January 12, 2018: Link Exchange

Added to OHD on 1/12/18 - Last OHD Update: 1/12/18 - 193 Comments

Happy Friday! This is where you share your old house finds, articles or general chit chat.

How to share…
Link to real estate and sites that do not require you to register to view. Just paste the link in the comment box below, no HTML codes needed.

Keep email notifications from being marked as spam by sharing no more than 10 links per comment (you can make as many comments as you want just no more than 10 per comment.)

If the address doesn’t show in the link, also give us the address of the share (helps out if I go to post your share or if the listing site is down.)

193 Comments on January 12, 2018: Link Exchange

  1. Today’s old house photos are from a family album. The seller broke it up, sold pics one by one…this wasn’t even all of them (boating party, another view of the bigger home…funny, she had it marked at $14.99 before I bought the buggy photo last week)…many more not linked, she had a bunch of them at one point. These were one of the first photos I ever bought, overpaid but I didn’t know any better back then. I also now try not to buy from sellers that break up family albums, the buggy photo I purchased after I read Zola had died probably shortly after the photo was taken. It was like I needed to keep her with her family or something, just made me sad.




    14
    • Maybe less sad to be selling the pix off if they were posted somewhere together on a genealogy site for others to research and have access to. Still sad, and I feel ya.




      2
      • I was just contacted by the wife of one of my mother’s cousins, who she hasn’t seen or talked to in years. The cousin’s wife is doing the genealogy of my mother’s family, and apparently Ancestry.com told her we are cousins. I did the DNA thing through Ancestry, and that is how she found me. She told me they have lots of family pictures from the late 19th& 20th centuries. She is making me copies! I can’t wait to get them-but I so wish we had some sort of family album from that era, or a family bible.




        3
    • Life was incredibly full of that sort of sadness through all of history until the invention of penicillin & antibiotics — we take for granted how fortunate we are now. I always wonder how parents survived losing half or more of their children, but it was common. They marched on, emotionally maimed, because they had to. I read a lot of 19th century diaries & letters and heartbreak was the background to family life.

      It’s interesting to enter into this family as you have, Kelly — enjoyable to do. I like the pictures of their lives together. Judging from the houses, they seem prosperous & probably hard-working — just look at the hands of the old folks in the last picture. Mr. Curry’s watch chain is fab too. (I have a bracelet made by my aunt from her father’s watch chain.)




      6
      • I may have read Mr. Curry was an engraver (or maybe I misread? I’d go back and look but we are off to Home Depot and husband is impatient as I spent the last 2 hours doing more research. lol)




        3
      • I’ve read that, especially in hard times, on the frontier, or when some disease like the plague is out and about, people waited to name their children, sometimes a year or two. They wanted to see if the infants and toddlers would make it. I wonder if, because they didn’t name their children right away, parents felt less attachment to them. I can’t imagine that-named or not, I’d still love my baby so much.




        3
    • How sad she died so young. She looks absolutely charming. It’s just so sad that so many children didn’t live long in this era. I don’t know how the mothers could survive such loss. There is a very old graveyard at the top of my road and there are families with 5 or so children all gone at a very early age.




      2
  2. Ending the week on a downer. How incredibly sad that Millie and Williams children didn’t make it out of childhood, never had other children (at least from the records online.)




    6
    • My favorite “Friday old pictures” you’ve ever posted. You could start a whole ‘nother website of just this kind of stuff!




      5
    • Thanks for sharing the Denison, Texas, vintage photos. My Dad and his father were born in Denison and some members of his family settled in Grayson County (Denison isn’t the county seat-Sherman is-as far back as the 1850’s) In my childhood, we often visited family members in Denison which was an old KATY railroad town. The KATY railroad is gone and as far as I know, all members of my family who once lived there have passed away. I do recall (remembering from over 50 years ago) in my childhood that the large collection of Denison’s Victorian era homes fascinated me even back then so perhaps that helps to explain my continuing interest in Victorian era architecture. I’m not surprised in the least that this house is gone, nearly everything I remember from my childhood in Denison has long since disappeared. The town went into steep decline after the KATY railroad went bankrupt in the 1970’s so the town’s solution was to help improve the town’s image by embarking on a widespread effort to eradicate faded “eyesores” from the past to allegedly increase its appeal and reverse its diminishing fortunes. This costly effort yielded minor success with Denison now being only a shadow of what it was over a century ago. According to one source, Denison was larger than Dallas in 1890. It is about 80 miles almost due north of Dallas near the Oklahoma border. Where entire blocks of 19th century homes previously existed, today only an occasional isolated lucky survivor still stands. (the magnitude of that loss could probably be verified by looking over old Sanborn fire insurance maps and comparing with today’s streetscapes) I cannot help but feel a nostalgic sense of sadness at the permanent loss of the town’s heritage. Thank you very much for sharing.




      9
      • It’s a miracle that some of these old houses across the country have avoided fire, neglect, decay, “progress”, and a million other things that could spell the end of these treasures.




        1
    • Yeah… thought it sad enough about Zola dying at age 10, in the pic smiling away shortly beforehand. But then when I got to her sister, too – and as an infant, no less. There’s Zola at Lydia’s grave marker, and it’s known to us that she would soon follow. Jeez! Good thing the other photos mostly depict the people having enjoyable times!

      The house… very fancy/frilly trim on the gable – at least the one we can clearly see on the right.




      3
    • That part is a downer, but, what a good story Kelly and you did a lot of work on this, seems we know this family now. Millie and Willie, how cute. The last pic breaks my heart.
      Thank you for this.




      3
      • Where did you find that note? An 1896 directory put them at 1002 W. Ownings. From the historic aerials site, 1955 shows a house that might be the same design (it’s such a bad aerial, hard to tell exactly.)

        When I was looking around the area before posting, I thought maybe but it was backwards. When I look at the house you linked, even if it were reversed the back side doesn’t go back like that and even though it’s been really altered, the roof line seems steeper than the old photo house.

        Sanborn maps! Duh. Don’t know if I had looked before (these photos have been waiting for over a year, until I could better research.)

        https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/sanborn/d.html

        1897 showing where I think the home was located. Despite the porch not being shown in the corner, it later shows in the 1914 map.

        1914

        Here’s the home you linked too (the bottom, at first I thought the top might be it then I realized it’s showing as 2 story.)

        I also found another image of Zola in the back of a buggy. I didn’t notice before, her parents, Millie and William, divorced (maybe after she died?)




        5
        • Neither looks quite right – I give up!

          Yes, Will and Millie divorced and both remarried. And Will had married and divorced her sister Zetta before that!

          I was looking at a house a while back and found a funeral photo of a little girl in the parlor. It’s always sad to see but most large families lost children back then.




          4
          • That picture of Millie in front of the fence in the black dress and elaborate hat — my grandmother’s wedding picture was in a nearly identical outfit (although light in color). She was married in 1908. So based on that “evidence” I would suspect this photo was from around that year.




            2
        • Good researching! FYI, on Sanborn maps the color pink denotes a brick structure while yellow means wood/frame.




          1
    • This will make you smile- I found a set of photos in an antique store in NY from the early 1900’s. They were of a little girl whose full name was written on the back. Her baby photo, her with her new little brother 3 years later (and she did NOT look happy LOL) and her at age 9 with the little brother and a new little sister. 🙂 It was such a beautiful set I decided to research her in hopes of finding a relative to send them too. Well I found her FAVORITE NIECE who was now 78 and living in MA. Turns out Aunt Emily was the closest thing she ever had to a mom, and when I told her I was mailing her the photos she cried like a baby. They ended up in very good hands. 🙂




      23
    • Truly charming and perfection, I believe your right about the white painted wood, there are certain cases that are totally acceptable and this is one. It also belonged to an elderly person I’m guessing 🙂 My heart is into this one.




      0
      • The Streetview looks appealing and the almost one acre lot is a plus. It is located on a busy Main street (State highway) which looks busy so that is a potential negative. The house interior, despite the painted millwork, looks original and fairly intact. I have no idea about the local housing market so I won’t comment on the pricing. This house is a nice example of the late Queen Anne style. Thanks for sharing.




        1
    • One of my favorite homes seen on OLD HOUSE DREAMS! Thank you for posting. It is so compelling and beautiful.




      0
    • What a nice home. It looks well maintained and even though the listing says it has a heat pump I see a (our favorite) radiator in one picture maybe it has both. I was looking at the weather and it does get as they say in NC a dusting of snow 3 inches or so a year and not too hot in the summer. My partner is already retired and I am hoping to be in the next five years this small town looks promising. We will be keeping a watch on this house. It just went on the market and I love that kitchen but also the price is a little high right now. Of course a lot depends on maybe at that asking price the wiring and plumbing and other things has already been updated somewhat.It would of course be inspected before an offer being made. The way it looks right now give the house a good scrubbing and some fresh paint till we are both retired you would have a great summer home. The dog and cat metal thing is a weird boot scrapper I think but would be the first thing removed.




      0
    • I am in love. This one is just perfect and so romantic. Ashley I would have to keep the boot scrapers. They are just so cute and unusual. I would adore making her all shiny and new again.




      1
    • Once restored & the grounds also spiffed up, this house would be really beautiful again. Well, it is beautiful now, IMO, just needs help! And the large screened porch with its view is really cool.




      1
    • what a stunning house if someone will restore it, so many original features, which entrance is the front door




      0
    • Wow! Is this ever cool ! Do you think the oil furnace was burning a little too sooty? It looks untouched for the last 50 years, like a stumbled upon abandoned house untouched. Love it!!!!




      2
    • I love this house and some of the furniture. Looks lived in but also possibly abandoned, hard to tell. Once cleaned up, it will be a gem. Gold stars for preservation restrictions.




      1
  3. Anybody in the market for an Early American tavern? The Kelly Hotel has been a fixture of our little town here in the Lake Erie Highlands for 200 years. The place is surrounded by thousands of acres of grape vineyards, and there are several excellent wineries within a mile or two. It sits about a mile inland from the lake, right on the Pennsylvania state line:

    http://www.huntrealestate.com/home-details/10759-w-main-ripley-ny-14775/651-1-r1092001/




    3
    • Great project for somebody, (who hopefully has a VERY light touch). What a remarkable exterior chimney! Never seen that sort before. Thank you.




      2
    • No doubt OH YOUR WORD! Dang! That SanFranCali house is BEYOND. I don’t imagine that boy with the tower bedroom will be happy to give up his lair. The stained glass, (especially the center panel), is breathtaking. The beer baron in Milwaukee deserves an additional 150 or so pix. Thanks’ for the peek!




      3
    • I’ve driven by that first house, on Franklin street in SF, many times and wondered what it looked like inside. I couldn’t have dreamed it was like this! Thank you for posting.




      1
    • Those first two houses, and IMO most esp. the first one… “Oh my word!”… Wow, you weren’t kidding!! The woodwork, the newel posts, that incredible window… all of the details! And, floor plans, to boot!




      1
    • I remember that house on Franklin when I lived in SF years ago. Spectacular, as are so many of the houses in Pacific Heights. Thanks so much for the peak inside, truly wonderful to see it so well preserved.




      1
  4. Love a nice spanish home! This is an interesting place to find one too! The mountains where it snows!
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/984-Crescent-St-Placerville-CA-95667/18566884_zpid/?fullpage=true

    This house is a stunner! I’d love to see more. That wood is amazing.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/45-Bellevue-Ave-Rumson-NJ-07760/82748568_zpid/?fullpage=true

    Unique home with some lovely porches and setting.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/213-Huckleberry-Ln-Barrett-Twp-PA-18323/2091551549_zpid/?fullpage=true

    An adorable house.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2373-Pershing-St-Eugene-OR-97402/48400919_zpid/?fullpage=true

    Another adorable find. I wish there wasn’t so much paint on the built ins, but I am sure they can be uncovered.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2267-6th-Ave-N-Saint-Petersburg-FL-33713/47076870_zpid/?fullpage=true




    3
    • Love the staircase & its huge stepped windows of the second/Rumsfeld, NJ house. And the last one in St. Pete, FL is cute!




      1
    • I LOVE that wallpaper in the bathroom of the Strasburg home. Never thought I’d say I love wallpaper. This site always surprises me!




      1
      • Jennifer,
        Thanks for sharing an interesting assortment of old houses. The Hazleton, Iowa, house needs a lot of basic TLC but the interior appears to be fairly decent. Where else can you find a starter home for under $12,000? (some fees mentioned in the listing may require additional payment, but still… where else can one find housing priced at $6 a square foot and it not be beat to death inside?)
        For a paltry $75K, the Leipsic, Ohio, Queen Anne style “bricktorian” with added Colonial/Classical revival details looks like a great value but that would still depend on the interior condition and details which, alas, there are not any inside photos in the listing. Add back the original classical porch columns, make some porch repairs, (that beehive roofed porch pavilion is a real keeper) and you’d have a turn of the last century gem of a home.
        The Milwaukee house priced at $96,500 looks deceptively plain on the outside but packs quite a visual punch on the inside-what beautiful details!
        The 4,637 sq. foot towered Queen Anne in Wooster, Ohio seems very reasonably priced at $205K. It has beautiful interior details and appears to be move-in ready.
        Anyone who thinks that an old house has to cost a fortune is not looking very hard at what’s available on the current market. Despite the cold weather, this is a great time to find an affordable old house before the Spring buying season starts to push up prices and reduce the housing inventory.




        3
  5. This is said to be designed by the same architect who designed the MN state capitol. Former home divided up on Summit Avenue in Saint Paul
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/339-Summit-Ave-Apt-2_Saint-Paul_MN_55102_M79515-27791#photo22

    This is six blocks from the house I grew up in, in Saint Paul, MN.
    https://www.redfin.com/MN/Saint-Paul/65-Cretin-Ave-N-55104/home/51088513?utm_source=myredfin&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=recommendations_update&riftinfo=ZXY9ZW1haWwmbD02OTU4OTQ0JnA9bGlzdGluZ191cGRhdGVzX3JlY29tbWVuZGF0aW9ucyZ0cz0xNTE1NTExMzEwMTc1JmE9Y2xpY2smcz1yZWNvbW1lbmRhdGlvbnMmdD1pbWFnZSZlbWFpbF9pZD02OTU4OTQ0XzE1MTU1MTEzMTBfNiZ1cGRhdGVfdHlwZT0xNCZsaWxyX3Njb3JlPTAuMDA4MiZsaXN0aW5nX2lkPTc5MDkwODQ0JnByb3BlcnR5X2lkPTUxMDg4NTEzJnBvc2l0aW9uX251bWJlcj0w

    This one is said to by the first home in Ramsey Hill built with Steel Beam construction. Saint paul, MN.
    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/483-Ashland-Ave_Saint-Paul_MN_55102_M72556-64335#photo15

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/791-Holly-Ave_Saint-Paul_MN_55104_M87481-88442#photo23

    This one is a few blocks from the house my grandfather grew up in. Also in Saint Paul
    https://www.redfin.com/MN/Saint-Paul/567-Lincoln-Ave-55102/home/49995723?utm_source=myredfin&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=recommendations_update&riftinfo=ZXY9ZW1haWwmbD02OTU4OTQ0JnA9bGlzdGluZ191cGRhdGVzX3JlY29tbWVuZGF0aW9ucyZ0cz0xNTE1NTg5NzkxOTcwJmE9Y2xpY2smcz1yZWNvbW1lbmRhdGlvbnMmdD1pbWFnZSZlbWFpbF9pZD02OTU4OTQ0XzE1MTU1ODk3OTFfNiZ1cGRhdGVfdHlwZT0xNCZsaWxyX3Njb3JlPTAuMDEwMiZsaXN0aW5nX2lkPTc5MTAwNjI2JnByb3BlcnR5X2lkPTQ5OTk1NzIzJnBvc2l0aW9uX251bWJlcj0x




    4
    • Oops, the link where I didn’t write anything is already sold. The fourth one down




      0
    • Wow, good stuff MarthA. Nicely chosen. You have a great eye! 567 Lincoln is a brilliant specimen of it’s sort. It’s clearly architect designed; and a REAL STUNNER of curb appeal. 483 Ashland is a MASTERPIECE of Victorian / Craftsman transitional, residential architecture. I have rarely seen one with such a strong Craftsman, exterior aesthetic open up into THE most GORGE., stunningly well preserved, top-shelf, late Victorian interior. W O W. That – is something else again. Nice! Keep em comin. 🙂




      2
    • Thanks, MarthA! I lived in an apartment building across the street from 567 Lincoln (568) when my girls were babies. You can see it in photo 22. Loved it. Great Saint Paul homes today.




      1
  6. Lord! Someone PLEASE deliver this GORGEOUS house from B&B limbo:

    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/328-W-Main-St_Whitewater_WI_53190_M85365-04130#photo0

    +++ Check out this Waaaaaa, R A D, OMG, yeaaahhh, National Stove Works range!

    https://imgfave.azureedge.net/image_cache/1383953923198103.jpg

    A bit of Koerner’s folly-esque, brokedown heavenliness makes Rosewater happy:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a8/97/d4/a897d44d8f0f56ed144942845ac41b1b.jpg

    How about some mind blowingly gorgeous, sunny, mid-mod FABULOUSNESS – including the cutest little ceramic owl ever:

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1450-El-Mirador-Dr-Pasadena-CA-91103/20856073_zpid/?fullpage=true

    ++++++ FOR CAT PEOPLE O N L Y: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYmeNInDzTI

    🙂




    5
  7. I can’t stop looking at the photos you shared, Kelly. So poignant and yet so fascinating to get a good look at this family in their time. Most photos taken back then were stoic, posed shots. The candid shots (card game, having tea) are so interesting to me.

    Here’s a little slice of Midwest heaven:

    Waukegan, IL:
    https://zillow.com/homedetails/4816069_zpid/




    3
  8. Could I ask the OHDreamers for advice?

    My 1905 neoclassical needs a column repair; the columns are wood, and hollow.

    What kind of specialist does this sort of repair? This is in a very small town in mid-state South Carolina, and so far I haven’t found anyone (carpenter or otherwise) who can do it.

    Very grateful for any ideas or referrals!




    1
    • I am going to recommend Abatron for treating and restoring damaged wood. I use it, especially for damaged windows. I recommended it to a friend who used it for restoring his historic wood columns, and it solved his problem and saved him thousands from the estimates he otherwise got. It is a great resource for those who own old houses IMHO. Here is a link. https://www.abatron.com/




      7
      • I second James’ recommendation. Back when I was doing professional restoration work, I tackled a porch restoration project in St. Joseph, MO and took some photos of it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11236515@N05/albums/72157626297050108 The project required removal and repair of 21 columns and a couple of pilasters. Two of the (hollow) columns had broken down into a pile of staves while a few of the others had significant decay at their bases. I used Abatron’s Liquid Wood and Wood Epox exclusively (they can be intermixed in different ratios as well) and the following year (2006) the restored porch received a local preservation award for the owner. Be sure to also get some “Absolv” (aromatic Naptha) solvent/thinner which also can be intermixed with the two ingredients above. I used industrial epoxy and long screws to rejoin the staves back into a column. Ratchet tie-down straps helped to keep the reassembled column round. As far as I know, the porch remains in good condition over a decade later. I was also able to exactly match the original column color with a Benjamin Moore historic colors palette and the porch ceiling was painted in an appropriate blue. If we lived much closer, perhaps I could help but I’ll be happy to provide tips or suggestions. Its pretty straightforward-put up a temporary support, make sure the base is sound; a metal plinth that ventilates the hollow column is best. For the project, a local millwork shop made new bases out of pressure treated wood. Good luck with your project.




        5
        • John, are you still doing restorations and contracting up in St Joe? I’m down the road in Leavenworth and getting set to start in on a fairly extensive long term rehab of a large 160 year old house. Having trouble finding local contractors with the skills to tackle the historic aspects of what I want to do (or even return phone calls for that matter)..

          Even if not I’d like the opportunity to pick your brain on some restoration questions I’ve got




          0
          • Hi Scott,
            I went out to California from St. Joseph in the Spring of 2006 at the invitation of a preservationist friend who lived there. During the winter of 2006-2007 I was hired by the homeowner/landscape architect to custom build (with concealed seismic reinforcements) a replica Gothic Revival porch on the land-marked c. 1860 Greenwood-Winslow House, one of the oldest houses still standing in the city of Vallejo. Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11236515@N05/albums/72157604532024660 All I had to work with was a lone photo of the long missing porch taken around 1910. In the old carriage house, a fragment of a scroll sawn porch post element was discovered providing a design and scale reference to work from. A Coastal Redwood tree near the side of the proposed replica porch mandated a slight decrease in porch size. I hand-built the entire porch including digging the pier footings and all of the masonry work.

            To accommodate the homeowner who had connections in the highly paid trades sector across the Bay in San Francisco, I agreed to work for a much reduced rate which allowed me to take my time to ensure the project was the very best that I could make it. I even flew my son out from Texas to help me where extra muscle was needed, I paid him out of my pocket, so overall, it was not a very profitable project. Upon completing the porch project, the homeowners immediately relocated to Santa Cruz and put their house on the market. Making the connection to the restoration trades market in SF never happened, so by Dec. 2007, when I returned home to Texas, the Great Recession was in full swing and the only limited work I could find in California was installing kitchen cabinets. I essentially went into retirement back in Texas and have “rested on my laurels” since then. My hope has been to relocate to the Midwest and re-engage in these types of one-off restoration projects but, six realtors later, we are still trying to sell our Texas Victorian home. Given that I’m now in my mid-60’s, if a sale doesn’t happen soon, I’ll probably hang up my tool belt permanently. I’m still happy, though, to provide advice and share information for folks here if I can be of help. My email is vintrest at Yahoo dot com.
            Side note: You’re welcome, Daughter of George.




            0
    • Uncertain if you mean base, shaft, or capital that requires repair. Suggest you contact the State Historic Preservation Office in Columbia to see if they can offer referrals or assistance. I’m in the Upstate rather than Midlands, so doubt any of my folks could help.




      2
      • Thanks so much, Reneau — it’s the shaft of the column. I will indeed contact the SHPO. Appreciate your recommendation!




        0
  9. First saw this octagon house (mansion!) in Templeton, MA on Historic Properties http://www.historicproperties.com/detail.asp?detail_key=Netem001

    Then found it here – with an incredible price drop. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/Templeton_MA_01468_M49131-92620#photo5

    Unfortunately, the address has been removed, so I can’t give the Google Earth link. The photos of the staircase on the historic properties website are breathtaking.




    0
    • Love the NH house, everything about it from the siting all the way through. Thanks, Cheryl.




      1
    • I adore the little Wausau house. My husbands family hails from Wausau and I’ve been there a couple times to visit. WI is my favorite state. I would love to live in this little cutie pie. I really wouldn’t change much.




      2
    • Another really interesting group Cheryl. Thank you.

      The brick house is VERY desirable for many reasons. To have that much original fitted cabinetry is very unusual: and that it’s unpainted is a marvel.

      The Jonesborough property is SUPERB! I really hope it make it to OHD permanently. What a remarkably well preserved farmstead in such a BEAUTIFUL location. Good eye! 🙂




      0
    • Mary C. thanks for posting! I don’t know the answer to your window question, but I would buy this for sure if it was in Illinois!




      0
    • The big windows are not original. What could have been there were just double windows of the same size as the big window opening, rather than one big window so the trim around the windows could be original.




      0
    • Yummy, my favorite kind of house! It doesn’t seem that the assisted living owners have ruined it, at least the main living areas. They look gorgeous and well maintained.




      1
    • A bunch of nice ones! The New Paltz house’s DR mural… esp. pics 8 & 10; I went to college at SUNY New Paltz & that was the view from my dorm rooms’ windows.




      0
    • Good stuff RT! Thank you.

      Ridgway, Pa is surely a VERY fine house just loaded down with V E R Y fine details; and in spectacular original condition. They don’t get much better than that. However, my heart belongs to the A M A Z I N G house and carriage house in Newark, OH = WOW – WoW – W O W – just such an insanely amazing property I don’t know where to start. Outstanding!




      0
      • And the “Zestimate” is only $86,648 (!) …small wonder that these computer generated guesstimates using a proprietary algorithm formula are sometimes controversial. Its a fabulous hotel and is probably fairly priced for what’s offered. Always do diligent market research as the primary method of establishing market value; computers are no substitute for a professional appraisal.




        0
        • Actually John, for Hermann, MO; based on comps; that’s probably not far from real. This place is great; but also a GREAT example of “if you reeeeeallly want to over-improve THAT much, DO NOT expect to get much of it back at all”. Sad but true.




          0
          • I can only hope that Zillow either does away with the controversial “Zestimate” feature or can find some way to fine tune it better to match and reflect local markets.
            If I may use our Fort Worth, TX, property as an example, the same size property as ours next door sold last year to a developer for $800K; the house next door to us on the other side is listed with a realtor for $640K; our “Zestimate” is a mere $129K because the computerized formula doesn’t account for recent new development going up around us in our downtown urban market. I maintain that the Hermann, MO, Hotel should be worth far more than the Zestimate but thankfully, the real estate market relies on other types of information more than just computerized guesstimates for providing property values. I’ve also seen listings priced significantly less than the Zestimates so some sellers may feel they are getting less than they should. Might be better if Zillow provided a range of values for neighborhoods from lowest to highest so that the Zestimate could be compared to the two value ranges and thus could be more useful to prospective buyers. The Zestimate feature is most accurate in planned suburban neighborhoods where values vary little because most of the houses are the same in size, age, and features.




            0
    • Thanks’ Laurie; THAT is amazing! Somebody sure did spend a mint on making their perfect restoration / recreation come to life to house their VAST collection – – in ?, MO. = ? $1mil eh? Good luck with that. Amazing to see though – amazing.




      0
  10. When I inherited my parents and grandparents’ pictures, I went through them and divided by which extended family was pictured. After scanning those I treasured, I asked which “cousin” was that family’s record keeper and mailed them out. When asked why I got rid of them, my comment was “I don’t want to sit down in a Cracker Barrel and look up and see my family on the wall.” I don’t think I’ve ever been to an estate sale where there wasn’t a box of old family pictures and it’s sad no one wanted or cared. In the age of people spending hours on line watching cats be cute, the box of old photos becomes meaningless. One of the things I enjoy with OHD is it’s a group of people who still care about those things.




    8
  11. Kelly thank you for sharing the” found” family pics. much things are sad, but sharing them keeps a little bit of the memory of the subjects alive. Anyone interested in a view from the past- check out the book “Wisconsin Death Trip” – a compilation of late 19th century photos from rural Wisconsin. It’s a bit heavy, but fascinating.




    2
  12. Kelly-these photos are indeed as touching as any I have found-I was under-bidder on several intact family albums in a local auction recently with the intent to keep them intact. The successful buyer had them broken up and online within 24 hours (including the now-damaged albums). I’m glad you were able to share these…the bicycle in the corner is interesting. I’ve never come across one indoors in a photo of this period.




    1
  13. A few links a little bit late…
    Large craftsman foreclosure that doesn’t look too neglected
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1202-S-Ainsworth-Ave-Tacoma-WA-98405/49201624_zpid/

    This house may have been in link exchange in the past but it still for sale and am posting mainly for the incredible art glass in the stairwell.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/521-N-Yakima-Ave-Tacoma-WA-98403/49202703_zpid/

    A very bright, simple cottage
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/111-E-10th-St-Aberdeen-WA-98520/55046215_zpid/

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/100-S-Forest-St-Bellingham-WA-98225/23619963_zpid/

    Over the top luxury in the kitchen remodel, but the Tiffany fireplace surround is worth checking out
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1000-14th-Ave-E-Seattle-WA-98112/48725903_zpid/

    OK, 1976 is a bit late for OHD but this one seems to have the original furnishings and was likely a higher end version–3 pictures of the sunset seems to be a lot even though the view is incredible
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5047-SW-97th-St-Seattle-WA-98136/48666573_zpid/

    Frank Lloyd Wright in Boise
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3233-W-Edson-St-Boise-ID-83705/79642800_zpid/

    So many questions and so much potential…and as it indicates in the listing “dirt can be removed if desired”
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/600-W-Curling-Dr-Boise-ID-83702/79630831_zpid/




    1
    • The 5th listing, on 14th Ave… Agreed, that holly fireplace surround is amazing – just gorgeous!




      0
    • Thanks for posting these! I lived in the PNW for a long time, I have family still in Tacoma, and Aberdeen. I used to live around the corner from the one on 14th. Its fun to see some Northwest on here.




      0
    • Thank’s Jkleeb. Some interesting stuff.

      The Tiffany fireplace is TO – D I E – FOR. Really spectacular!

      + I’m with you on the seaside 1976 gem. What a FAB place. The couch alone is worth the price of admission: and I’m NUTZ for the DR light fixture = YUM! Hopefully someone who appreciates just what a fantastic total package it is will be able to buy it furnished and then NOT touch a thing. So great.




      0
    • That’s actually Marietta. I’ve passed that home since I was a kid. Was just a bit disappointed by the interior but my mom loved it, she grew up on the Smyrna/Marietta area and always loved that home.




      1
    • Wheeee really “DECORATED” but if you can afford that price you can afford to redecorate any way you want, still good basics




      0
    • Hi, Greg – Once I got past the packing boxes I was smitten. Such nice details. Hope a family who can appreciate the craftsmanship is soon moved in and unpacking!




      0
    • Same here. Not overly fond of stenciling, but this house is quietly elegant, and IMO its furnishings, incl. the oriental rugs, add to its warmth & elegance.




      0
  14. I’m inspired by all you history sleuths this week. Here is an interesting listing in Grand Rapids, MI. I was disappointed that there weren’t many photos of the interior, so I did a little sleuthing myself and found lots of great pictures in this MLive story from 2015 when the house first went on the market. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1353-Bridge-St-NW_Grand-Rapids_MI_49504_M48423-04390#photo0
    http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2015/12/twin_tunnels_lead_up_to_this_1.html




    2
  15. Jennifer HT, the Gothic house in Milwaukee, Wi has always been one of my favorites.
    Newberry Blvd was the premier boulevard in the late 19th century and it still is. They have a little hometown like parade on July 4th which lead to beautiful Lake Park. A small town touch in the big city. Alas it is only $1,495,000.00 too much for me.
    The Victorian in San Francisco is also gorgeous, the quintessential Victorian. Great finds! Thanks for sharing.




    0
  16. Those of you who love the haunting look of splendid decay…303 E Gaston St. Savannah GA




    1
    • Amazing property. Beautiful woodwork and built-ins. Amazing lake views. Worth a look even if you can’t afford it. I should think it is the 46,000 annual tax bill (per Zillow) which keeps it from selling (can that be correct?) The listing price seems reasonable, it’s the price of many a vinyl-sided McMansion.




      1
  17. I will be closing on this house in two weeks from today. I am pretty excited to get in to the house and backdate the kitchen and bathroom to around the build date. Also the wallpaper is going to get redone. I have other plans to bring it back to when Hermon Chapin owned it. I plan to get in touch with the descendants of Hermon Chapin and see if they have photos of what the inside of the house originally looked like.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/390-Main-St-NEW-HARTFORD-CT-06057/58862030_zpid




    7
    • Lovely! Congratulations. A very pretty house. We have a great relationship with the one family that lived in our house for 160 years. Lots of photos and 10 cd’s of kids’ memories living in the country. They call, email and stop in all of the time. I love it and try to record every new story. It means we have to keep the place clean and vacuumed but that works out for everybody.




      4
    • Congrats! Enjoy! Lots of curb appeal – incl. its garage. And… lots of wallpaper to strip! (I would also change it out.) I like the historical pic, too, of when its porch had awnings.




      3
    • Nice one Cora. A fine, SOLID house for sure. Nicely preserved: and with great wood work; a BIG old daylight basement; pressure steam heat; and a nice piece of ground; tons of great character; what’s not to love!? Love the old fashioned “air conditioning” too. Even I’d probably have to update that bit. 🙂




      0
  18. When I was looking at the house in Saint Louis that Greg Quagliara posted above. I came across this duplex yes it was built as a duplex in the early 1960’s the site doesn’t give a build date. The kitchen cabinets,that pink and green bathroom and the front doors look like they have not been touched since it was built.
    https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/St.-Louis-Hills-Saint-Louis-MO/pmf,pf_pt/2091571514_zpid/276586_rid/38.633768,-90.223675,38.522518,-90.385209_rect/12_zm/
    The house Greg posted could be a really a cool house, but it would take some getting used to the Zero Lot Line.
    I also found another duplex it has had some updates but the old “saying don’t judge a book by it’s cover” I don’t care for Saint Louis mainly the weather but I am looking for a place to retire in about 5 years. I am ready to tell the other half instead of N.C./how about St.Louis. There is just one word for the second floor Apt. WoW!! https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/St.-Louis-Hills-Saint-Louis-/pmf,pf_pt/3025358_zpid/276586_rid/38.633768,-90.223675,38.522518,-90.385209_rect/12_zm/
    The next house looks a lot like Gregs but maybe a little more room on the right side.
    https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/St.-Louis-Hills-Saint-Louis-MO/pmf,pf_pt/3024674_zpid/276586_rid/38.633768,-90.223675,38.522518,-90.385209_rect/12_zm/ I do apologize just as I was posting this house I realized it was a flip. That is one thing in looking for a place to retire we both agree no flips.It is funny before even looking for last sell date and amount on a property the photos usually give it away. The color gray and IKEA cabinets. I know not all but a lot of people that flip houses only see the finial $$ how much they made. The wiring, plumbing systems and other things are not correctly addressed. Most people know better than buy a house without a(one the buyer found) good inspector to go over the property not someone that the seller(the flipper) recommends. I know that sometimes someone buying their first home gets so wrapped up in the excitement they don’t think about such things,so always do your research. I will get off my soap box now.




    0
    • Wow, the level of creativity at work in this place is mind-boggling. I wonder what the grounds look like in the summertime… ?




      0
      • Eclectic indeed, at least in the interior. The exterior reveals that the part with the pedimented gable is clearly built in the Greek Revival style. That accords nicely with the 1836 listing date because the “national style”, as contemporaries described it, was at the peak of its popularity in the 1830’s. The interior is a bit more difficult to classify so eclectic is certainly a very apt term. Thanks for sharing.




        0
  19. This old estate just came on the market. I’ve been driving past it for years wishing I could get a better look and finally got my wish. It sits far off the road and hidden by trees, but I could see enough to tell it was in poor condition. The interior details are better than I expected, but it’s bit sickening to see how somebody really messed things up, painting over all the beautiful woodwork.

    https://www.trulia.com/property/5034215146-1141-E-Roy-Parker-Rd-Ozark-AL-36360




    2
    • Hi Ozzie,
      The Ozark, AL, house is obviously faded now but based on the fine details remaining it was undoubtedly a fine home in its day built with fine craftsmanship and having quality millwork. Perhaps the earliest phase of construction dates from 1903 but other interior details look to be from several years later as tastes were changing rapidly during the first decade years of the 20th century. In style, it has some residual Queen Anne elements augmented with Classical/Colonial Revival elements. Not an uncommon blend for homes built in the early 1900’s. It might take some substantial TLC but afterwards, you’d have a real gem of a home. If the next owner is lucky, he or she might find that the white painted millwork inside had the paint applied over the original shellac finish. Such painted over surfaces are usually fairly easy to strip because the white paint did not go over bare wood and soaked into the grain. This could be someone’s dream home if they are willing to pay their dues in restoration work.




      0
  20. Morning All, While looking at Gregg’s post above in St. Louis I found a really nice duplex. It looks like it must have been owner occupied since being built in 1955. The kitchen cabinets,the beautiful 1960’s green and pink bathroom and even the front doors,like the day it was built and clean as a whistle. https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5409-11-Jamieson-Ave_Saint-Louis_MO_63109_M88255-40583
    The next one if one needs plenty of room and ready to move in Build date 1890. https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Saint-Louis-MO/pmf,pf_pt/house,apartment_duplex_type/59983391_zpid/6891_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/38.922023,-89.865418,38.030785,-91.157685_rect/9_zm/
    The last one just because it looks so pleasant.
    https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Saint-Louis-MO/pmf,pf_pt/house,apartment_duplex_type/3025708_zpid/6891_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/38.922023,-89.865418,38.030785,-91.157685_rect/9_zm/

    Kelly you should have a button on here that we could push for a work excuse with a facsimile signature for being late sorta like a Doctor has. I am just kidding but once you log on you do not what to close it so late again. Thanks for a wonderful site and all the work you put in!




    1
  21. Wow OMG! When looking at the outside you would think run and don’t look back. I am entirely speechless(which is not easy to do). This place is huge and when you enter through not one but a double set of Oval glass doors plus two sidelites. This must have been mansion grade home at one time and could be again. The roof from the pictures looks good, just the porches need help.It must have been an elderly persons home.The paneling up stairs is not some cheap just thrown up type it looks like that knotty pine kind which in it’s day was very pricey. The house could with a very deep cleaning and good alarm system(looking at one of the front doors) to let people that like to breakin and steal that it is no longer not occupied. The house from the pictures could be after the cleaning and airing out be lived in and worked on with the front porch being addressed first.That mantel that is painted has a matching one unpainted in a bedroom in photo 38. That ceiling(photo 28 and 29) and I guess that bed in photo 42 has been sold.
    Ozzie I have a strange question but to me very important one. What kind of vibe or feel did you get from the house like comfortable,sad or hopefully not forbidding that sort of thing. The next question is what kind of smell did it have if any. I have looked at places in Florida that they chained smoked or had indoor cats that no matter how many gallons of KILZ® Primer to seal the walls some days the smell came back. I am interested in looking at this property but before we drive from Texas to ALA. It would good to know these things if possible.




    0
    • Ashley,
      I have not been inside. All those pictures were posted by the realtor. Someone actually still lives in the house or I would have been peaking in the windows. Ozark is a descent little town that seems to be making a comeback. Like many small towns, things seem to have gotten screwed up years ago with the lack of zoning in the historic district, but I think the city has made some corrections, because things have been improving the last few years. The area that this house is located is actually pretty nice. It’s surrounded by newer homes that range from 150,000 to 300,000. There’s a golf course not too far behind this property It may back up to it. Ozark is less than 10 miles to Fort Rucker and about 20 miles to Dothan, AL which is booming. Ozark has one street (Broad St.) with some beautiful historic homes, a few that are mansions. The city recently bought the biggest one and restored it and now it can be rented for functions. I think this house could become one of the finest in the area, especially since it’s the only old home of this type sitting on acreage. Up to this point, I don’t think too many people were aware of it’s existence because it’s not visible from the street and there are no other old homes around it. I’m thinking this house probably had even more acreage, possibly the golf course and subdivision that was built around it. I don’t see any chimneys breaking the roof line anymore, so I’m wondering if it could have possibly been moved there at one time. I know of a few other nice Victorians in the area that were moved out of this town to the country. One is actually at the end of this street going east.




      0
    • Nice and cozy sized Italianate cottage likely from the 1880’s. The additional 8 acres make this one sweetheart of a deal at $125K.




      1
    • Cora,
      I’m pretty sure this house was featured at one time on Old House Dreams. The folks that bought it were beginning the renovation of the house but eventually decided to put it back on the market. If it’s not that house, then it is almost identical to it. (meaning possible it was a published plan or early 1900’s kit house) I can envision this house fully restored in period colors. Might be worth a preservation friendly flip but those are rare. Thanks for sharing.




      0
      • Same house. They even had a blog once. I was so sad when I saw it went up as a foreclosure, then the current company purchased it (I guess?) I’m leery of their description so decided not to repost.




        0
        • Thanks for the update, Kelly. Let’s hope the next owners can see the renovation through to completion. It’s a fine period home crying out for TLC.




          0

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published.


*


Think before you type! Pretend the owner, the agent, your mom, your grandmother and the deity of your religion are standing in the room and what you are about to say you are saying to their face. If your comment does not add value to the conversation in a positive manner, it may not appear publicly. Also, read the comment rules & disclaimer before commenting (updated 1/3/18).

All comments are moderated and do not appear public right away. OHD does not represent this home. Price and status must be independently verified. Do not rely on comments about the status or condition of the home, contact the agent and see it in person.