says: 178 comments

    Any info on what’s happening with this property? No updates on their Facebook since 2016.

  29. HeatherM says: 19 comments

    Updated their Facebook page in April 2018! https://www.facebook.com/thecandlelighthouse/

  30. Dean says: 2 comments

    My name is Dean. My family built the house just east of Otto’s (as I always called him) when I was 4. My folks knew Otto for years as my aunt’s family farm the land east of his for generations. He was an educated man that never married.

    He taught me a lot about life and farming. I spent many a night sleeping over night in this house. Otto lived a very simple life with his books and radio. To be with him was like stepping back in time to a simpler life.

    One of my funniest favorite memories was Otto showed me a snake skin about 3′ long he had found. I ask him where he said inside the house. A few days later he found the snake. Under the cover of his bed 🙂 Needless to say a snake check was done all the time after that.

    I read some of the things posted which need correcting. Otto live in his home until the early 90’s. He never had an outhouse. The McAlpin family had help Otto farm for years. Glenn and Connie look after Otto until he began ill. He past peacefully in a nursing home and was laid to rest with his mom and dad. Otto never curse or spoke bad of anyone. Closest he came was saying “Sam hill”. Otto and this house hold a special place in my heart. I still go out there to just enjoy the area. His land is where my bothers, sister, cousins and friends ran, played and grew up. I wish others could be as fortunate as we were to have him in our lives 🙂

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    • BKGarrard says: 18 comments

      Thanks so much for your post and the information, Dean!
      Since Otto never had an outhouse, I’m assuming there was a bathroom inside the house. When I viewed it in September 2013, there was no evidence (that I saw) of a bathroom inside nor any indoor plumbing whatsoever (for the kitchen, etc.). Would you mind clarifying further?
      Thanks so much.

  31. Ella says: 3 comments

    Happy 2019 from the Candlelight house. We have had a great year cleaning up and un-boarding the house and took the year to settle into our pole barn home out here so we are ready to start working on the old house. I have started by contacting Indiana Landmarks to learn all I can from them. I am sure we need some kind of engineering review for structural / foundation issues. But I am pretty sure the roof has to be first. Does anyone have any ideas on a good place to start or anyone I can contact? Our plan is to do as much preservation / restoration as possible and not modernize it at this time.

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    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6045 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Yes! You can start by having me down to drool over the place as is before you get going with the preservation work. Heheheh. Actually not kidding. I would LOVE to see this house. Kelly can give you my e-mail if you’re kind enough to indulge me. 🙂

      As to suggestions, you are sure on the right track; and Mark Dollase at Landmarks is a great place to start. He can give you all the referrals you need for the best old house folks around in these parts.

      https://www.indianalandmarks.org/about/staff/

      SO excited for you! 🙂

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