Nov. 22, 2019 Link Exchange

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  1. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 881 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Hey folks, I’m currently in the hospital, waiting to go to a room. Some bacterial thing.

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  2. EileenMEileenM says: 288 comments
    Camillus, NY

    Hope it’s nothing serious and that you’re up and about very soon.

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  3. MWMW says: 837 comments

    Kelly, hope it isn’t much and you get better soon! Please don’t worry about us. Take the day off and get better asap!!

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  4. Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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    1980/2010 board & batten modern

    Greetings All! Here are a few that I found interest in:

    1919, Trenton, TN, 84,900
    Lovely bones, inlaid floors, beautiful windows and doors
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/716-S-High-St-Trenton-TN-38382/41298748_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=47eac2c1-a839-493d-9caf-7ebc52359a8d~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1935, Rockport, MA, 675,000
    From the listing: Rockport granite exterior from the local quarries… damaged due to frozen pipes last winter
    A lot has been brought down to the studs, but lots of great woodwork remains.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/60-Phillips-Ave-Rockport-MA-01966/56957755_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=e40a4930-25c0-48c4-a456-572b43e050f4~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1903, Lancaster, MA, 500,000
    Impressive entrance (appears not to be in use from the interior shot). Interior is in progress. So what I like about this is the exterior and inside all that lovely wood work. Appears to have some older baths, so I am assuming this building held the horses, carriages and staff as well.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/0-Hilltop-Rd-Lancaster-MA-01523/2087143889_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=8a221f8d-4b3b-4cc5-8f78-46b6ce15f4b2~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1920, Port Jefferson, NY, 475,000
    I like to imagine what this Tudor once was and hope that somebody can come along to save it from neglect and miss-use.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/21-Bridge-Ln-Port-Jefferson-NY-11777/59441877_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=c5a4a604-b1e9-40b1-a9d0-b4625c69aa29~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1911, Redlands, CA, 975,000
    The listing has me a bit concerned. I do not get HGTV, but someone named Brett Waterman wants to restore this home on his show. They do call him a preservationist in the listing, but he is also associated with a mainstream cable station….
    Nice Arts and Crafts house. Perhaps the original colors are intact, but it seems too bright to me-too painted over on the interior. It would be nice to see it brought back to something darker, more earthy in nature. My favorite part of the listing are the many old photos included. We literally get to see the house from the ground up, starting with “6/5/11 1st day excavation”. Neat, neat, neat
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1120-W-Fern-Ave-Redlands-CA-92373/17264385_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=1fd890dc-055c-4d02-ab36-9612e3abc1a3~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1960, Orange, CA, 1,095,000
    From the listing: There are a mere 343 Eichler homes in the city of Orange and of those, 140 make up the highly desirable Fairhaven tract.
    Open modern spaces, courtyard, neat collection of furniture in the house now-easy on the eye
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3824-E-Casselle-Ave-Orange-CA-92869/25179127_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=a5d068ce-4b1d-4938-a080-0883262ffba7~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1830, Madison, GA, 699,000
    Neat light fixtures in the public rooms, along with elegant molding, tall doors and windows. With a build date of 1830, is the mansard roof a later addition?
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/292-Academy-St-Madison-GA-30650/300518232_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=818a3717-893e-475a-a0a9-b8286176f033~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1693, Sag Harbor, NY, 1,585,000
    Pretty little house, nicely done
    My favorite image for the old wooden walls and the fireplace:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/64-Union-St-Sag-Harbor-NY-11963/32720467_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=a0818097-4617-413d-99ed-af1f41effc6a~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8&mmlb=g,6

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/64-Union-St-Sag-Harbor-NY-11963/32720467_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=a0818097-4617-413d-99ed-af1f41effc6a~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1947, Fredericksburg, VA, 1,385,000
    Water intake pumping station, turned into a home. History and re-use nicely done.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/301-Sophia-St-Fredericksburg-VA-22401/12251275_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=46fee1ca-44c1-4f87-a616-5025c3659592~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    1930, Blakely, GA, 69,000
    Old place in need of some hefty love.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/565-N-Main-St-Blakely-GA-39823/234790785_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=5cf599d8-5089-425b-96c1-fea96d889b81~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

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    • natira121natira121 says: 525 comments
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      1877 Vernacular
      Columbia River Gorge, WA

      As always, a very nice bunch of listings. And you always do such a good job with your descriptions. *smile*

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    • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
      1930 carriage house
      Bethlehem, CT

      Some great ones on the list, Kimberly. That Port Jefferson house is like a siren calling my name. I’d be VERY happy there. Port Jeff is a wonderful small town that I flirted briefly moving to and doing a reverse commute by ferry. Alas, too impractical but an all-around nice spot to live. Those construction photos of the Redlands house are a trip! Waterman’s show is actually instructive and out of any tv renovator, his work is by far the best. I don’t have cable either, but I’ve downloaded the series from Itunes, and the work is impressive. I wonder what old Eichler would think of the prices his low-cost houses are now fetching, seems pretty amazing. That pumping station is an awfully cool renovation. I admire the vision that person had to create what it’s become.

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    • John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 5353 comments
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      1889 Eastlake Cottage
      Fort Worth, TX

      The Trenton, Tennessee house is a late (post 1900) example of the Queen Anne style with mixed in “Colonial” details as were often seen in post 1900 Queen Anne cottages. As for the alleged 1919 date. I’d like to see proof as the interior and exterior details accord with a 1900-1909 construction date making it at least a decade earlier. A good thing, as by 1919 (end of WWI) Queen Anne style homes were effectively extinct and the fancy mantels and floors weren’t popular anymore. With the asking price around $85K, why does the listing state: “This home last sold for $15,000 in December 2017. The Zestimate for this house is $16,462, which has decreased by $114 in the last 30 days.” Having that posted right under the asking price makes a difficult sale almost impossible. I should know, our Zestimate is less than half of our asking price yet the house next door sold to a developer for $200,000 more than we are asking for ours. Some prospective buyers have reacted with righteous indignation to our asking price not realizing that we are actually below our closest real world comps. Using mathematical computer generated algorithms to determine individual property values/prices is a poor substitute for first hand human knowledge. I like the Queen Anne because restored it would have a lot of charm. Thanks for sharing.

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    • JkleebJkleeb says: 187 comments
      Seattle, WA

      I’d love to take on the Rockport house—lots of great features remaining—especially the toilet seat in the grey tiled bathroom;)

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    • Anne M.Anne M. says: 705 comments
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      1972 not a dream.
      Hopkinton, MA

      Wow I love that Sag Harbor cottage! I had saved the Lancaster carriage house, too for this week. This is the main house it was a part of: https://www.captivatinghouses.com/2018/11/26/1903-mansion-on-52-acres-for-sale-in-lancaster-massachusetts/

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    • JefsndyJefsndy says: 138 comments
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      1915 Craftsman
      Orange, CA

      Hi Kimberly,
      No concern required! Brett Waterman knows what he is doing and saying. His show is featured on DIY network. He is top in his field and does the right thing. He has no connection to this home other than sharing it with awhile back hoping that someone would purchase it so he could restore it. He has a historic mansion in Redlands that he is currently restoring that will someday be stunning. We actually drove by this home a few weeks ago to take a look. The street is a bit busy, it is not surrounded by other historic homes, and this home requires so much work. Redlands has some wonderful historic homes. Many scattered throughout the city. I live in Orange-and am lucky to have many friends with Eichlers. They were just added to the CA historic register and we just had a home tour of them recently. Great news for CA. Modern is quite the trend right now-so prices have skyrocketed. This listing is located within a very nice tract-one of the 3 Eichler tracts in Orange.

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      • Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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        1980/2010 board & batten modern

        Sandy after hearing what and Don have say about this fellow from HGTV, I may have to find some Utube on him. Perhaps his intention is to take away the mainstreaming that has already occurred.

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        • Architectural ObserverArchitectural Observer says: 835 comments
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          1918 Bunkhouse
          WestOfMiddleOfNowhere, KS

          You have good reason to be concerned about both Brett Waterman’s dedication to restoration specifically and mainstream television’s value to educate in general. For people familiar with museum-quality restorations, Brett Waterman will fall short while people impressed with Chip and Joanna will find him to be quite professional.

          As with many things in life, the truth usual is found somewhere in the middle.
          Someone pointed the show out to me last year so I decided to take a look and viewed the first episode of “Restored” online.

          I found it to be a mix of good and bad… much more kind to historic buildings than “Fixer Upper”, etc., but still a very long way from true restoration. I do appreciate that the program shows windows being renovated rather than replaced! That’s impressive.

          Brett Waterman is touted as a “restoration expert” yet he refers to a battered porch pier as a “pilaster” several times in the first show. Right off the bat I’ve lost confidence in his level of expertise. He also says his goal is to “return a home to the way it was intended to be” and then proceeds to add elements which were never there originally (battered pier, ceiling beams, L-shaped bench).

          He also takes an interesting Tudor-style entry door form a salvage yard and restyles it rather than using an actual Craftsman style door. He’s ready to do demo the very next day after meeting the owner and seeing the house for the first time. I could go on, but you get the idea.

          The seventh item on the list of the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for Restoration states:

          Replacement of missing features from the restoration period will be substantiated by documentary and physical evidence. A false sense of history will not be created by adding conjectural features, features from other properties, or by combining features that never existed together historically.

          Just because funding isn’t coming from the feds doesn’t make it OK to call a remodeling or renovation a restoration. Words do have precise meanings! When everyone on TV is an “expert” and remodeling equals “restoration”, both words have been cheapened. I’d be much happier if programs used the correct terms so as not to confuse viewers and muddy our language. The host is very good at what he does, but it is still remodeling…he’s just more conscientious about maintaining stylistic integrity and retaining more original features than the other shows do.

          I would love to see a program on TV that actually restores buildings in an historically accurate manner – wouldn’t that be fun! That will never happen, however, because true restoration takes time — lots of it — and TV production needs to happen FAST.

          The show still gets my admiration for being on the right track… it’s a start.

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          • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
            1930 carriage house
            Bethlehem, CT

            Honestly, AO, while I understand your beefs, who really wants to live in a museum recreation? No one, that’s who. So we strive to make a historic house reasonably function to modern times. We all have to cut corners. Your all or nothing approach seems not particularly doable at this moment.

            I’m not trying to be a pain in the ass, but we have to remember, to preserve what we can, and not alienate the general public. Being preservation-minded is making sure that more buildings are kept than demolished.

            I understand being exacting. But we have to understand where we are today in regards to what people desire in homes. Do we forgo modern luxuries entirely? There is a balance out there. I do understand where you’re coming from, but you’re being quite the hardliner that won’t move people into a house they can live in in a modern way. We’ve accepted 17th and 18th-century houses with modern plumbing and other niceties. Houses evolve. I am not advocating for great rooms and white paint everywhere, but current tastes prevail. We have to be thoughtful about what should and can be renovated and what should be preserved.

            • Architectural ObserverArchitectural Observer says: 835 comments
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              1918 Bunkhouse
              WestOfMiddleOfNowhere, KS

              I think you misunderstand me. I am not advocating for precise, museum-quality restorations for everyone. My “beef” is with television programs which give the mantle of “expert” to their hosts and imply that the words restore, renovate and remodel all mean exactly the same thing. They don’t.

              Of course I understand the need for balance. I live in a contrived mock-up of a house… built in 1918 but we’ve added all kinds of historically inaccurate stuff to it, turning it into a faux-Folk Victorian fantasy. The difference is that I’m not calling it a “restoration” and I don’t label myself an “expert”.

              People who truly want to learn about restoration look to these types of television shows for guidance. Often what they are told is just plain incorrect and viewers are left with the idea that you can rip out original features from a house, alter its intended appearance, and still call it a restoration. A restoration is what you see at places like Monticello, and it is an on-going process there.

              Television could do a much better job at educating people if it chose to, but it is much quicker, easier, and more lucrative to not make that effort. Going to mainstream television to learn about restoration is like going to McDonald’s to experience fine cuisine.

              Too frequently television programs such as these are not “thoughtful about what should and can be renovated and what should be preserved. Rather, the emphasis seems to be upon making people discontent with the things they have so that they will be inspired to replace or alter (rather than repair or restore) them. A primary goal of such shows is to stimulate the economy by encouraging people spend money on replacing things they already have and sadly, to the detriment of old houses everywhere, it works.

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              • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
                1930 carriage house
                Bethlehem, CT

                A.O. I apologize if I offended, I feel my comments now come off a tad flippant, which was entirely not my intent. You’re definitely quite the scholar, and I’ve learned much from your posts.

                I think my concern comes in the day to day world, of working in the design field and having to fight every day to educate clients on what they have and persuading them to listen to me long enough not to rip out walls, to save what they have to see things in a different light than what is shown on HGTV, home of open concept everything, and make it new and pretty much the same as every new build.

                It can be grueling, and I think Waterman’s show is accessible and educates people in a way that This Old House did for me in the earliest of its days. It pushed me to delve further into the preservation movement and see why things were done the way they were in the past. I think he is the very best of the TV renovators out there, and he is watched by many giving them the antidote to shows like The Property Brothers and Restored By The Fords. We have to make sure we’re not shouting into the void and hold up shows that are watched by a large audience as a window into the world of preservation. In my experience, anyone wanting a more exacting restoration realizes that TV renovators are not the be all end all.

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                • Architectural ObserverArchitectural Observer says: 835 comments
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                  1918 Bunkhouse
                  WestOfMiddleOfNowhere, KS

                  Thanks, and no offense taken! None of us would have to work as hard to educate clients and others about what they have in their possession if television did a better job!

                  It’s an amazingly powerful medium which influences people far more than most would be comfortable in admitting. Imagine, for example, if the vast majority of home renovation shows stressed working with existing and original materials, placing a strong emphasis on stylistic integrity, history, and historic preservation.

                  I guarantee you that if those concepts were televised with the same intensity that the gut-and-start-over crowd now enjoys, things would be very different. People would be clamoring to get on board and ape what was currently fashionable on television.

                  That’s the problem in a nutshell; encouraging responsible retention of useful materials does not sell as many commercials or newly-manufactured products. Programs with the potential to truly change people’s way of thinking and actually educate (rather than indoctrinate) will therefore remain in the minority. Sigh.

                  We have to remember that many TV personalities are not cast in their roles because they represent the very best in their respective fields, but because they have the right personality and appearance to grow and maintain a following. In spite of that, these shows do indeed provide a service in that they are a “gateway” and expose more people to the basic concepts of design and construction than might be obtained without them.

                  TV is not entirely evil; it could just be a LOT better. 🙂

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          • Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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            1980/2010 board & batten modern

            AO, thank you for your thoughts here, I sure do, as always appreciate them. You add a balance that is helpful to the conversation and why we are here.

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    • MaggieMayMaggieMay says: 45 comments
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      1945 Craftsman
      Athens, TN

      I love the water pumping station! What a cool find! Thanks for sharing!!

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    • Cathy F.Cathy F. says: 2187 comments
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      1920 Colonial Revival
      Upstate/Central, NY

      Love the whole Rockport, ME house! Hoping it will all be properly restored.
      The exterior of the Port Jefferson Tudor is cool. As it its fp.
      And the Redlands house has lots of nice features.

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    • RosewaterRosewater says: 5609 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      All super interesting, Kimberly – thank you.

      The Rockport, MA, UMC, inter-war, “proper house”, is SUPERB. Pity the loss of much of that gorgeous, original, oak flooring; but no matter. I might harvest some of it from lesser bedrooms on 2 to replace the losses. This breed of house really is the very finest ever produced in this country. I hope I have the opportunity to inhabit one of them one of these days. Of all of the great details there, the wood supply closet off of the service stair landing, through to the chamber, is SO rad! Dig it.
      https://photos.zillowstatic.com/uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152/ISf0dijirlm7cz0000000000.webp

      The Madison, GA house is mmmmmmmm GORGEOUS. Good grief. What a pad. I sure hope those kitchen people weren’t the ones who painted ALL of the wood work. May they inhabit tract houses for the rest of their lives if so! 😉 Heheheh. LOVE the way the 19teens owners retained the original gasoliers, converted, and dropped below the new electric fixtures in the principal rooms. Wow – what a great look in those TALL, tall, tall, rooms. The floor length, jib windows, and elegant French doors, also serve to accent the SPLENDID proportions of those spaces. Sigh…
      https://photos.zillowstatic.com/uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152/IS3rtr2ft8mdfc0000000000.webp
      and
      https://photos.zillowstatic.com/uncropped_scaled_within_1536_1152/ISb1re95u1zf1c0000000000.webp
      An absolutely spectacular property; even despite recent poor choices.

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    • Angie boldly going nowhereAngie boldly going nowhere says: 162 comments
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      The 1947, Fredericksburg, VA water intake pumping station now a home is just so magical as to be almost a dream. I positively love it and what a glorious day to take photos. How peaceful it looks, trees, sky and water — everything is perfect, inside and out. It is so uniquely different and I LOVE uniquely different.

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  5. SherryLynnSherryLynn says: 70 comments
    Marion, AR

    Oh no!!! I hope you get better!!

  6. dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
    1930 carriage house
    Bethlehem, CT

    Oh boy, Kelly. Hope you’re out and on the mend soon.

  7. dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
    1930 carriage house
    Bethlehem, CT

    Well, since the show must go on, I’ll show you what I’ve found this week. I’ve headed out from the hills some this week too since there were very few new old houses that captured my interest.

    First up is a 1779 Cape in Colebrook, Ct listed for $144k. This is a solid bargain in my opinion. I’m not sure what happened here, looks like someone started some renovations and stopped? I always enjoy a Colonial-era house that had renovations in the 30s, they usually had a keen eye for detail. I think with a little spit and polish, this place could be magazine ready. That deck needs to go through. Any carpenter that adds a deck to an old house should be horsewhipped.

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/52-Riverton-Rd_Colebrook_CT_06021_M44672-18611

    Here’s a 1929 stone Colonial Revival in North Haven, Ct for $725k. I’m kind of digging the murky trim color on the exterior. Original baths and I don’t even hate the 80s kitchen.

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1130-Ridge-Rd_North-Haven_CT_06473_M46048-34646?view=qv

    This 1704 Colonial in Durham Ct has been remarkably well preserved. It honestly boggles my mind that we are so lucky to have houses like this still existing after 300 plus years and that some of us get to live in them every day. For $289k, it can be yours.

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/239-Main-St_Durham_CT_06422_M34444-89550

    Here’s one I can’t quite figure out. At first glance, this looks like a 1920 Foursquare in Guilford, Ct listed for $269k. There’s a very Victorian staircase and porches for days. Whatever it is, there is strong potential here. No pictures of the kitchen or baths, but based on the rest of the house, I sense vintage goodness. Those 3 pane French doors are giving me LIFE, as the kids say.

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/376-State-St_Guilford_CT_06437_M48503-30751

    And just because you all likely know my penchant for weird foreclosures, here is a 1940 ranch castle in Holmes Ny, listed for $180k. This wackadoodle of a house makes no sense and I love it. Looks like someone was in the midst of a remodel here and ran out of steam, but imagine the possibilities here.

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/35-Nicholson-Rd_Holmes_NY_12531_M30698-73434?ex=NY2807079843

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    • ddbackerddbacker says: 491 comments
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      1971 Uninspired split-level
      Prairie Village, KS

      I am equally boggled by the 17th and 18th century survivors. They’ve escaped fire, nor’easters, development, redevelopment, general neglect and a hundred other things. Thanks for posting, dwr. Oh, and get well soon, Kelly. Looking at old houses is not the same without you.

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      • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
        1930 carriage house
        Bethlehem, CT

        I appreciate your remarks a lot, DD. I’m sort of out of step here at times. Victorians seem to be the big thing around here. I gather what I find interesting, and I know often they are a bit out of whack for the audience. I am fascinated more by the goofy houses that have no provenance, Mansions usualy hold little appeal. Instructive in a design sense sure, but give me a house with aspirations. I like an underdog.

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        • tcmchickietcmchickie says: 60 comments
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          TX

          Give me the wackadoodles any day of the week! They help refresh my Victorian-loving palate and remind me of the importance of whimsy to a house and its owner! 🙂

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    • RosewaterRosewater says: 5609 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Hey Don. Thanks’ for posting.

      I for sure agree about the exterior accent color at North Haven. It is a very nice, subtle compliment to the quality stone work. Great bath too!
      https://ap.rdcpix.com/719d37462ffb87f28d582e996ddc982el-m4258952032xd-w1020_h770_q80.jpg
      Tight, but deeeeluxe.
      Overall, a QUALITY house. Worth every dime.

      The Guilford house most of all caught my attention. I’m pretty sure that what you are seeing there is a late period, (1880 – 85), simple, bracketed Italianate box, three up three down, with an attached kitchen ell; which was Classi-lonial-ised during the Edwardian period. God only knows what happened after that – and when. The Queen Anne stair configuration, with those later period, Italianate newels is one good tell.
      https://ap.rdcpix.com/79adc65f466335f4320f961965f98eabl-m3722984394xd-w1020_h770_q80.jpg
      I love sun porches; but – too much of a good thing? Sure would hate to heat that sucker – sans external, alt-fuels, boiler.
      This is just the kind of pic i love to see:
      https://ap.rdcpix.com/79adc65f466335f4320f961965f98eabl-m3215103870xd-w1020_h770_q80.jpg Heheheh.
      The thing has, kind of, the feel of a cheesy, summer camp lodge. Heheheh.
      Cool find. 🙂

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      • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
        1930 carriage house
        Bethlehem, CT

        Jay, that was exactly what was bugging me about the Guilford house, those Italianate newel posts that push the house further back in time. If it is as you say, this was a deeply unfashionable or at least outdated house when it was built. All in all, still quite an appealing place. Normally, I’d be all for ripping out those sunporches and turning them back into an open space, but this is one of the rare exceptions that I’d just leave alone. I had a feeling you’d be one of the few that would enjoy that kooky wallpaper as much as I do.

        Hope you have that hole in the ceiling fixed, gettin’ chilly!

        • RosewaterRosewater says: 5609 comments
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          1875 Italianate cottage
          Noblesville, IN

          Heheheh. Oh yeah, new attic access finished and on to other projects: though not before I kicked an 8′ ladder out from under me, (standing on top of it like an ABSOLUTE moron), and fell through it 10″+ to the floor. Ouch. I deserved MUCH worse than I got for that genius move – that’s for sure. God was very kind to me; and I’m grateful. Note to self = LADDER SAFETY. 🙂

          The stair is for sure an oddball, but it does look original. I mean, who would re-use old newels at that point, and why would there be two? That John Waters wall paper with the crazy fireplace = what a shot! Heheheh.

          Hey, check out these rad doors I clipped this week. They’re in a big, expensive, stylistically insane, house in Richmond, KY which is otherwise not very interesting – IMO.
          https://www.oldhousedreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/richmond-ky-1890.jpeg
          Here’s the link to the house.
          https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/419-W-Main-St-Richmond-KY-40475/116025610_zpid/

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          • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
            1930 carriage house
            Bethlehem, CT

            The doors are nice, but wowsa, that stained glass window above the fireplace in the foyer is pretty spectacular. Engineering innovations like that always impress me. Are upholstered showers a new trend I am unaware of? I’ll take a hard pass if so.

            Ladders can be tricky. Please try not to kill yourself with one again. I’ve managed to do similar things myself, as I come from a long and proud line of clumsy daredevils.

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  8. BethHBethH says: 213 comments
    1999 Dutchess County, NY

    I’m sorry to hear that – hope they clear it up for you fast!

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  9. CharlesBCharlesB says: 481 comments
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    1846 Gothic/Greek Revival
    NY

    Kelly, you’re in the best place you could be if something’s wrong. Hope they fix you up in short order!

    Here’s a Federal in Batavia, one of the most historic towns in Western New York, priced at $216,000. They show a date of 1809, but that’s the year the original owner showed up in town as a 20-year-old. I’m sure it took him a few years to launch his career to the point where he could build such a fine home:

    https://www.homesnap.com/NY/Batavia/4-Mix-Place

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  10. SonofSyossetSonofSyosset says: 58 comments
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    1798 Federal/Georgian
    East Dennis, MA

    Jeepers, Kelly. Hope you get well soon.

    Cora posted this house late in the cycle of last week’s link exchange, but my guess is that many of you did not see it. Six bedrooms, four baths, eight fireplaces, and nearly 5000 square feet on 4.6 acres with a build date of 1705 (or 1659?): this is the Bradford-Huntington House in Norwich, CT, listed at $550,000. Similar to a house I posted a few weeks back, this early home has shutters in some rooms that slide along the interior wall next to the window (rather than shutters that fold or that slide inside the wall).

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/16-Huntington-Ln-Norwich-CT-06360/61993681_zpid/

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  11. MichaelMichael says: 2033 comments
    1979 That 70's show
    Otis Orchards, WA

    Hope you feel better soon, Kelly!

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  12. CharlesBCharlesB says: 481 comments
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    1846 Gothic/Greek Revival
    NY

    Ripley, NY (‘The Town that Grape Juice Built’)–1925 Cotswold-on-steroids mansion with 32 rooms for $365,000:

    https://www.reahomesearch.com/idx/listing/NY-CCBOR/R1236401/69-W-Main-Street-Ripley-NY-14775

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    • Lancaster JohnLancaster John says: 715 comments
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      1875 Victorian Farmhouse
      Lancaster, PA, PA

      Once again, Charles is showing that south-western New York may be one of the best value for dollar areas in the mid-Atlantic region (although this is, IMHO, practically the mid-west). The other area being the Delaware bay side of New Jersey.

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      • CharlesBCharlesB says: 481 comments
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        1846 Gothic/Greek Revival
        NY

        Midwest? True, Buffalo may look like a perfect mirror image of Toledo, Ohio, flat as a pancake with wide, perfectly straight avenues like you’d find in Indianapolis. But here, 70 miles southwest, it’s hill country with lakes and farms and hemlock forests that look like some unspoiled corner of New England. Chautauqua County is the ‘Vermont’ of people from Cleveland:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itFHOrNfwQs

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        • Lancaster JohnLancaster John says: 715 comments
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          1875 Victorian Farmhouse
          Lancaster, PA, PA

          Well, all I can say is that people from the eastern part of PA even think of Pittsburgh as being more mid-west than east. I think there’s some truth to it, the cultural geography and early settlement patterns do put the western part of PA in a different area. Cultural and social boundaries don’t really follow maps of state or other political boundaries. For just one very local example, I live on the east side of the Susquehanna River in Lancaster County which was settled out of Philadelphia and to which we still relate. Just across the river bridge is York County, which is far more influenced by exposure to Baltimore Maryland and “southern” attitudes. And then Appalachia begins in the mountain range running just north and west of Lebanon and Harrisburg, PA. My sister-in-law is from an old family in northern Pennsylvania which was an area settled out of colonial Connecticut. I find historical geography fascinating. Charles, have you any idea of where the early settlers of your area originated?

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          • CharlesBCharlesB says: 481 comments
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            1846 Gothic/Greek Revival
            NY

            The vast majority of settlers here on the lakeshore were Connecticutians, some of whom had done a layover in the counties of Central New York for 10 or 15 years. I think many of them had gone out to inspect the lands of the Connecticut Western Reserve (today’s NE Ohio), and saw the land here on their way with its milder winters and better mill sites. The second largest group were from Massachusetts, followed by Pennsylvanians (many from Westmoreland/Wyoming Valley), and then Protestant Irish right off the boat from the old country. For some reason I haven’t figured out, a small stream of water here is called a ‘creek’ (pronounced ‘crick’). In Connecticut it would be a ‘brook;’ a ‘creek’ there is a salt-water tidal estuary. Somehow the Pennsylvanians came to dominate our geographical nomenclature.

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  13. Laurie W.Laurie W. says: 1771 comments
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    1988 Greek Revival Wannabe in beautiful countryside
    NC

    wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwa That was my cat Joey’s paw on the keyboard, sending you his wishes for a quick trip back home, feeling better. Hope you got my earlier message — all still stands!

    Billed on the web as Greek Revival…well, kind of, sort of Craftsman, a little Victorian…it hasn’t made its mind up yet, but is an inviting, individual house. Reachable only by boat or helicopter. Peaks Island, ME, 1820 (looks not so old), $660K. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/165-Island-Ave-Peaks-Island-ME-04108/117976471_zpid/

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  14. SueSue says: 490 comments
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    1802 Cape
    ME

    Good Friday afternoon all. So the husband, after looking at properties in CT has decided he just doesn’t want us to have to pay the taxes that CT demands. Even if it would be for only a couple years. We have resumed our plans to move to GA. We are looking outside Atlanta. We need land for the farm but need to be commuting distance to the airport. So that search begins.

    In the meantime I continue my fantasy searching for the most interesting houses.

    OK, this house is amazing. This home is located here in Maine on the Western Promenade in Portland. The Western Promenade was Portland’s most fashionable neighborhood in the late 19th century. The district was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1984. Apparently there is this little enclave of these amazing Queen Ann homes called the Castles. The home were built from 1901-1905 John W. Burrows, an architect who is a mystery. All I can say is bravo John W. Burrows. There are so many unusual and charming details through out the house. The cherry on top of the sundae though is “craftman”? round wooden ceiling the likes of I have never seen before. Mr. Burrows loved stained glass as well, and it is featured through out the house. They have restored this house thoughtfully and even did a nice job with the kitchen. It’s a stunner. It is priced at….drum roll….$1,125,000.

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/46-Western-Promenade_Portland_ME_04102_M41036-18448?view=qv

    I think I am a person that has always secretly wanted to live in an island. This darling 1820 Greek Revival is on Peaks Island. What a beautiful job they have done renovating this home. It really could not be more charming are more inviting. I even like the kitchen, which is rare for me. This is a great way to experience island living without being cut off from the mainland during our long winters. Lovely. Priced at $660,000

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/165-Island-Ave_Portland_ME_04108_M32163-06790?view=qv

    Next I have the Issac Fly house. Listed as one of the oldest homes in Portland this colonial is believed by historians to date from the early postcolonial period. Somewhere around 1785-1790. The earliest record of the house was an 1830 document, a deed in which Charles Bartlett purchased the property from one Isaac Fly. Isaac was the son of James Fly who had been involved in the masting trade prior to the Revolution. It sits on Westbrook St in Portland historic Stroudwater village. Westbrook St was named after the areas first settler,Col. Thomas Westbrook, mast agent for King George II.
    This home sits right on the water with an additional piece of property across the street where a mill used to be. Inside it has been altered into a two family. I can see gorgeous wide board floors but it does seem altered. Not great pictures so it’s hard to know what has been done and what hasn’t been altered. It is listed at $399,000. I suspect it is priced this low because it is near the Portland Airport.

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1227-Westbrook-St_Portland_ME_04102_M44741-02234?ex=ME2423051980&view=qv

    And last I have a 1790 Colonial Plantation home on 12.68 acres in Newnan, GA. Says it is being sold “as is with no repairs by seller” and that it is in original condition. Ideal for “Authentic Restoration”. Needs lots of work and is sold ‘as is’ with no repairs by Seller and “Probably will not qualify for loan due to age and condition.” Plus there are tenants there. Phew….. Yet, with all that I love, love, love it. I am always a bit puzzled by the as is thing when clearly a home is inhabited. So in this case what does “As is” mean? Outhouse as is? leaking roof as is? Haunted horribly as is? Listed at $295,000.

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/80-Charlie-B-Johnston-Rd-7_Newnan_GA_30263_M58746-77838?ex=GA2562415669?view=qv

    Enjoy!!!!

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    • natira121natira121 says: 525 comments
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      1877 Vernacular
      Columbia River Gorge, WA

      WOW! A VERY nice bunch of houses! SO much to look at and drool over. Just wow.

      Good luck with your house hunting, Sue

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    • BoobtubeBoobtube says: 151 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1984 Post and Beam saltbox
      NY

      I have to agree with you about the taxes in CT. That has kept me from home searching in that state. Maine has some fantastic properties but is sooooo cooooold up there. As I age, my bones crave warmth. That first house is just stunning.

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      • SueSue says: 490 comments
        OHD Supporter

        1802 Cape
        ME

        Just so high. Found a lot of nice places but man, when you are spending 600 and up a month in taxes it’ like another mortgage. I also have horses so we needed land as well. Just not worth it.

    • Laurie W.Laurie W. says: 1771 comments
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      1988 Greek Revival Wannabe in beautiful countryside
      NC

      I feel the same as you do about the Newnan house, with a big “OH YESSSS!”

    • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
      1930 carriage house
      Bethlehem, CT

      Too bad about Connecticut not working out for you guys, Sue. Honestly, I don’t think the taxes are all that bad, considering adjacent states. I may have been slowly brainwashed, however. The Peek Island house is a definite WOW. updated, but not too flashy. It’s even given me pause over the painted newel posts and banister. I normally hate that, but here it works somehow. That bathroom with skylights is just perfection. Who needs a corner jacuzzi tub and steam shower when you have that amazing light and space? They got so much right about that house.

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      • Laurie W.Laurie W. says: 1771 comments
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        1988 Greek Revival Wannabe in beautiful countryside
        NC

        You may be brainwashed, dwr, and not realize it, lol. We finally left CT reluctantly — we really liked it there & I still miss it — but taxes were making a difference in how we lived. My brother in VT — also a high-tax state — complains about the bill for his 23 acres: it’s the same as we paid FIFTEEN YEARS AGO for 1.5 acres in Norwalk, our houses about the same size. Now in NC we pay about 20% of our Conn. tax for a bigger house. It’s really sad that the NE states are so expensive because they are all wonderful places to live.

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        • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
          1930 carriage house
          Bethlehem, CT

          Yes, Laurie. I hear you. I have a friend in Florida whose house is triple the size of mine and she pays less than a third in taxes what I do. I have strong ties to here, so I doubt I’ll ever leave. What I do grouse about all the time are the car taxes. Paying those infuriate me. Somehow the property tax feels valid, but the car taxes feel like a bit of a sucker punch. Ahh well.

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          • Laurie W.Laurie W. says: 1771 comments
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            1988 Greek Revival Wannabe in beautiful countryside
            NC

            Got that. We pay them too & it chaps me. The principle is maddening — you pay hefty tax when you buy the car, then have to cough up every year on top of that. I get the idea, finance roads, etc., but it’s still double taxation & unfair. It’s all SO much less than in Europe, I keep reminding myself. I think you’re very fortunate to have found a place that is HOME for good; most people stay places from inertia. You’re the kind of resident who adds to a state!

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      • SueSue says: 490 comments
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        1802 Cape
        ME

        I do love CT. I grew up in Newtown and was born in Greenwich. My very best friend lives there but we couldn’t possibly afford what we ultimately want which is a lot of acreage for me to expand my Wellness farm. It was only going to be a few years while Jeff is doing this contract with Otis and all we could afford was a couple acres and that was in the high threes.

    • Leah SLeah S says: 151 comments
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      1870 Vernacular Greek Rev
      TX

      Sue, I wish you good luck house hunting in GA!

      The Newnan, GA house absolutely fascinates me. I will have to try to research the history of it when I get the chance.

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  15. Anne M.Anne M. says: 705 comments
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    1972 not a dream.
    Hopkinton, MA

    An interesting 1856 mansion in Newburgh, NY for $599,000. I kind of like the contrast of the modern decor and the beautiful wood. Nobody tell Kelly about that light fixture in the foyer tho 😉
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/60-Balmville-Rd-Newburgh-NY-12550/31840719_zpid/
    A 1920 mansion in Dartmouth, MA for $1.25 million, 20 beds, 25 baths. It has most recently been a retirement home not many interior pictures but the building itself is gorgeous:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/824-Tucker-Rd-Dartmouth-MA-02747/248163746_zpid/
    In Spokane, WA 1906 Tudor Revival for $614,950
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1118-W-9th-Ave-Spokane-WA-99204/23521019_zpid/
    Across the street from a lake in Barton, VT looks like 4 cabins- may be more – built in 1938 for $182,500, really sweet!
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/139-Pageant-Park-Rd-Barton-VT-05822/2104387781_zpid/
    Elegant 1920 Colonial in Holyoke, MA for $380,000
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/69-Lexington-Ave-Holyoke-MA-01040/56176668_zpid/
    1860 Italianate in Germantown, NY for $379,900 great original character
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/641-County-Route-8-Germantown-NY-12526/30008354_zpid/
    1790 farmhouse in Lenox, MA with a cool restored 1736 granary building behind it and a 2 bedroom apartment above the garage for $550,000
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/42-Golden-Hill-Rd-Lenox-MA-01240/59220337_zpid/
    Get well soon, Kelly. Have a good weekend, everyone!

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    • RosewaterRosewater says: 5609 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Funny how my brain will remember some random house I saw years ago; and then not remember the simplest of things. Heheheh. Sheesh. Anyway, I remembered seeing the Newburgh house the instant I saw it; and it really didn’t make much of an impression on me the first time. I just remember thinking it was one of those houses by an expat. English architect which looked like it belonged in an UMC suburb of Birmingham, England. Fun to see it again looking so VERY well done after a complete “renovation”. I agree with you about the new look; especially since so very much of the original and vintage details were retained and highlit. Obviously whoever did the job was sensitive to the home’s “historic” cohesion. That’s pretty impressive in a world of flip-flops
      https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2017/05/11/c-1850-newburgh-ny/

      Love the little cabins compound! Delightful. 🙂

      Thank you Anne.

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    • Cathy F.Cathy F. says: 2187 comments
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      1920 Colonial Revival
      Upstate/Central, NY

      I love the Holyoke 1920 Colonial Revival!!! It had me at the exterior, then really grabbed me in the entry hall with its staircase. And continued to keep me interested.

      The Newburgh/Balmville house… I’ve driven by it many times, while visiting a friend who lives down in that area; neat to see its interior. I have to agree with you, the juxtaposition of the modern decor (with the possible exception of the entry hall ceiling lamp😉) actually kinda works, IMO. But really nice that the bathrooms are still intact.

      And the huge Dartmouth house… yes, more interior pics would be appreciated. Any time I see a mansion used as a retirement home, I think of the movie “Quartet” – which I love.

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      • Anne M.Anne M. says: 705 comments
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        1972 not a dream.
        Hopkinton, MA

        The staircase on the Holyoke house is very impressive! I like the back patio, too. I haven’t seen “Quartet” I will look for it!

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  16. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
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    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    First, Kelly, I join everyone in hoping you feel better soon – but even when you do, try and give yourself permission to take it easy for awhile… We’ll be here, OK?

    Second, I wanted to let others know that one of Kelly’s secret posts from last month will be on the City of Amsterdam, NY’s, Holiday House Tour tomorrow, from 10 am – 4 pm, along with several other Amsterdam mansions. Here’s the original post for those who can access it, just in case anyone finds themselves in the area:
    https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2019/10/18/1902-mission-revival-in-amsterdam-ny/

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  17. nailwhacker Petenailwhacker Pete says: 57 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1935 cape with A&C elements
    Malverne, NY

    Ever watch tv show Empire and drool over the townhouse? For 7.5 Mil, it could be yours. Located in Park Slope, Brooklyn, a few blocks from Prospect Park. The five-story, 8,014-square-foot home with five bedrooms, 5½ bathrooms and three outdoor decks. It was priced at $8.8 million in 2018.The entrance has a floor-to-ceiling glass and wrought-iron entry wall that gives a view of a floor-to-ceiling mirrored mantel above a gas-burning fireplace. Original details include wainscoting, a stained glass skylight and original wall tapestries.
    A two-story kitchen with stainless steel appliances, a library, a formal dining room with coffered ceilings, a music room with a crystal chandelier and two sets of stained glass windows from the studios of Frank Lloyd Wright. Built 1900 by architect Thomas Bennet.
    https://www.citihabitats.com/brooklyn-real-estate/for-sale/park-slope/108-8th-avenue/7073617

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    • Cathy F.Cathy F. says: 2187 comments
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      1920 Colonial Revival
      Upstate/Central, NY

      Wow, that is some house!! I’never seen a newel post – if you can call it that in this case – like that! And the closet hallway on the 4th floor… wonderful.

  18. Lancaster JohnLancaster John says: 715 comments
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    1875 Victorian Farmhouse
    Lancaster, PA, PA

    This unique 2 building property is in historic Valley Forge of Revolutionary War fame. For unknown reasons the Zillow description does not track the MLS, so I am copying that description here:
    Don’t miss your chance to own a piece of history! Built in the 1700’s, it’s said that General Howe of the British Army stayed here at some point during the American War of Independence. Used for a number of different businesses since then, its most current use is as an upholstery/restoration workshop and successful antique shop. Time for a new owner, only your creativity limits what these beautiful buildings become next! Situated on a major intersection, these two buildings have great exposure to passing traffic. The thatched roof building is a pre-1750 stone house with antique hardware/shutters, an original beehive oven, walk in fireplace with beautiful sycamore beams, a working bathroom on the main level, and the original sleeping quarters on the second floor with original fireplace. The stone building is a Chester County Field Stone Farm House c. 1760-1770 with a stone addition c.1810-1820 complete with beautiful exposed interior stone wall, three fireplaces, deep window sills, enclosed yard, and antique hardware/shutters. Come see the potential for yourself!
    I think the price, given the location in the Philadelphia suburbs, seems reasonable. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Corner-Of-Rt-23-And-Pawlings-Rd-Valley-Forge-PA-19481/2082354269_zpid/

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    • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
      1930 carriage house
      Bethlehem, CT

      John, what a cool find. I am a sucker for a stone house and this would go right to the top of my list.

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    • LesleyLesley says: 7 comments
      Wyoming, DE

      Many years ago when I did home care I used to drive by this property (slowly) and wonder what it looked like inside. So grateful for finally having my curiosity satisfied. It did not disappoint!

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  19. GearGirlGearGirl says: 94 comments
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    Second Empire, Gothic, Tudor... Scottsdale, AZ

    I figured something was up! Finally realized maybe this thread had info. I hope you are back home and feeling much better, Kelly!!

  20. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 881 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Hey y’all. So it’s salmonella poisoning. Apple bread from a farmer’s market. I was pretty bad off and probably would have just died if I had been coherent enough to say no when my husband said he was taking me to the hospital. I’ll be in the hospital for another day. Thanks for the well wishes, I’m still a little out of it so will read your comments later.

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  21. BasserBasser says: 11 comments

    So sorry, Kelly–glad you found out what it is, but how awful!
    Got a link for you…in the village where I work
    https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/314-Dayton-St-Yellow-Springs-OH/17548885/
    It’s the old Union Schoolhouse in Yellow Springs, hippie town of Ohio. For quite awhile, it’s had units rented out as artists’ studios, etc, but the owner wasn’t keeping up with things, so it’s currently empty. I will say that it would be neat to renovate, but I have my doubts about building on to it. The village may say Yes, but the villagers would probably make a stink!

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  22. Laurie W.Laurie W. says: 1771 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1988 Greek Revival Wannabe in beautiful countryside
    NC

    Ohhh, that’s no fun, Kelly! Had it in London once; would have died too if I’d listened to the hotel nurse who kept telling me to stop being dramatic. Thank goodness your DH whisked you off! Good man to have around. You’ll be better before long — sending healing thoughts.

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  23. CoraCora says: 2026 comments
    OHD Supporter & Moderator

    Clinton, TN

    1900. Here’s a Barber design in Lebanon, TN. Not the best photos but a wonderful home that has been cared for. This looks similar to the design of my grandparents former Barber home in Whittemore, IA (hopefully Chris will see this and let me know if they may be the same!) $450K

    Lebanon, TN:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/428-W-Main-St-Lebanon-TN-37087/42674470_zpid/

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    • JimHJimH says: 4854 comments
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      It’s not cheap but the Buchanan house in Lebanon is really something! Completed in 1897 and essentially intact, with lincrusta, original wall coverings and gas fixtures (converted). The owner I.W.P. Buchanan was a banker with a PhD in mathematics! Listed on the National Register:
      https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/NRIS/79002487

      Cora, do you have the address of the Whittemore house?

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      • CoraCora says: 2026 comments
        OHD Supporter & Moderator

        Clinton, TN

        Jim, it’s 505 4th Street in Whittemore. Owned by my grandparents, Cora C. And Joseph M. Fleming, through the late 60s I believe.

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        • RosewaterRosewater says: 5609 comments
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          1875 Italianate cottage
          Noblesville, IN

          I remember you mentioning that house a while, (maybe years), back, Cora. I found a pic: and I’ll bet your right; they sure do look like the same plan.

          https://lostinsiouxland.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/whittemoreiowa042.jpg

          The link you shared is a stunner! How about that pagoda-ish, tower detail! Wow. That’s super rad. Hope someone will share the image from the plan book: maybe if she posts it. I have a feeling that’s how he originally drew it: though I’ll wager the listed example was one of the VERY few to be executed as such / remain extant and original.

          What a ______ listing for such a great house. Can you imagine getting that listing and NOT going up there and photographing that tower detail; and every other interesting thing!? Good grief. 🙂

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  24. CoraCora says: 2026 comments
    OHD Supporter & Moderator

    Clinton, TN

    1919. A rather extraordinary cottage in TN. Needs love but so many surviving period details. $85K

    Trenton, TN:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/716-S-High-St-Trenton-TN-38382/41298748_zpid/

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  25. AlanAlan says: 43 comments
    1948 Cape Cod/Bungalow?
    Davisville, WV

    Kelly,

    Sorry to hear you’re not well. I pray you get better soon.

    For the gang, here’s another home for sale in the Julia-Ann Historic District of Parkersburg, WV: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1011-Ann-St-Parkersburg-WV-26101/23182042_zpid/?

    What I like about it is that almost everything is original and it has been restored with great care to authenticity. Woodwork, pocket doors, stained glass, gardens, possibly koi(?) pond and a bridge.

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  26. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
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    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Here is a listing which is not for the faint of heart – a modest 1880 Shingle Victorian handyman in Amsterdam, NY, the southern foothills of the Adirondacks, for $25,000. It has some appealing original-looking features and deserves to be cleaned up and photographed properly. (Photo #21 is the cellar staircase – rotate it clockwise to view properly.)
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/41-Park-St-Amsterdam-NY-12010/53175350_zpid/?

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    • Miss-Apple37Miss-Apple37 says: 1119 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1875 Limestone house
      Langeais, Loire Valley,

      This one is just drop-dead gorgeous. the stained glass are so beautiful! especially the foyer’s and the bathrooms’

  27. natira121natira121 says: 525 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1877 Vernacular
    Columbia River Gorge, WA

    Hello everyone,

    I just wanted to mention that I posted some before and after pictures in my “house” album. I added them on Friday, and there will be more, but I refrained from mentioning it until we found out if Kelly was going to survive or not.

    I’m looking forward to comments!

    And Kelly, I hope you are MUCH improved this morning!

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  28. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11707 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Back home! Tired as heck, if I could I’d sleep until Christmas. I’m going to try to get to work tomorrow, unfortunately this vacation cost us a pretty good penny (no insurance) and this is the week of ad revenue…revenue…so I have to work this week! Thanks for the well wishes, I’d respond to every single one but I’ll just say it in one comment, THANK YOU! And thanks to Cora for keeping the comments going otherwise everyone would not be able to have fun while I was away. 🙂 Thanks everyone!

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    • roxxxroxxx says: 399 comments
      OHD Supporter

      I just came in to see if there was any word about or from you Kelly. I am so glad to hear you are home and doing better.
      Things always turn out ok. I have been in that situation before with no insurance. It will work out, I’m sure.
      Take care.

      • Lancaster JohnLancaster John says: 715 comments
        OHD Supporter

        1875 Victorian Farmhouse
        Lancaster, PA, PA

        This has nothing to do with old houses, but since Kelly mentioned having no health insurance I would recommend that she (and others going without) look into the healthcare sharing ministries which are available. They are, compared to traditional insurance, quite affordable. Other than being a 5+ year member, I have no connection or financial interest in any of these organizations and am posting this in case others don’t know they exist as an option.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_sharing_ministry

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    • 67drake67drake says: 245 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1993, hey I’m still looking! Boring
      Iowa County , WI

      Alright fellow OHD’ers. I just sent Kelly a few bucks. Normally I would do things like this anonymously, but figured if I could motivate some others to help out the lady who runs this site, so be it. If you can spare it, give. I’ve been blessed in life more than I deserve, so…..

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    • Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1980/2010 board & batten modern

      So grateful for Cora and glad Kelly is back. Smile, time for a contribution

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    • Leah SLeah S says: 151 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1870 Vernacular Greek Rev
      TX

      I’ve been away for awhile, and just catching up.
      Wishing Kelly a speedy recovery! Take it easy and get all the rest you can! ❤️

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    • SueSue says: 490 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1802 Cape
      ME

      I am glad you are home. As someone that has dealt with chronic illness for over 20 years I can understand how overwhelming being sick and having to produce work is. I hope for this Thanksgivng you are not cooking or cleaning and someone is doing everything for you.

      • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11707 comments
        Admin

        1901 Folk Victorian
        Chestatee, GA

        I don’t do that on a normal Thanksgiving! lol This is the only thing that’s positive, I get to stay home this Thanksgiving. 🙂

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  29. CoraCora says: 2026 comments
    OHD Supporter & Moderator

    Clinton, TN

    Me too. Come on folks, help if you can.

    Tis’ the season to be thankful and we are all thankful for Kelly! ❤

    https://www.oldhousedreams.com/ohd-support/

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  30. Angie boldly going nowhereAngie boldly going nowhere says: 162 comments
    OHD Supporter

    Yeah, great news, Kelly. So happy to hear that you are back home. Don’t do any more work than you have to and take care of yourself.

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    • Cathy F.Cathy F. says: 2187 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1920 Colonial Revival
      Upstate/Central, NY

      Angiebgn – Every time I see your cat avatar I think how beautiful s/he is! (Possibly a Maine Coon, Siberian Forest cat, or one of those in the mix, maybe??)

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      • Angie boldly going nowhereAngie boldly going nowhere says: 162 comments
        OHD Supporter

        Thanks, Cathy F. Your own cat is adorable. I do not know what Sam is. I rescued her from the SPCA in May. Poor little girl! She was turned over to the shelter after being with the same family all her 11 years. It broke my heart. After looking at her photos, hearing her history, and that she’d been at the shelter for four months I could not leave her there another moment and off we went to pick her up. She wasn’t impressed — hissing and ready to remove an arm if given half a chance. That was six months ago. It hasn’t been easy, but she has really settled down over the past three months. When she was turned over to the shelter it was by a male. A few weeks after I adopted her my brother came by. She went wild, practically flying across the room to him, falling all over his feet as if he were her nearest and dearest. Perhaps when she heard the male voice she thought her prior owner had come to take her home. I still cry about it. Yes, she is beautiful and most importantly she is loved and she will never see the inside of a shelter again.

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        • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
          1930 carriage house
          Bethlehem, CT

          You’re my kind of person, Angie.

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        • Cathy F.Cathy F. says: 2187 comments
          OHD Supporter

          1920 Colonial Revival
          Upstate/Central, NY

          Angie – Thank you for adopting Sam! And glad to hear she’s settling in.

          The cat in my present avatar is Mr. Creamy – yeah, I know it sounds as if a 6 yr. old named him.😉 He was a semi feral stray who showed up on my front porch in 2012, and was an absolute mess. Filthy, but couldn’t clean himself due to an abscess on his tongue, was drooling profusely & therefore dehydrated because of the abscess, and had 10-12 fully engorged ticks on him, fleas, GI upset, etc. A couple of visits to the vet for all of those plus neutering, and he also slowly came around. He’s now the quintessential lap cat!

          Presently have 3 cats, the other two also being strays. There is fairly good evidence that both of them had been left behind when their owners moved. Arghhh! How can anyone do that?!?

          Your Sam’s story reminds me a bit of Kenya, one of my other (now RIP) cats. I had seen her, a polydactyl (very polydactyl!😸) tortie, at Petsmart from the Humane Society. She was listed as being 10 y.o. and had been surrendered 8 months prior. When I asked to meet her, the HS worker said that I was the first person to even ask about her. Everyone else had seen her age & automatically bypassed her. She was a sweet kitty & lived another 10 years with me.

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          • Angie boldly going nowhereAngie boldly going nowhere says: 162 comments
            OHD Supporter

            Oh, Cathy, how dreadful for the poor creature to be in that state. Bless you for taking care of him and giving him a chance. You have brightened my day hugely. Sam (she was known as Meeka when turned over to the SPCA) was there in a kennel for four months. People would marvel at how beautiful she was but no one wanted her because she was 11 years plus. I don’t know how long she’ll live, but however long that is she will have the best home possible (wish she and I could move into one of my favourite old houses!!) Give Mr. Creamy a loving pat on the head and tell him he is one very lucky boy to have found you and your kind heart.

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            • Cathy F.Cathy F. says: 2187 comments
              OHD Supporter

              1920 Colonial Revival
              Upstate/Central, NY

              Thanks, will do! Same for Sam.🐱🐱

              Btw… Just dawned on me… I don’t know about Sam, but Creamy will still fight like crazy when I try to put him in a carrier to go to the vet. (I resort to the ‘pillowcase catch’ – I kinda value my fingers, hands, and arms.😉) He’s now been prescribed Gabapentin to be given 2 hours before a vet appt. It’s used for nerve pain in people, but acts as a mild tranquilizer in cats. Makes it soooo much easier to get him to the vet, and for the exam when there, too. He’s not loopy or anything from the med, just a whole lot calmer.

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              • Angie boldly going nowhereAngie boldly going nowhere says: 162 comments
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                I shudder to think about taking Sam to the vet. Before I adopted her, the SPCA had taken her to a vet for all the tests and whatever else they do before the adoption. I was given her “health passport” i think it’s called. Must make a note of the Gabapentin.It might save an arm (mine or the vet’s)!!

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                • Cathy F.Cathy F. says: 2187 comments
                  OHD Supporter

                  1920 Colonial Revival
                  Upstate/Central, NY

                  Yes, my personal advice is to ask your vet to please prescribe Gabapentin for Sam: it makes a *whole* lot of difference; a much calmer cat who doesn’t get freaked out any longer when vet visits are needed.

                  I was bitten early on by Creamy when trying to get him into a carrier, & when my vet saw it, she demanded that I call my Dr. right then & there to ask for a prophylactic antibiotic – since deep cat bites tend to infect.

                  The vet tech used to need to wear gauntlets to restrain Creamy while the vet herself examined him. But… with the gabapentin given beforehand, I can get him into the carrier without incidents, and no more gauntlets needed during his exam! 👍🏼👏🏼

                  Good luck! (to you and any other cat peeps who have felines who absolutely freak out at even the thought of going to the vets!)

  31. BethanyBethany says: 3313 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1983 White elephant
    Escondido, CA

    Well now, I don’t usually read the Friday posts, I only like Kelly’s curated posts that have passed her standards, and I also am not usually off the site for 3 whole days as I have been due to a season of busyness, so what a shocker to see that she’s been so sick! Lifting you up in prayer, Kelly, and thanking God for you and the kinda weird way you bring together a bunch of random people from all the world in unity over our love of old houses!

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  32. Michael McNamaraMichael McNamara says: 21 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1937 Georgian
    Evanston, IL

    Wishing you a speedy recovery!

  33. CoraCora says: 2026 comments
    OHD Supporter & Moderator

    Clinton, TN

    1902. Just a few interior pics. She’s a big towered beauty. $425K

    Carver, MN:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/112-4th-St-E-Carver-MN-55315/1567894_zpid/

    • Randy CRandy C says: 434 comments
      OHD Supporter

      2015 Reverse Ranch 1/2
      Olathe, KS

      What a tease! I have to wonder why anyone serious about selling their property would not include many, many pics highlighting all of the features? I would definitely like to see much more of this home.

  34. CoraCora says: 2026 comments
    OHD Supporter & Moderator

    Clinton, TN

    1892. Also in Minnesota. I like this one even better! It needs a bit of attention, but it’s so charming. $337K

    St. Paul, MN:
    What do you think of this home? https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/936-Goodrich-Ave-Saint-Paul-MN-55105/2036177_zpid/

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  35. CoraCora says: 2026 comments
    OHD Supporter & Moderator

    Clinton, TN

    1905. NRHP. Stunning! Almost 6000 sq ft. $150K.

    Aberdeen, SD:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/508-N-3rd-St-Aberdeen-SD-57445/194754435_zpid/

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  36. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    In the interest of helping to keep people entertained until Kelly returns, here’s a pretty Italianate (improperly dated at 1900) in the northern New York village of Lowville for $330,000. Offered for it’s very appealing exterior and landscape only, as it’s sadly lost most of its interior originality:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7633-Park-Ave-Lowville-NY-13367/30800600_zpid/

    • Randy CRandy C says: 434 comments
      OHD Supporter

      2015 Reverse Ranch 1/2
      Olathe, KS

      Sadly is a HUGE understatement. This should be criminal!

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      • Slroulette23Slroulette23 says: 165 comments
        OHD Supporter

        Reading this comment prevented me from clicking on the above link. I thank you for seeing the degradation of these homes is, to say the least…sickening!

        I can handle the deterioration of a property but the blatant lack of respect for the magnificence and grandeur that once was…horrible!

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    • Miss-Apple37Miss-Apple37 says: 1119 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1875 Limestone house
      Langeais, Loire Valley,

      I don’t really understand why you say it’s lost its interior originality. It had a Victorian makeover, re. the trim and mantels, but the foyer still looks stunning, so does the dining-room… This hasn’t been HGTV’d.

  37. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Here’s something you don’t see often on the market – an original 1927 Adirondack Great Camp complete with boathouse and 17 acres on Fourth Lake in the Town of Inlet, NY, for $4.195 million. It has some inevitable updates, but the wood remains unpainted, and I suppose anyone who could afford to buy it would also have the means to backdate it, if they were so inclined:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/50-Ny-28-Inlet-NY-13331/2093376986_zpid/?mmlb=g,49

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  38. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Continuing the Adirondack theme, for those of lesser means, here is a 1903 lakefront Victorian with boathouse, natural woodwork and some nice details on 5 acres in Old Forge for “only” $1.1 million:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/342-Tuttle-Rd-Old-Forge-NY-13420/30535821_zpid/

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  39. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    And another – this one a modest, rustic 1920 cottage on Long Lake for $365,000:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/507-Deerland-Rd-Long-Lake-NY-12847/2088822759_zpid/

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  40. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Lovely 1888 chapel on four acres for $169,000 in Upper Saranac Lake, NY. This one has to have been shared before, but I apparently missed it:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10-Indian-Carry-Rd-Upper-Saranac-Lake-NY-12983/2084366698_zpid/

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  41. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Just realized I might be making more work here for Kelly with all these shares, so this will be the last one for now – another fairly rustic 1920 Adirondack cottage, this one on Big Tupper Lake for $575,000:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1461-State-Route-30-Tupper-Lake-NY-12986/2088823013_zpid/?

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  42. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11707 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Remember that time I said I’d be back to work Monday? One of my hands are swollen like a balloon and I’m dizzy as a drunk so…maybe try tomorrow. I’m going to do some easy stuff, I have about 400 status/price update emails to get through (maybe most are junk) so I’ll do that today. (edit: nope, I’m just going to stare at the TV, just too out of it/dizzy.) Tomorrow, y’all cross your fingers, toes and whatever.

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11707 comments
      Admin

      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Whoa! I just checked my PayPal account, the donations have been out of this world marvelously generous! I’ll tell y’all how much this stupid apple bread cost. The bill last I heard was $33k but that was the morning of being released. But since I’m cash payer I’d get a “discount” of 65-75% off depending on how fast we paid. Can’t do it that fast so it’s only the 65% with 4 months to pay so nearly $12k. After looking at my budget if we sell stuff, don’t eat for the next 4 months, we could do it. So these donations, wowzers it’s going to at least allow us to go back to buying groceries. So thank you, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

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      • Miss-Apple37Miss-Apple37 says: 1119 comments
        OHD Supporter

        1875 Limestone house
        Langeais, Loire Valley,

        These healthcare amounts are just nuts! so glad that you have people caring for you Kelly!

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      • John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 5353 comments
        OHD Supporter

        1889 Eastlake Cottage
        Fort Worth, TX

        Kelly, I hope everyone who appreciates this site and everything you do to keep it going will consider helping out if they can. (I just did)

        True personal story: Back in May 2013, my spouse had a heart attack over the weekend and sadly, she had already been approved by Soc Sec for medical disability coverage but this was exactly 3 weeks from the date her Medicare coverage began. She also had internal bleeding, received four blood transfusions, and spent 3 days in intensive care and 10 days total in the hospital. In her confused state, (and unknown to me) she had taken 8 aspirins for chest pains (actually, the pain was centered between her shoulders) and this caused the severe gastric bleeding. Ultimately, she had 3 stents put in her heart and upon discharge, underwent a long period of convalescence. Financially, it was like being hit by multiple torpedoes below the water line as the bills came to $180,000. We worked out an agreement with the hospital and doctors to pay $80,000 which was half of our life savings and the hospital agreed to charity pay the remainder. We never recovered from that incident but it could have been worse both medically and financially. We feel blessed to have survived the experience although my spouse has never been the same as she was before. Regrettably, Medical bills are a leading cost of personal bankruptcy in the U.S., but I won’t stray into political commentary.

        Kelly, have you considered setting up a GO FUND ME account? We are blessed that there are many Good Samaritans in our country and they seem to be most active around the Holidays. I hope you will consider doing so and will also consider getting some kind of coverage for any future situations. (perhaps, consider what Lancaster John suggested?) Of course, we all know that hindsight is 20/20 but life is full of perilous unknowns. Hope you get well soon and remember, we Old House Dreamers are here for you.

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        • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11707 comments
          Admin

          1901 Folk Victorian
          Chestatee, GA

          Holy hell, we’d have to go bankrupt at that kind of bill! Sorry you both had to go through that. If we can’t meet the 4 month thing, may even have to. It shouldn’t be this way but politics and all that, can’t go into that here. 🙂

          I feel a bit…weird doing a GoFund me. I think we’ll be okay since the recent donations the last day or two. We are going to eat lots of beans, potatoes and pbj sandwiches (which I do anyway) for a while, sell things, not do anything that costs money for the next 4 months and we should make it, should. 🙂 But ONLY if I can get back to double duty work by tomorrow. I’m still fuzzy today but better than yesterday so crossing my fingers today will be good enough. We’ll be okay…although if anyone planned to become an OHD Supporter, between now and 4 months would be a pretty good time to become one! 😀

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          • dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
            1930 carriage house
            Bethlehem, CT

            Kelly, I’ve had a turbulent year and a half myself. Once I am not floundering as much, I’ll be happy to be a supporter. I feel confident that with all the work you do, you’ll be ok.

  43. TopperTopper says: 8 comments

    The apples for the bread must have come from the Evil Queen in Snow White.
    Here’s a nice pink 1887 house that is currently a B&B for $399,000 in Nappanee Indiana. It has an interesting tower, lots of wood, built-ins, and some stained glass.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/302-E-Market-St-Nappanee-IN-46550/2139861990_zpid/?

    Here’s an older listing with more pictures.
    https://www.cressyeverett.com/s/in/elkhart-county/nappanee/46550/302-e-market-street/dmgid_105971541.html

    A little history from Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_and_Katharine_Coppes_House

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  44. Laurie W.Laurie W. says: 1771 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1988 Greek Revival Wannabe in beautiful countryside
    NC

    Glad you’re home, Kelly — sorry it’s not easier for you! Stay limp for as long as you need to. I can’t believe those numbers! Holy moley, for 2 nights???? I’m speechless. Amazing the stuff that trips you up when you’re just going along, minding your own business, isn’t it? Big hugs!

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  45. CoraCora says: 2026 comments
    OHD Supporter & Moderator

    Clinton, TN

    What a sweet little 1965 rancher! Love all the funky details that were probably understated in the 60s. Owners have some neat vintage stuff, too. Pretty sure that console TV in the den is almost as old as the house. $130K

    Wichita, KS:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4308-W-18th-St-N-Wichita-KS-67212/77366561_zpid/

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  46. joflahertyjoflaherty says: 1 comments
    Carey, OH

    http://www.reginaventrealtyllc.com/Homes/Pages/461_S_Sandusky_Ave._Upper_Sandusky.html
    Pristine historic home listed on the national registry
    Sits on the Sandusky River. Exterior paint restored to the original colors!
    $285,000

  47. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Here’s an unusual 1868 house in Lake Luzerne, NY, for $339,000. It has some beautiful interior details that the photographer seems to have done his/her best to ignore, so look closely at photos # 14 & 19 – doesn’t that look like a gorgeous and unique fireplace – ?!:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/20-Ben-Rosa-Park-Rd-Lake-Luzerne-NY-12846/59940326_zpid/

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  48. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    And a 1904 fixer in Glens Falls, NY, with some very attractive, unpainted woodwork and built-ins for $138,000:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10-Dix-Ave-Glens-Falls-NY-12801/32919669_zpid/

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  49. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Last, the finale for tonight, an 1876 lakeside family compound with all the rustic splendor, unique old features, and scenic beauty one would hope to find in such a setting. It gets my vote for the OHD summer clubhouse – in Huletts Landing, NY, on the eastern Lake George shore for a mere $1.949 million:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2326-Lands-End-Rd-Huletts-Landing-NY-12841/2084357453_zpid/

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  50. Miss-Apple37Miss-Apple37 says: 1119 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1875 Limestone house
    Langeais, Loire Valley,

    Hey everyone! As I know that there are some pretty knowledgeable old-house people around here, so i thought i could dare ask here. I’ve been following an Instagram account “Belle the Beige Behemoth”, of Lucien who bought a Victorian in Buffalo, NY and he could definitely sense that there’s beauty hidden deep under all the ugly layers added to his house. Anyway, he’s got some very interesting radiators, he’d love to find more info about it and can’t find anything looking like them (sharp-angled kinda art déco radiators). See pics 3 and 4 here: https://www.instagram.com/p/B5GSVlnndlS/ and here https://www.instagram.com/p/Bsln40bh0Tb/ . Has anyone ever seen such radiators? I can’t recall seeing anything like that here on OHD, so that’s pretty intriguing…

    • Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1800 cottage
      Upstate, NY

      Miss A, I’m a big fan of radiators so usually pay extra attention to them, but I’ve never seen any that look like your examples. Their lack of ornamentation makes me wonder if they were intended for use in a non-residential setting – ? Hopefully an OHDer who knows more than we do will share some information, because now I’m curious, too…

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    • Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1980/2010 board & batten modern

      Very neat! I also am curious

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  51. Hi
    Check out before and after restoration photos here.
    https://www.oldhouseguy.com/my_restoration/

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    • Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1980/2010 board & batten modern

      Old House Guy, this was fun to go thru! I look forward to the video, needed to get to dinner needs now. Thank you!

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    • JimHJimH says: 4854 comments
      OHD Supporter

      Nice job, Ken! I like your comment about average vernacular old houses being worthy of backdating, not just the fancy ones. Simple, cost-effective changes like you made cost less than most rehabs and look so much better! It also makes a lot of sense to give the kitchen an older look without blowing the whole house budget on new cabinetry. (I see you were featured on HGTV – that’s usually not a compliment on OHD!)

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    • Miss-Apple37Miss-Apple37 says: 1119 comments
      OHD Supporter

      1875 Limestone house
      Langeais, Loire Valley,

      Good job!! Love the pantry that you recreated! And the octopus furnace…!

  52. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Very attractive 1890 in Manchester Ctr, VT, with lovely woodwork and some very nice details for $499,000. (Possibly shared before?):
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/38-Spruce-St-Manchester-Center-VT-05255/115793639_zpid/

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  53. Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1980/2010 board & batten modern

    1882, Finchville, KY, 249,000
    From the listing: This historic home known as the ”Pickett House” is located in Finchville, KY and is on the National Registry of Historic Places (ref no. 3). Built in 1882 by local farmer James A. Pickett.
    Red brick exterior with some interesting thin Italianate windows, lovely front door, all set on five acres
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6415-Taylorsville-Rd-Finchville-KY-40022/250237480_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=dec4ccd2-969f-42e1-85c0-1c9c933b0b79~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

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  54. Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
    OHD Supporter

    1980/2010 board & batten modern

    1905, Pittsburgh, PA, 575,000
    I do not recall seeing this one shared yet. Another old house that is ready for a sensitive light hand. I like the fireplaces, leaded windows-the windows in general, and the molding around the doorways
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5335-Beeler-St-Pittsburgh-PA-15217/11529651_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=99962080-4bd4-4cbc-9a3e-7eabd3c432ee~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

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  55. ChrisChris says: 16 comments
    Occoquan, VA

    Civil War log cabin discovered during house demolition!!!! In Prescott AK https://www.google.com/search?q=Civil+War+log+cabin+found+inside+house+during&oq=Civil+War+log+cabin+found+inside+house+during&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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  56. Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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    1980/2010 board & batten modern

    Neat story Chris, how wonderful to see that wood.

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  57. CoraCora says: 2026 comments
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    Clinton, TN

    1920. Even in it’s current condition, this is so lovely. I’m so perturbed at the realtor for even suggesting it be razed. Someone tell me what that patterning in the roof is – I want it on my roof! Or if any of our resident historians can tell me anything about this house…I’m going to obsess about it all evening. $30K

    London, OH:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/137-N-Oak-St-London-OH-43140/75090261_zpid/

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    • natira121natira121 says: 525 comments
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      1877 Vernacular
      Columbia River Gorge, WA

      Wow! Too bad there are no interior pictures. Very interesting house…. someone needs to find out more about it! (hint hint)

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    • John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 5353 comments
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      1889 Eastlake Cottage
      Fort Worth, TX

      Agreed with dwr-this is a mansard roofed Second Empire style home probably from the 1870’s as by the 1880’s very few were still being built. I know of this house…a friend of mine in California was considering buying it a few years ago but he decided not to and I honestly forgot what the reason was. It’s been on and off the market several times in recent years. I suspect the interior needs some serious work but that is pure speculation on my part. As for the roof, the patterns are created from different colors of slate. Slate is super expensive to replace so if it were mine and I wanted to keep the patterns, I’d use synthetic slate and paint individual roof tiles in colors to create a pattern. Almost for sure this house originally had some kind of porch or at least a portico. Perhaps a period photo of this house remains somewhere. At least on the outside, it seems relatively intact and original.

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      • JoeJoe says: 731 comments
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        1820 Federal
        Baltimore, MD

        Do you think your friend might have pictures that might be in an account of some site like Flicker, or ones that could be posted here?

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        • John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 5353 comments
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          1889 Eastlake Cottage
          Fort Worth, TX

          As I also seem to recall, one reason he ultimately passed on the house was due to him requesting photos of the interior and not receiving any. I did a fairly exhaustive search on Flickr and found one photographer, “London Tom” who has posted hundreds of local photos including some period photos and illustrations: https://www.flickr.com/photos/londontom/ If you can make contact with him, it seems likely he would be one of the most likely locals to have additional photos of this house or knows someone who does. You could also ask the agent but those with lower priced listings often ignore anyone who is not there in person and/or a cash buyer. No agent likes “tire kickers” to take up their time. (not saying that you are, but just generalizing what agents have told me in the past) I could not find any photos of this house on Flickr but I believe its in a residential area and not on any main thoroughfare. If somehow you succeed in getting photos, I’d be curious myself to see what remains inside of the original house. It might surprise both of us. Good luck!

  58. dwr7292dwr7292 says: 397 comments
    1930 carriage house
    Bethlehem, CT

    DID YOU WANT TO MAKE US CRY CORA, DID YOU? Always remember my sarcasm knows no bounds. The roof is patterned slate and it is lovely. The house is likely 50 years earlier. Nice place.

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  59. Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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    1980/2010 board & batten modern

    Greetings all, I do not recall seeing this one posted in the last few days, all that it has been on sale for.
    I am VERY smitten with this one. From the lovely chimney to what dwells beneath it, a hearth you could live in. oh so smile

    1675, Topsfield, MA, 849,900

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/86-Howlett-St-Topsfield-MA-01983/56970511_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=491b81bf-f9ac-4fd6-96a4-c5b8cf86f04d~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

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  60. Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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    1980/2010 board & batten modern

    1855, New Bedford, MA, 269,900
    Italianate, I like the glassed in porch to the rear, another old kitchen stove, but it is partially hidden behind the table, love the tall paneled room-perhaps dining room and one last shot to love, the attic with that lovely window
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/546-County-St-New-Bedford-MA-02740/55998299_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=fbed3989-61f3-486c-bc17-ef5f680f4660~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

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  61. Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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    1980/2010 board & batten modern

    1925, Newbury, MA, 395,000
    lovely simple ocean side shingled house. Interesting vinyl (?) flooring, old cabinetry in the kitchen, I love the idea of bookshelves up the stair case, and that lovely window upstairs that frames the ocean so beautifully. Not an architectural wonder, but would be fun to inhabit.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8-Northern-Blvd-Newbury-MA-01951/56949667_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=a74ca876-4648-40ad-aaaa-7b73535c4115~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

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  62. Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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    1980/2010 board & batten modern

    1750, Scituate, MA, 350,000
    Nice little shingled cape, on the whole, simply beautiful inside and out
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/436-Chief-Justice-Cushing-Hwy-Scituate-MA-02066/57225833_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-SendToFriendHDP-hdp&rtoken=357f4338-a5df-4eb7-8355-922176ee7703~X1-ZUveo4kiegi2h5_46au8

    With that, I wish all of you a wonderful holiday! Kelly, I hope today is a better day for you, and you are on the mend.
    I get to visit with family down in the Berkshires in the 1830 I grew up in. Time to find a Christmas tree while there and strap it to the car to bring home. My near 12 year old has already strapped Christmas lights to the beams and stairs around our home. Cheers!!

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  63. JoeJoe says: 731 comments
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    1820 Federal
    Baltimore, MD

    There is a feature in Google Maps that I just noticed.
    When one looks at the street view, there is a little box at the top right with a small picture of the street view. At the bottom of that box it says street view. If you click on the little circle to the left, you can change the view back and forth from the most recent to past street views, (if there are past views). I don’t know if this is a recent change or if it has always been set up this way. I am posting this to the link in case there are others like myself who missed this.
    Am I just slow or did other people miss it too?

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11707 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Nope, been there for as long as I can remember. It’s a fun feature!

      • BethanyBethany says: 3313 comments
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        1983 White elephant
        Escondido, CA

        It seems to appear somewhat randomly. For example, my parents’ house in my hometown FINALLY got an updated street view after 10 years, but the old one is gone, there’s no slider to go back and see the former picture on the new street view page. Even though I KNOW there is an older picture. Which is frustrating “sigh.”

    • Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
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      1800 cottage
      Upstate, NY

      Interesting – I didn’t know, either..

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  64. TopperTopper says: 8 comments

    The Topsfield house looks like a living history museum.

    Here’s a 1937 tudor in Jasper IN for $159,900.
    This is a house for people that like wood. I mean really like wood. It has wood floors, wood walls, and in several rooms wood ceilings.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1431-Newton-St-Jasper-IN-47546/85220126_zpid/?

    Now I’m going to try the Google maps past views that I didn’t know about. There are no past views of my house.

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  65. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
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    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Welcome back, Kelly, and Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

    In the calm before the storm, with the turkey in the oven, thought I’d post a few more of the interesting places I found a few days ago:

    Here is a striking 1843 Greek Revival on 236 acres in Orwell, VT, recently reduced from $2.9 million to a mere 1.2 million. Apologies if it’s been posted before, but it’s too pretty not to be enjoyed again:
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5760_Orwell_VT_M37972-44590

    Also in Vermont, this attractive 1858 Second Empire/Italianate mansion in Rutland for $895,000. Buy it quickly before they do any more updates!:
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/86-Center-St_Rutland_VT_05701_M47540-09113

    In Perkinsville, VT, an 1872 Second Empire with a lovely staircase and original-looking stamped metal roof, with enough period charm remaining to make up for the inevitable updates. At a relatively affordable $199,000:
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2208-Route-106_Weathersfield_VT_M44631-11440#photo39

    In Woodstock, VT, an attractive and comfortable feeling 1853 Greek Revival for $339,000:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/51-River-St-Woodstock-VT-05091/75488388_zpid/

    In Royalton, VT, an 1802 Federal on six acres with lots of originality and a drop-dead gorgeous landscape complete with Koi pond for $595,000:
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/58-Bridge-St_South-Royalton_VT_05068_M38650-94499#photo0

    Finally, under the category of Save This House!, a slightly Gothic-looking 1850 farmhouse on 75 acres in South Pomfret, VT, for $250,000, for which the realtor is advocating demolition. No interior photos, but if someone’s in the area and inclined to take a look, please report back!:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2277-Stage-Rd-South-Pomfret-VT-05067/217743925_zpid/

    Enjoy the day, everyone!

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    • Miss-Apple37Miss-Apple37 says: 1119 comments
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      1875 Limestone house
      Langeais, Loire Valley,

      Love the stenciled room in the Royalton, VT Federal!!

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    • Kimberly62Kimberly62 says: 1169 comments
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      1980/2010 board & batten modern

      Barbara, Owell has been here before, but oh what a stunner, always worth another look, that staircase and wallpaper, the room seems empty save for the elegance of those two.
      Second Empire mansion, very smitten with the public rooms, stamped metal roof on the second is dream worthy, love the pictures of it. Love the 1802 Fed, great color choices in the house,landscape-wonderful, like the owl sculpture, and finally why oh why is the Pomfret house not worthy of saving?
      Great comments Barbara on nice shares

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  66. plasticsdanplasticsdan says: 15 comments
    1912 Classical Revival
    Houston, TX

    1912 Classical Revival. Houston, Texas.
    Been on the site before the last couple of times it has been on the market.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3904-Brandt-St-Houston-TX-77006/27746080_zpid/

  67. John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 5353 comments
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    1889 Eastlake Cottage
    Fort Worth, TX

    Said to date from 1867 (looks quite a bit older to me with a Federal era or Greek Revival mantel unless its a reproduction) is this house with a 1.3 acre lot priced at $99,500 in Brownstown, Indiana: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/522-W-Spring-St-Brownstown-IN-47220/112016304_zpid/? 1,896 sq. feet but with only 2 bedrooms.(?) I’d like to know about the history of this landmark house and property.

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  68. Barbara VBarbara V says: 662 comments
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    1800 cottage
    Upstate, NY

    Back again. (Not much of a TV/football fan.) Still stuck in Vermont – fascinated with the number of historic properties here! Well, heck, it’s New England, right?!

    Woodstock (VT) seems especially well-endowed, particularly if price is no object: Facing The Green, and bordering on the Ottauquechee River, is this 1803 Greek Revival with seemingly later Gothic-looking updates for $1.2 million. Despite some of the usual updates, it retains a very period appropriate appeal:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/23-The-Grn-Woodstock-VT-05091/75488410_zpid/

    And, another “Save This House” in South Londonderry on 1.5 acres for $41,000. Realtor says circa 1900, but it looks (on 2008 and 2012 Google maps) to be a few decades earlier, at least:
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/28-Melendy-Hill-Rd-South-Londonderry-VT-05155/75473714_zpid/

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    • John ShifletJohn Shiflet says: 5353 comments
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      1889 Eastlake Cottage
      Fort Worth, TX

      The South Londonderry House appears (from streetview which shows more details than the two weed choked photos) to be a straightforward Greek Revival house from the 1820-1840 era. The front facing facade shows the triangular gable with return ends often found in Greek Revivals. On either side, there are stylized pilasters also very typical of this popular early to mid-19th century style. The question to be answered is how much, if any, of the original interior remains. Regrettably, some agents have the impression that no one would be interested in a “before” renovation interior. While for many people that would be true, old house lovers appreciate period details more than a total makeover to modern. I would advise anyone considering this house and not living within a reasonable driving distance, should contact the agent and even if interior photos aren’t available, at least get a description of the interior and an idea of its condition. I sense that most of the listing value is in the land value. Thanks for sharing.

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11707 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Here’s an old photo of the Woodstock house: https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2019/05/31/1803-c-1900-woodstock-vt/

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