1836 – New Hartford, CT

Added to OHD on 6/2/11   -   Last OHD Update: 4/12/20   -   29 Comments
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60 Winchester Rd, New Hartford, CT 06057

  • $99,000
  • 5 Bed
  • 3 Bath
  • 4356 Sq Ft
  • 2.4 Ac.
Contractors Special - Home needs restoration - but has been a stunning 1836 antique colonial on gorgeous grounds complete with a 30x60 post and beam barn for horses, business or storage. (2 Parcels included). Will not qualify for financing - no heating system, Roof needs replacing, interior has water damage ect. All offers must be CASH. Subject to probate approval. No Showings after 6:00 PM

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  1. Austin says: 7 comments

    This house came back on the market, and I just looked at this house this afternoon. Let me just say, it has come into COMPLETE disrepair since these pictures were taken back in 2010. Such a shame. Not even worth fixing it up again unless it was sold for nearly free. the roof is about to fall in on the 3rd floor, and that is just the beginning of its issues

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11798 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      That’s a shame. I got an email a while back from someone who were saying they were buying it, I guess it didn’t work out for them. Thanks for the update, unless this one sells soon it doesn’t sound like the house will make it much longer.

  2. Heather Burnett says: 2 comments

    Please beware of people who look at houses and say they are in really bad shape. I own an 1830’s home, and I was told all kinds of stories about our house before we looked at it and bought it, including that the staircase was falling in. When we looked at our home, the stairway didn’t even creak when we stepped on it- far from falling in. We’ve done massive overhauls of every major system in our house. Some people have the idea that they can go in an old home, paint and redecorate and move right in- you can’t. I say, if you’re interested in this old beauty, look at it and judge for yourself. It seems like a reasonable price for the area- even for a house that needs works.

  3. Austin says: 7 comments

    Heather, if your comment was directed toward me and my evaluation of this house, I would just like to say that I had no intention of misleading anyone. Trust me, I am in no way misrepresenting this house. These pictures are in no way shape or form representative of its actual state. I can probably climb through the hole in the rotting roof. Someone completely smoked out the interior of the house with a wood stove that was not vented properly. It just goes to show what can happen in a few years of sitting vacant, since those pictures were taken 2010. That being said, the basement looked nice and dry. Someone could certainly bring it back, but they would have to be interested in investing an incredible amount of money. Certainly more than the the property would even be worth in a livable state. It would be a complete labor of love, knowingly sinking money into it that will never be recouped.

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  4. Steve Bell says: 2 comments

    Do the rugs convey?

  5. Austin says: 7 comments

    unfortunately the rugs are all gone. The pictures in the listing are almost 5 years old now, and the house looks nothing like that on the inside. such a shame. I doubt it will survive the winter. My guess is that the roof will collapse

  6. Melissa says: 235 comments

    I can’t believe the house looked like that just 5 years ago and now it’s basically a tear down, even by “our” standards, based on Austin’s comments. So sad.

    Steve, my thoughts were the same – especially seeing the orientals piled upon one another – reminded me of my grandmother’s house.

  7. RossRoss says: 2473 comments
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    1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
    Emporia, KS

    Wow. $455K down to $99K? That is some price drop!

    Even with a hole in the roof and other issues, this place well might be restorable.

    It looks really cool.

  8. KarenB says: 236 comments

    Though I’m not from Missouri, I subscribe to the saying, “have to see to believe” that it is so far gone as to not merit restoration. As they say, one man’s trash is another’s treasure. I have restored an old farm house that some would have torn down but now it’s lovely and I would definitely triple my investment if I chose to sell. The area this house is in and the land and barn are probably worth close to the asking price….just guessing.

  9. joyjoy says: 67 comments

    The 2010 photos are great. It is amazing to think that this house went from the photos of 2010 to a collapsing, “endangered property” in less than 5 years.

    The original price on this house in 2009 was $549,900.

  10. Austin says: 7 comments

    For the hell of it, I think I will go snap some pictures for you guys if I have a chance in the next week or so (It is about 20 mins from my house, and about 10 mins from work). With all of the snow we have gotten, I wouldn’t be surprised if the roof caved in, we have gotten about 3 feet of snow in the last 2 weeks. For 99K, the land and barn are worth that!

  11. Joseph says: 3 comments

    Hi Folks,
    I stumbled upon this site the other day and saw the posts regarding this property. I live nearby and I’m very familiar with it and can fill in some history and hopefully clarify some speculations and assumptions made in the posts.

    It was known, through historical land records, that Royal Watson built this house. The research indicated that Royal built it in 1852 for his son James. Royal lived in the neighboring house which he had built in 1822. However, the date stone on the James Watson house, indicates 1836 and James would only have been 11 yrs old at that time. So there’s a little bit of a mystery and asks the question why Royal, who lived in the large neighboring house, would in 1836 build another large house on the same property? These 2 brick houses along with almost 300 acres, were jointly owned up until 1961. (This research was done by a town resident who also lives in yet another one of houses built by the Watson family…I might add that his research was very detailed and extensive.)

    The James Watson House itself has gone through at least 3 significant style renovations (that I’m aware of) in its history. I’m not sure what the original house looked like, but given the style of the other brick houses in the area which were built by the Watson’s, I would tend to believe it was a very simple style without much ornate details. I’ve seen a photo of the house as a very ornate italianate-style and also an exquisite Greek revival. Its current form bears no resemblance to this greek revival style. Here is a link to some pics (the first 6 thumbnails) of the house circa 1915 when it was known as “Glenwood Manor”. It was owned by Helen and Lester delGarcia from 1907-1915 . http://www.demarsimages.com/Towns/New-Hartford-CT/Residences-2/12233167_8ZvXFp/1913891897_tVfsT58#!i=871641319&k=cdXxZqt. Note the full wrap porch and balcony…also the windows are not the current floor-to-ceiling . Some of the columns, railings and entry are still stored in the barn. The next photo that I’ve seen is circa 1942 in which the house resembles its current appearance. Gone are the wooden porch and full wrap balcony.

    As far as its current condition and how it got there, unfortunately it’s a not too uncommon story. The owner fell ill and did not have the income to support upkeep of the property over the years. The photos above in 2009/2010 don’t reveal the level of disrepair the house was falling into and the asking price of 455k was unrealistic based on the condition at that time. The owner passed away 2yrs ago and the house has been vacant since.

    The house is still standing and the roof has not fallen in. There is also no hole in the roof for anyone to crawl through. Does it leak … quite a bit, but it’s also very clear in all the listings that it needs a complete new roof. Does it need a serious amount of money and work…you bet. I couldn’t answer the questions… ‘is it a tear-down or can it be restored?’. But I believe, the current price makes either choice viable…it just depends upon what the potential buyer wants out of the property. I would love to see the place restored. Even if the house is taken down and something new is built, they would start with a beautiful 3.45 acre parcel (house is on 2.45ac and barn on 1ac) and a great barn. BTW, the barn is described as a post and beam…in reality, the lower structure is post and beam but the upper barn is a truss style. The entire upper level is 30×60 fully open space (no posts) with about 25′ height to the rafters!

    Austin, I’m not sure how you know specifics about the house and the personal property associated with it, but I don’t think the information you have is accurate. I also would think that it’s not a good idea to stop by and start snapping pictures without notifying the realtor that you would like to view the property. Given all the snow we’ve had, I suspect that there’s a fair amount of ice and snow on the grounds. With all respect and I appreciate the sincere interest but, I liken it to someone showing up at your house or mine unannounced, walking around taking pictures.

    It’s great to see people who are genuinely enthusiastic about these old homes and historic properties and truly care about preserving them. I’d be happy to answer, as best I can, any questions anyone has about the James Watson House. And apologies for such a long post. 🙂

    • RossRoss says: 2473 comments
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      1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
      Emporia, KS

      Wow. Great post, Joseph. Thank you.

      The image link you provided is fascinating. The house is so pristine. And so different!

      It is nice to learn that the house may well still be a viable restoration project. Thank you.

    • Austin says: 7 comments

      Hi Joseph, thanks for that info, certainly some neat history

      I have been in the house twice in the past couple years contemplating purchasing, but ended up moving a couple of towns over when we got a good deal on a 1913 craftsman. I remember under the tarp on the roof was a large section missing/rotted, maybe my mind is playing tricks on me regarding how bad the rot actually was, trying to convince me out of it! at any rate, once this winter’s snow melts, it is going to do another number on the interior. I wish they would update the pictures with more detailed ones of the current condition. I am sure many people were interested based on the pictures, and then completely let down once they saw it in person

  12. KarenB says: 236 comments

    Joseph, so lucky for us that you stumbled by and thank you for taking the time to clarify the condition of the house and provide it’s history. I do hope someone rescues it….ah if I only had hundreds of years to live and unlimited funds for all the neglected jewels!

  13. Joseph says: 3 comments

    I know what you mean, Karen.
    Please make no mistake regarding the condition of the house. It is in severe disrepair and as we all know, water can do significant damage in a short period of time. The way I see it, and I’m not a builder, but at that price, to tear it down and build new might be about the same cost as restoring…and still be valued appropriately for the area. I’m not sure it would be viable for an investor looking to turn it quickly given the current real estate market, but for someone looking to live there, either option wouldn’t be out of the question. Again, this is just my opinion…I’m not a builder nor in real estate.

  14. Austin says: 7 comments

    Joseph, one more thing. Do you know the age of the barn? I am curious if it is indeed original back to when the house was built

  15. Joseph says: 3 comments

    The barn was definitely built later…the timbers are circular sawn. I would guess somewhere around 1880? Also, the lower supporting structure is built very differently then the upper, main barn. There was another smaller barn butted up against this one. I’ve seen pictures and have spoken with someone who grew up there during the 30’s and 40’s who confirmed this. Not sure you can make it out in the pic above, but you can trace the gabled end of the old barn from the beams of light coming through the side. It’s clearly seen when your inside the barn.

  16. Jocelyn says: 3 comments

    The house was purchased in April and is being restored. The cupola needs to go, unfortunately, as saving it would be far too costly. There are men on the roof as I type this…..or what’s left of the roof. The whole top of the house is coming off, rafters included, and is being rebuilt with a pitch in hopes of preventing water leakage. Chimneys are in the process of being rebuilt. The buyer actually had to pour footings in the basement to add support columns. Half of the ceilings are out due to water damage, and metal braces have been added to the main support beams on the first and second floors. Townsfolk are happy that the house has not been torn down.

  17. Austin says: 7 comments

    That is awesome! I saw much work going on when I passed by the other day. I had a feeling the restoration was going to be very indepth if the new owners chose to do so

  18. Slroulette23Slroulette23 says: 158 comments
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    Stunning! And all those carpets in image 10…

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