May 26, 2017: Link Exchange & Discussion

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I also share an old photo from the header above and supersize it for you. This one only says "No Relation. Saint Charles?" on the back, written much later in pen. It looks like California to me. Maybe someone recognizes it? Share with us if you do!

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  1. Scott CunninghamScott Cunningham says: 395 comments
    1856 Tudor (fmr Victorian)
    Leavenworth , KS

    One thing that’s evident in these old pics is the pride these people had in their homes. Yep, some of them might have been modest at the time, but they show how the home represented the work ethic and professional standards of the owners. They all seem neat as a pin.

    Note the garden in the front yard. I’m not sure when grass front lawns came into vogue, but it was certainly after this pic.

    • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

      I too think the house conforms to a certain type of Queen Anne style cottage popular during the late 19th century in California and more broadly also found in West coast cities and towns as well as rural farmhouses. Despite many losses from earthquakes, total remodelings, and the ravages of time, a fair number of these ornate houses continue to survive sometimes even in isolated rural locales. I suspect a fair number were design sourced from published planbooks while others were built from stock plans offered by local builders. There appears to be only two colors used here but when the house was originally built it may have had more colors used for picking out architectural details. However, such a complex paint palette may have been simplified after 1900. During my time in California (2006-2007) I saw many similar examples in places like Eureka, as well as around the general SF Bay area. I recall one remote example, almost for certain originally a farmhouse, standing all by itself on a rural road outside of Sebastopol north of the Bay area. Thanks for sharing.

  2. SailorSally says: 1 comments

    1901 detached colonial brick townhouse in Brooklyn, NY. Original details blended with a modern take on the outdoor space. FSBO

  3. Chris Brandt says: 9 comments

    Here are few that just came on the market around Rochester, NY.

    Killer Queen Anne with a lot of original details:

    Early Federal/Greek Revival in the historic Pittsford Village. The owner of 40 plus years was the originator and founder of Genesee Country Village and Museum:

    There is also an awesome video tour of the property:

    • Laurie W. says: 1741 comments

      I grew up 4 houses up the street from this one; our house is about 20 yrs younger. I always wondered about the inside of this one, nice to have a chance to see what it’s like. In the 1960s it became derelict, in perilous condition. Everyone was delighted when it was bought & better yet, by someone who loved its history & restored it with judgment. Obviously it could use cosmetic fixing up but the incredibly reasonable price for Pittsford shows that. Great old village holding its own against the forces of development, for now.

    • Barb says: 12 comments

      love this home on augustine st!!!!

  4. Joe says: 748 comments

    Is St Charles the postmark?

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11932 comments

      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      No, it’s not a postcard this time but a real photo. It’s handwritten and looks like ball point pen.

      • Joe says: 748 comments

        Places named St Charles in the United States cut and paste from Wikipedia.
        St. Charles, Arkansas, town in Arkansas County
        St. Charles, Idaho, city in Bear Lake County
        St. Charles, Illinois, city in DuPage and Kane counties
        St. Charles, Iowa, city in Madison County
        St. Charles, Kentucky, city in Hopkins County
        St. Charles Parish, Louisiana, parish in New Orleans metropolitan area
        St. Charles, Maryland, planned community in Charles County
        St. Charles, Michigan, village in Saginaw County
        St. Charles, Minnesota, city in Winona County
        St. Charles County, Missouri, county in eastern Missouri
        St. Charles, Missouri, city and county seat
        Saint Charles, Ohio, unincorporated community in Butler County
        St. Charles, South Dakota, census-designated place in Gregory County
        St. Charles, Virginia, town in Lee County

        Maybe the experts can cut down the list. They can let us know if they recognize regional details.

        • RT says: 119 comments

          I went in a completely different direction in my head w/ “Saint Charles.” I wondered if the writer was scientifically minded and was referring to Charles Darwin? The man looks quite a bit like him to me anyway. I doubt that’s it, but that’s what popped into my head.

      • MW says: 906 comments

        To me it looks like California as well. And if I had to guess any further, I’d say Oakland or somewhere around there in the East Bay. It just has that kind of look about it.

        There is a Saint Charles Street in nearby Alameda. It definitely has some similar houses on it from that period. But on a quick google drive, I couldn’t spot one that seemed like a match. Here is the closest I saw.

        • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11932 comments

          1901 Folk Victorian
          Chestatee, GA

          Thanks MW.

          Does anyone know the reason California has so many of this style raised homes like this?

          • Marc says: 242 comments

            Not sure this is the answer, but this photo reminded me of old raised houses I’ve seen in Sacramento, which has a history of flooding problems. I think many places in California had bigger flooding problems before dams/levees/concrete channels were built.

            • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 937 comments

              1901 Folk Victorian
              Chestatee, GA

              Thanks. I’ve seen this style home in a few towns out there so wasn’t sure if flooding was the reason, didn’t think it was a problem in CA.

              • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

                I’ve seen a fair number of these types of raised Queen Anne cottages in Vallejo in areas never subjected to flooding-I think it must have been a local or regional preference. Where the topography slopes raising the front provided room for an extra basement room or two in the back of the residence.

        • Kevin says: 49 comments

          I second the motion for the potential of being in Oakland. There are so many extant examples that look identical to this one.

  5. Lindsay G says: 556 comments

    I’m not big on the Spanish-type homes but this 1915 Spanish revival was pleasantly surprising!

    A rather pricey 1908 mansion but just look at that staircase!

    A 1903 huge stone castle-like structure with another amazing staircase!

    I usually love Tudor style homes but I’m not sure about this 1923 one. The fireplaces are magnificent though and the great wooden study is impressive. I’d spend all my time in there!

    And this home built in the 1900’s is a definite fixer-upper but has some beautiful qualities!

    • Joe says: 748 comments

      Are you sure that last house is not 1890’s? It has “the look” to me, as well as the two small windows seem like a pair of comic eyes looking at me.

      • Lindsay G says: 556 comments

        Guess it could be. It said 1900 on the site so that’s what I was going by. I’m certainly no expert when it comes to the building dates on houses.

        • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

          Lindsay, “1900” is an often used generic date for houses from the late 19th century until about WWI. (c. 1915) a more thorough search through available records would probably turn up a different date although in some areas, a house like this would not have been uncommon in 1900. The window and door casings omitting corner blocks/rosettes suggest at least a later 1890’s date although they could date from a remodel. The interior fretwork and stained glass windows accord with a turn of the last century date but again, looking in deed records or archival sources would likely reveal the actual construction date. Some neighborhoods that were early suburbs can also be dated generally if the neighborhood history is known. R.E. listing dates are notoriously inaccurate; the city records for our house shows a 1902 date but I have a copy of the original builder’s mechanics lien dated October 15, 1888 so I deem that to be more reliable.

    • Gail M says: 200 comments

      That last house – 401 W 5th St. – do you think there was some kind of fear of extra-terrestial intelligence going on by the previous tenants? It’s in a hot neighborhood, but I’m appalled at the price.

    • Scott Cunningham says: 395 comments

      Ridgeway Rd house is amazing!!

    • Laurie W. says: 1741 comments

      The wonderful 1st house wouldn’t be such a surprise in California — unusual in Ohio. Well preserved for the most part — I love that they left the curved counters in the bathroom.

  6. Sarah M says: 45 comments

    This house is in the town I grew up in and has always been my favorite house ever. It is on the market for the very first time.

    Pictures are here:

    And some additional information about the house that talks a it about how it’s heated with geothermal heat is here:–the-first-geothermal-home

  7. Matt Ziehnert says: 105 comments

    Very Excited to announce that my partner and I will be closing on this beautiful home next week 🙂

    Originally constructed in the 1890’s it was built as part of the exclusive Mamakating Park Inn and Club. The massive Shingle Style hotel was originally across the street from my new house, but it was burned to the ground in the 1980’s. Here is a historic photo of the hotel
    And here is some info on the historic district it is a part of

    I wish I had a vintage image of my house though, however I have yet to find one.

    The house is a typical shinglesque type Catskill vacation home, it still retains most of its Douglas Fir Beadboard interiors and stone fireplace. Love how rustic it is. I can’t wait to decorate! Ahh so excited.
    I was doing some research and I found a really cool video taken in the 1950’s by a very happy family enjoying their summer at the Inn.

    • Matt Ziehnert says: 105 comments

      The video is actually taken in the front yard and porch of the house

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11932 comments

      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Congrats! I can see why y’all are buying it, love rustic houses/rooms like that!

    • Laurie W. says: 1741 comments

      Terrific house, Matt! Congratulations. It looks so warm & welcoming, and just down the road from the lake. Perfect in all seasons! You’re sure to enjoy living there.

    • Jenny says: 145 comments

      Best of luck to you and your partner in your new home! It looks very special and unique.

      • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

        Congratulations, Matt. I know the road leading to this home has been long and winding but I’m glad you did not give up until you found “The One”. I’m wishing you and your partner the best as you begin your new adventure in this house. Sad to learn about the Hotel being lost, though.

  8. Tim says: 71 comments

    First off, I have to say that it has been a joy to visit this site. I’m no aficionado when it comes to historic houses, but I do enjoy musing on what I would do to up-date any of the fixer-upers while maintaining the historic fabric of the house.

    At any rate, this week I would like to toss in a few of my favorites. I lived in Rochester New York for about 20 years, the majority of which I lived in rentals on Lake Ontario. Thus, when I look at real estate, I tend toward the water front.

    This old light house currently operates as a B&B. The architecture is clearly Victorian in style, and one of the aspects I find interesting is that because it was a municipal structure, it was overbuilt. Two things about this structure that seem a bit of a disappointment are that first, the tower is significantly shorter than the original. At some point in its history, it began to collapse, and was taken down to the level of the top of the first floor. I’m not sure, but I think the current owner rebuilt it (hence the price), and though it now stands proud of the roof, it’s a few yards below its original height. The second disappoint is the sort of day room that was attached to the front of the house, which upsets the Victorian aesthetic and obfuscates the original intent. I don’t know when it was added, but historic photos do not have this addition in place.

    Zillow has the house listed, but the handful of pictures hardly do it justice. The link below has, in addition to many more pictures, a 3-D virtual tour that includes both the basement, as well as the tower:

    This second house is down the street a bit from one of the houses I rented. I’ve driven my car, ridden my bike, and walked past it countless times, and during my time the masonry wall on the road-side was not there, though it does seem to be a tasteful addition to the structure. It clearly has a sort of cape feel to it, and though the updates to the interior all make sense, and though I would characterize them as beautiful, they don’t really fit my aesthetic. The one thing that stands out in my mind, however, is the broad expanse of sandy beach at the front of the house. Explanation: Rochestarians who live on the lake refer to the lake-side of the house as the front, and the road-side as the back.

    The link here has both photos and video; I’m partial to video because it gives me a clear feel for the house. Again, this house is listed on Zillow if you are inclined to look it up there:

    This last one has just entered the market and I only have the Zillow link for it, but it sort of struck my fancy. I’ve never seen it in person, but I do enjoy the cape style, and this one has what appears to be cedar shake siding. There is a shed dormer on the lake-side, which confuses the aesthetic a bit by mixing it with the gable style dormers, but all of the updates inside appear to be consistent with the historic style of the aesthetic. I also like the guest quarters above the gambrel style garag:

    • StevenFStevenF says: 820 comments
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      1969 Regency
      Nashville, TN

      Cool homes. The lighthouse is spectacular. I love the exterior of the third home, but would like to roll back some of tha “open” floor plan remodeling that has occurred.

    • Scott Cunningham says: 395 comments

      Wow!!! Thanks for posting one of the coolest listings I’ve ever seen on this site. Blown away!!!

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6678 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Thanks’ Tim. I’m not into lighthouses, but that one is pretty cool. Love the “page boy” stair in what I assume is the office annex. Imagine trying to get that approved by today’s code enforcement – heheheh.

  9. BethanyBethany says: 3512 comments
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    1983 White elephant
    Escondido, CA

    Another beautiful home slated for demolition.

    • Daughter of GeorgeDaughter of George says: 1041 comments
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      1905 Neoclassic & 1937 Deco

      Bethany, thank you for the article on Bon Haven. I am a South Carolinian, and even having lived in the Upstate, I never knew about this mansion. It is indeed a terrible loss. Even in decay, the home’s grace and beauty are still palpable.

    • peeweebcpeeweebc says: 1080 comments
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      1885 Italianate.

      I sure hope the Palmetto Trust can come through on this, terrible shame! I love the the last paragraph of the article, no truer words were ever spoken.

    • Bethster says: 871 comments

      That’s so sad. It looks like so much of it is in good shape! But I know not all damage would be visible.

      I’m glad that the 1927 theater may be saved!

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6678 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Damn shame. Whoever left that place to rot like that deserves a good spanking. What a really great summer kitchen. Sad. Thanks’ for the downer Bethany 😉

    • Jenny says: 145 comments

      A couple who specialize in restoring homes like this for B&Bs or something similar made an offer to buy Bon Haven, but the owner won’t entertain it. It is indeed sad to find a place with such beauty and realize it might not be preserved. I’m hoping the demolition will not go through.

    • BethanyBethany says: 3512 comments
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      1983 White elephant
      Escondido, CA

      This is so lovely and full of history (even if the ubiquitous underground railway connection and Indian burial ground stories are somewhat suspect); I feel so powerless when I see homes like this that rip my heart out in their abandoned and neglected state but I have no resources or ability to do anything about it.

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6678 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Thanks’ Bryan. That Speakman house is quite a project. While on the landmarks site, I noticed the “Newkirk Mansion” in Connersville is now on their list which is really a shame; especially since I was under the impression that it was being cared for and restored. If you’re fond of big, looming, 2nd Empire mansions – check it out. I was in that house back in the early 90’s and took a few pix I’ll link to. I don’t know why Landmarks doesn’t post more than a VERY FEW pix of these places when trying to find an investor = duuuuhhhh
      Sure wish I’d gotten a photo of the solid oak, free-standing, spiral stair which rises up in front of the 2nd floor tower window into the tower. When I was there, there was a separate brick summer kitchen / spring house with a still flowing artesian spring running right through it in back of the house. Can’t believe this one is being LEFT TO ROT!

    • BethanyBethany says: 3512 comments
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      1983 White elephant
      Escondido, CA

      This is my absolute dream house; again, I feel so powerless to do anything about it and it makes me so sad. I totally understand the obstacles to restoration and maintenance of houses like this, and how they get to this state, but it hurts my heart to see it.

      • Scott Cunningham says: 395 comments

        Looks like the house is basically up for grabs. Often these end up as property of the county or town, and they just want someone to own them, hopefully repair them, and put them back on the tax roles.

        House like this would probably require a ton of work, but if you had the will, you could get into a house like this for next to nothing.

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6678 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Hah! Guess I should have read ahead! Thanks’ Bryan.

      • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

        Interestingly, we were driving through Connersville a few weeks ago on our way from Richmond. IN to Rushville, IN. I stopped and took several photos of a brick towered Queen Anne on the main thoroughfare through town featuring a very ornate fretwork adorned porch. (photos to be posted to Flickr soon) I also noted several old houses-in-distress in Connersville that if restored, would be fine examples of their styles. Somehow, I wasn’t even aware of this grand Second Empire. It must be on the outskirts of town, right? It saddens me generally that so many once proud homes from the past are in the going, going, almost gone stage; a precious few will ever have a chance for restoration and survival. I think that collectively as a culture, Americans pay too little respect towards their architectural heritage. Folks in the U.K. and in most of Europe would not commonly allow such losses to happen although I’ve seen a few that appeared to be badly neglected. Typically, owners with good intentions but lacking resources allow them to severely deteriorate before they come to the realization that they are going to be lost unless immediate intervention occurs. Indiana is fortunate to have a very proactive preservation organization, Indiana Landmarks, or their losses would be even more severe. Ohio has lost hundreds of thousands of neglected and deteriorated structures in recent years after the State of Ohio decided after the 2007-2008 mortgage loan crisis/recession that mass demolitions across the state were preferable to trying to preserve some of them. We need an army of people willing to roll up their sleeves and save some of these faded landmarks but there are sadly more endangered properties than there are people willing and able to restore them. The loss of that Connersville Second Empire mansion would be especially painful. (a pox is wished upon the miscreants who set fire to the impressive carriage house!)

        • RosewaterRosewater says: 6678 comments
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          1875 Italianate cottage
          Noblesville, IN

          I know – right! ***. If only they’d smoked a doob and stayed home.

          The carriage house was the only part of the property we didn’t get to see. It was a series of apartments. I insisted my BF at the time pull over and let me snap some shots when we drove past the place, – It was tooooo good to resist, (as you I’m sure can relate). He sighed and acquiesced to my obsession, (he really was a good sport); but then started walking UP the drive and getting in my frame. I asked what the h he thought he was doing. He said he wanted to see inside it and was going to ask for a tour = brass ballz! Amazingly enough, (and why I’m no longer shy about politely asking), the young couple with their two or three little kids bouncing around welcomed us in and let us wander about laissez faire. Wander I did. My BF regretting his initiative after an hour or so – heheheh. The place is magical. It sits WAY up a rather steep hill in a sort of canyon with a sort of valley a little more than half way up; then with the hill continuing upwards in an even steeper fashion on the sides and in back. The little valley is probably an acre and a half to two, and the buildings above quite out of perspective affording amazing privacy, (especially with summer trees). The front elevation faces due East with a commanding, (as you can see from my pic on the flat bit of roof from behind the tower), view out over the town and beyond. It’s really something.

          I imagine you must have been heading East on 44 through town. John, I’m sorry to say that you missed it by 1/2 block. Just as you come into town on 44, you would take a left on Western, go North about 100′, and to your left, – thar tis;

          Next time, ( —– hopefully, sheesh). 🙂

          (admin edit)

          • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

            Hmmm…I vaguely recall seeing something Victorian through the trees as we climbed the hill going towards Rushville. I had no idea that it was so wonderful as the Newkirk mansion. The ornate brick Queen Anne I mentioned was on 3rd Street; the streetview really doesn’t do it justice: Depending on its interior, if it ever goes on the market, that house would be a very strong contender for our future home. The porch fretwork, although deteriorated, is nothing short of phenomenal. I’d almost volunteer my work to save it. I’ll certainly have to go back to Connersville for another look. Based on your story, I now wish that that I had walked up to the 3rd street Queen Anne and meekly asked for a tour. However knowing my luck, (or better, the lack thereof) the owners would have probably responded to my tour request by releasing a couple of crazed Dobermans to send me packing. A few people in the past have asked me not to take a photo of their house (I always complied) but only one guy watching me through his screen door actually jumped in his pickup truck and went chasing after me (in Bonham, TX) after I took a photo of the town’s only Second Empire style house-luckily, I eluded the crazy guy and got out of town ASAP. Some people’s notion of their private property rights borders on the psychotic.

    • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

      I spoke to Jim Orr in Connersville, IN, this evening. He’s a very nice gentleman and a dedicated preservationist. He provided some information about the Newkirk mansion that was not very encouraging. He concurs that the faded mansion needs a replacement roof ASAP. He said the second floor stairs feel “spongy” and one can look up at the sky from upstairs. This is one time when I really wish I had the resources to step in and save the faded landmark home. Mr. Orr threw out an estimate of $2 million to fully restore the house and the remains of the carriage house. That sounds awfully high but then I haven’t seen the house in person. There was another house in Connersville that I had contacted him about (but information was scarce) however, I was glad to have spoken to him about the Newkirk mansion. It is deservedly on Indiana Landmark’s most endangered list and I sincerely hope someone can step in to save it before its too late. I feel a sense of helplessness and sadness when I see once grand homes like the Newkirk Mansion approaching the going, going, almost gone stage. Had someone intervened several years ago a very expensive restoration project would have been far less costly. Connersville is an interesting town. Mr. Orr informed me the entire downtown is now on the National Register of Historic Places. He also said a mid-19th century church would soon be available for a nominal amount but adapting and repurposing deconsecrated churches is not my forte`.

      • Joe Bender says: 5 comments

        We took a tour of this property in late June. At the time, they had a buyer, so I did not go into the basement, or pursue getting a quote for the roof repair. We learned a week later that the deal had fell through. The masonry is in excellent condition, almost all of the walnut woodwork is unmolested. It has all the typical problems of peeling paint, some plaster damage, no bathroom, no kitchen, no furnace, minimal electrical service, etc. The carriage house is redeemable, masonry is not damaged, and it was four or five bricks thick. I estimate $330k to restore the house.
        The immediate need is for a new roof, which includes an unknown effort to repair the built in gutters, and boarding up the broken windows. I have never seen a house more worthy of restoration, though it would be a labor of love.

        • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

          Thanks for the information, Joe. Its disappointing to hear that a sale which could have rescued the highly endangered house fell though. Because discussing renovation costs is frowned upon, I will only comment that I think your figure is closer to reality than the $2 million suggested by Rev. Orr. On the other hand, there is at least in theory no upper limit to how much can be spent on a house renovation/restoration but I do think your figure would make it habitable if not completely restored. I also agree making the roof sound is job number one because no interior work can be successfully done when the roof leaks. Last, Indiana Landmarks, many local preservationists, as well as you and I all concur that if there is any house worthy of restoration in Connersville then it would be the Newkirk Mansion. I hope someday to tour the faded mansion after it has received the TLC it deserves.

  10. CharlesB says: 481 comments

    Fusion Cuisine–Here’s your classic 1840s Greek Revival country estate in Upstate New York–temple front with flanking side wings, the whole bit. It’s set on 79 acres, three hours from NYC and 45 minutes from Albany. BUT–the interior was redone in a 1953 Sky King Mid City Modern motif, even to the point of replicating some of the Greek Revival mouldings in teak and rosewood. Definitely one of a kind. Priced at $169,900:

  11. Mardib says: 25 comments

    I have become so smitten with this site since I saw the Masonic temple in little falls, ny pop up on a friends Facebook feed. So much my family and I are thinking of selling our home in Seattle and moving to a smaller town.

    Does this knowledgeable group know of smaller towns, with great schools and progressive liberal values? Of course it would have to be full of fabulous old homes.


    • Sharon says: 318 comments

      I’d investigate this site to start:

      Don’t let the word “hippie” throw you off. Just cool towns with much to offer. (Personally speaking, I think the world could use a few more “hippies” these days.)

    • Lancaster John says: 846 comments

      Are you willing to consider anywhere in the country? If you can deal with the cold, upstate NY and northern PA have good prices and lots of interesting properties. If you want warm, parts of the deep South are good choices too. I think you’ll get a lot more advice if you give us a bit of guidance about what your needs are…however, small towns that are progressive and have great schools are not an easy find anywhere.

    • Scott Cunningham says: 395 comments

      Tons of small towns out there. Many have lots of fantastic old houses. Not sure about the liberal values part, that’s usually more of a city thing, but I’m betting if you seek out places in heavily liberal areas like Vermont, Colorado, or maybe Washington state, you might have some luck.

      For me towns of about 30,000 are the sweet spot between “small town”, and “big enough” for shopping, schools, stuff to do, etc…. having a major metropolitan area within a 30-45 min drive a big advantage.

      If you don’t need the big city in proximity, check out Western PA. There are some amazing houses there out in small towns. Same for KS.

    • EileenM says: 290 comments

      You might check out Skaneateles, NY. Sits on the northern end of Skaneateles Lake. Beautiful old homes and many good restaurants. By central New York standards, real estate there is pricey, but from what I’ve seen of real estate prices in the Pacific northwest, they may seem reasonable to you.

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6678 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Good luck finding your new home. Stick to college towns, especially in red states. I can speak for central and southern Indiana. Bloomington is the only true progressive city in the state, but there aren’t many great old homes. The only other place I know of in Indiana is Greencastle. It’s a lovely little liberal arts college town/city only 30 minutes West of metro Indy. It’s in great shape and full of good people, and there are some really great old houses too CHEAP (comparatively). Here are a few examples currently on the market:


      • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

        I can vouch for Yellow Springs and Athens in Ohio as being liberal/progressive laid back communities in Ohio from some of my greying long haired Buckeye acquaintances and friends. I think there are more progressives in Indiana’s college towns like Crawfordsville and who can deny a Hippie vibe being found in a touristy, riverside Indiana town like Aurora which has had the one and only “Hippie Bobs” store on its main street for many years. (photo I took: ) “Progressive” enclaves can be found from New York to California but as Jeff/Rosewater states, culturally liberal areas are most often found in college towns. I really liked Jacksonville, IL for its youthful vibe (photo: ) but the high Illinois property taxes are a negative to an otherwise very pleasant community. For the most part, people are accepting of others in many areas but it may boil down more to who your next door neighbors are than the perceived culture of the community. We must not forget that conservative icon Ronald Reagan was the former governor of California, the original home of Hippiedom. In summary, do not narrow your searches based on the perceptions of others; explore on your own until you find a comfortable setting and folks who share your values. Good luck in your search.

        • RosewaterRosewater says: 6678 comments
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          1875 Italianate cottage
          Noblesville, IN

          Crawfordsville — really? 😉 You know they revere their sainted Lew Wallace right? JK Heheheh

          • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

            Perhaps so, but the town was called “the Athens of Indiana” a century ago and it does have some cool neighborhood hangouts like this Delicatessen on College and Water Streets: But I defer to your judgement because my knowledge of Crawfordsville is minimal-I only cited it because it was known as a center of education. The General Lew Wallace House is a phenomenal Victorian, you’ll have to admit.

  12. Teri R says: 281 comments

    1875 — Take a peek at this amazing value in Illinois. If I was ready to move for a house… this would be at the top of my list! LOVE the exterior. Needs work but the price is only 69,900.

    715 N 4th St, Pekin,fsbo_lt/house_type/5305221_zpid/21_rid/1_days/1700-1915_built/1_pnd/priced_sort/43.826601,-80.81543,35.523285,-97.712403_rect/5_zm/2_p/0_mmm/?

    • SueSue says: 1127 comments
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      1802 Cape

      Clearly it is livable so you could do the work while living there. I like that the outside hasn’t been “improved”.

  13. JullesJulles says: 535 comments
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    Another beauty from Tarboro, NC. You have to see the dinning room.

    I love Preservation NC. Why can’t all states have one like it.

  14. Sarah M. says: 11 comments

    This home is for sale on my father’s street in Stevensville, Montana. We don’t have home like this where I live in Palm Springs, California!

    100 College St, Stevensville MT 59870

  15. Tarek Raslan says: 1 comments

    Lovely early colonial stone house circa 1704 in Connecticut. This was a early colonial meeting house and impromptu fort.

  16. SandyF says: 134 comments

    I agree! I live in SoCal-it is getting too busy and crazy. I live in a lovely historic district, but when my late night quiet turns into the sounds of a freeway and busy street-I need tranquility.
    Seattle is beautiful, the islands outside your door, the water, great houses, but it too is a busy city. My son lives there and I love it. I would be on Orcas or Vashon. I search daily for my shangri-la -solution. But my qualifications are a challenge to fill. Old house, downtown, liberal ( very important) good property taxes, farmers markets or farmstands, not too extreme weather, affordable. So-not an easy list to fill. CA is soon expensive ( as is Seattle) When you find it-please share!! I’m in! I look forward to saturday when I can check out these wonderful houses you all share. Thanks to all of you that contribute. With that-here is a few CA homes:,-115.447083,32.544497,-120.248108_rect/7_zm/1_rs/1_fr/?,-115.447083,32.544497,-120.248108_rect/7_zm/1_rs/1_fr/?,-115.447083,32.544497,-120.248108_rect/7_zm/2_p/1_rs/1_fr/?,-115.447083,32.544497,-120.248108_rect/7_zm/3_p/1_rs/1_fr/?

    • Bethster says: 871 comments

      The Zillow links don’t work—at least, not for me. I suspect, from the “savedhomes” in the url, that they’re homes you’ve saved and other people don’t have access.

    • Bethany Otto says: 3512 comments

      No trouble with the Zillow links here. I love the Redlands house, and it has such a great kitchen. Just drove through there today actually. It’s a nice college town with lots of lovely older homes.

      • Bethster says: 871 comments

        Huh—that’s interesting! I’m on a different computer now (at work—shhh!) and I still can’t see them I get a sign-in page. Do you have a Zillow account? That might make a difference, since I don’t.

    • SueSue says: 1127 comments
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      1802 Cape

      Sandy, what nice houses. I really love the Redlands house. Just beautiful and the bathrooms and kitchen have not been spoiled. Such a lovely peaceful house. I wonder what the house in the last picture is? I couldn’t find it in the description.

  17. Noelle says: 25 comments

    An 1847 plantationhouse in Florence, Sc. Not sure how sound the structure is (looks ok to me) but it does need work.

  18. JRC says: 145 comments

    Interesting article about a 157 year old Italianate farmhouse in Grand Rapids, MI. Article describes owners reasons for changes he has made.

    • SueSue says: 1127 comments
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      1802 Cape

      Oh my, he got rid of the gorgeous crystal chandeliers that came with the home. I wish it still had it’s tower too.

  19. Cora says: 2064 comments

    OK, what’s the most efficient, effective way to persuade the agent to post interior photos? I’ve got to see inside this one! Help!

    1341 W Arch St,
    Coal Township, PA 17866
    6 beds · 2 baths · 3,128 sqft

  20. Cora says: 2064 comments

    The listing says it’s a tear-down, and it probably is. But there’s something about it – especially that last photo – I still wanted to share.

    642 Cherrytown Rd,
    Westminster, MD 21158
    2 beds · 2 baths · 600 sqft

    • Joe says: 748 comments

      Dear Cora,
      I love to see what you post because I never know whether you have found a million dollar property or a cheap fixer. I am from Baltimore, and am less than an hour from this property. The land is beautiful, but the house is also interesting. The realtor is missing the fact that one could build on this lot and turn the existing house into a studio of some kind. This certainly has some age to it, and I for one wouldn’t mind seeing the inside to see what he means by a tear down. Is it termite infested? I’d like to know what the deal is. Thanks for posting this one. I may go see it.

      • Cora says: 2064 comments

        Joe, I’m jealous you are close enough to visit this property! If you do venture out, I hope you will post photos! Like all old homes…this one must have a lifetime of stories.

        • Joe says: 748 comments

          Cora, I am going to see it Thursday at 2. I will take pictures and post them on flicker for you. I am fortunate because my realtor is willing to show me houses even though she knows that I have no intention of buying at this time.

          • Cora says: 2064 comments

            Even if all that is left of the old house is just a shell, it will be a fun and interesting adventure at the very least. 🙂

            • Joe says: 748 comments

              I went, I saw, I photographed, I wrote about it, and I posted about it on this week’s (June 2) OHD link and exchange. Thank you so much for finding this cubic zirconia in the rough.

  21. Bethster says: 871 comments

    I found this 1910 Victorian in a town called Weems, Virginia, which is on the Rappahanock River near the Chesapeake Bay. It looks like it’s in great shape, in terms of the woodwork, but the kitchen is perfunctory at best, and I’d redo the baths. The listing says that this is a Sears Maytown house. I looked up Maytown and it looks different from this one, but I’m not really knowledgeable about Sears houses so I defer to others who are.

    I love the grounds and how close the river is.

  22. Lancaster John says: 846 comments

    Philadelphia day. This city has extraordinary homes, many at reasonable prices, considering its location midway between New York and Washington, DC.

    Here’s a home that’s billed as “Richardsonian Romanesque” in the Chestnut Hill neighborhood of Philadelphia. The stair hall is extraordinary.

    Here’s a huge MCM by Richard Neutra, also in Philly, that I could move into in a heartbeat if I were one of the one percent:,fsbo_lt/house_type/10275276_zpid/13271_rid/1700-_built/1_pnd/size_sort/40.167068,-74.822732,39.837804,-75.413247_rect/10_zm/0_mmm/

    I find this Victorian farmhouse in the city very appealing. And not a bad price, either:,fsbo_lt/house_type/63497682_zpid/13271_rid/1700-_built/1_pnd/size_sort/40.167068,-74.822732,39.837804,-75.413247_rect/10_zm/2_p/0_mmm/

    This one is also appealing:,fsbo_lt/house_type/10546191_zpid/13271_rid/1700-_built/1_pnd/size_sort/40.167068,-74.822732,39.837804,-75.413247_rect/10_zm/2_p/0_mmm/

  23. peeweebcpeeweebc says: 1080 comments
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    1885 Italianate.

    Painted woodwork but pretty-pretty non the less.

  24. peeweebcpeeweebc says: 1080 comments
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    1885 Italianate.

    Another from Scarsdale that is very nice!

  25. RosewaterRosewater says: 6678 comments
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    1875 Italianate cottage
    Noblesville, IN

    This place has one wowza exterior that’s for sure. I’m not crazy about the more money than sense interior, but it’s still worth a look:

  26. JennyLyn says: 1 comments

    This home just came up for sale in Wapakoneta, Ohio – a town very close to where I live. It is an absolutely gorgeous home, inside and out. Located in a nice neighborhood. Many other historical homes in the neighborhood that are well kept. Home dates to 1885.

  27. Tommy Quinn says: 462 comments

    Yreka is a beautiful place just north of Mt Shasta and very near the Oregon border. A good number of vintage homes there. Here’s a beauty:

  28. Navy nurse says: 23 comments

    Charleston John,
    I agree about Red Doe. Exactly what we’re looking for as we prepare for our move to the Charleston area. No luck so far. All they seem to have are look alike track houses except downtown (for over $1 million) or 70 miles out of town. Depressing, but Navy sending us there so we’ll keep looking.

    • CharlestonJohn says: 1121 comments

      Check out the area around Park Circle in North Charleston. Many of the homes date from the first half of the 20th century, and prices are more reasonable compared to other areas of town. This area is seeing a lot of interest including the Garco renovation project that The Beach Co. had been sitting on for a decade waiting for the right time.

    • Cathy F. says: 2210 comments

      Oooh, very nice! And decorated & furnished beautifully, too. Although the description says New England scenes, I kinda wonder if the mural shows Colgate University?

  29. Cora says: 2064 comments

    Drove through parts of VA today. Never been there. It’s just beautiful, and has some of the most amazing old homes.

    610 S 4th St,
    Wytheville, VA 24382

    Old bank building. Three vaults!

    210 Main St,
    Wytheville, VA 24382

    684 Valley View Dr,
    Elk Creek, VA 24326

    • says: 172 comments

      Love the architecture on the first Wytheville Va. house.
      Wish I knew more about the history.

    • Bethster says: 871 comments

      It’s cool to see Wytheville listings! I lived in Wytheville when I was a kid. We went shopping on Main Street all the time, but I can’t say I remember that bank building. I have always remembered the office supply store with a giant pencil outside, though. The area is indeed beautiful. Very hilly, lots of untouched countryside.

      By the way, Kelly posted that Elk Creek listing not long ago—I remember loving that first photo, with the tree and creek in the foreground.

    • peeweebcpeeweebc says: 1080 comments
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      1885 Italianate.

      The Elk Creek home is my dream, VA has always been on my bucket list, and I’ve been wanting another farm again so bad….. absolutey adore everything about this.

  30. Ed Ferris says: 299 comments

    The photo of the week reminds me how sharp those old black-and-white films could be. Try blowing up a digital photo and you get a mess of pixels.
    This listing looks like a Public Library, but apparently it’s a house:
    Good to see what a giant order without fluting looks like. One of the side porch columns is a little wobbly. Surely they all had capitals at one time. Can’t tell if the inside is really that plain or the good parts were hidden under the clutter.

  31. Cora says: 2064 comments

    I really like this, but I’m skeptical that it was a farmhouse as the description says. The beadboard is fantastic.

    6918 Jeb Stuart Hwy,
    Vesta, VA 24177

    • peeweebcpeeweebc says: 1080 comments
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      1885 Italianate.

      If I had the money, I’d buy it just for the name of the road! Would like to have seen more interiors pictures but what a cool place.

  32. Ed Ferris says: 299 comments
    Sure, why not an oval dormer in the mansard? Seems to be move-in ready. What a collection of roof angles!

  33. Cora says: 2064 comments

    Big, pretty southern home. The listing says it sold 8 months ago for $50k – now it’s $525k; not sure what circumstances would make this place $50k, in any condition?

    9253 Old Us Highway 52,
    Lexington, NC 27295

  34. ChrisICU says: 668 comments

    Here’s a curious and interesting house. An unassuming 1940’s house made ‘mod’ in the 1970’s and set in the Catskills. Exterior is shingle while interior looks like a Scandinavian spa. It’s got some great appeal. I love that it’s on 100 acres and has its own 10 acre pond.

  35. LynnLynn says: 74 comments
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    Here is a beautiful mansion designed by the famous George Franklin Barber. It was featured in Modern Dwellings.,-Tyler,-TX-75701_rb/?fromHomePage=true&shouldFireSellPageImplicitClaimGA=false&fromHomePageTab=buy

  36. Cora says: 2064 comments

    Bargain! Love this one.

    4440 Old Lexington Rd,
    Winston Salem, NC 27107

    Another bargain – what a place this could be with those porches:

    1311 E Stadium Dr,
    Eden, NC 27288

  37. Cora says: 2064 comments

    Another big southern charmer. Wish the tree was still standing in the front.

    12600 Kentuck Rd,
    Sutherlin, VA 24594
    5 beds · 3 baths · 4,000 sqft

  38. says: 172 comments

    Love the architecture.

  39. says: 55 comments

    I hope everyone had a great memorial day weekend! Here are a few homes to share for the week!

    Beautiful home in small town iowa complete with the swing on the front porch

    Well kept home on a really nice lot in town. The neighbors home is also exquisite.

    Phenomenal views of the Mississippi! Street view is a must as this whole area is filled with amazing old houses.

    Might need to win the lottery to purchase this one, but 5 acres in city limits of Kansas City plus a HUGE all brick home!

    Such an amazing property down in Topeka. Looks like it is tucked into a very wealthy neighborhood.

  40. Eric Unhinged says: 1016 comments

    If you like your Italian Renaissance spiced up with a dash of Beaux Arts and Prairie influences, you might like this house in Topeka:

  41. Cora says: 2064 comments

    Love the carved stone exterior details. Some “rewinding” would be needed on the interior, but the price seems fair:

    137 Holbrook Ave,
    Danville, VA 24541
    7 beds · 5 baths · 4,376 sqft

    I usually don’t love houses this old (1730). This one, I mostly love. Especially the entry hall with the stairs. I’m so glad that part wasn’t changed or modernized:

    15125 River Rd,
    Sutherlin, VA 24594

    • MW says: 906 comments

      Wow, that Sutherlin, VA is truly amazing. It is hard to believe a house that old survived that well in tact. Honestly, it looks a bit too good to believe. Besides all the apparently original material still inside, and with all the unpainted wood (or has it been stripped?), the exterior looks close to perfect, like it was new construction vs. close 300yo. The brickwork on the chimneys seem like in amazingly good condition, same for the siding and trim. Almost too perfect.

      I hope it is a case of the house just being well preserved instead of overly restored to the point of losing real historical character. But the description makes it sound like it is more a restored survivor than and completely rebuilt house.

      This one would be amazing if it is truly just carefully preserved and lightly restored and would be something to see. Looks like a museum piece for sure. If this was more up in MD near family, I’d be checking into this one right away.

      Good find Cora. Thanks for sharing.

      • Cora says: 2064 comments

        Lol, that’s so true! When I initially looked at the listing, that first photo of the exterior almost made me think it was a newer home, so I just about didn’t peruse further.

        I would think the chimneys at least have had some extensive renovating; if not replaced altogether. They look too pristine. A good portion of the interior looks original to me, but I have no expertise…especially in homes this old. If it was gutted and recreated, they really did an incredible job!

  42. Ed Ferris says: 299 comments
    A George Barber design (#10 from Modern Dwellings). I can’t guarantee it’s actually for sale since it’s been on Zillow for nearly six years. A realtor there I e-mailed had no information on it.

  43. Kathy Campbell says: 2 comments

    Just posted my sweet little farmhouse For Sale by Owner on Zillow today –,-118.377944,45.959264,-118.487807_rect/12_zm/?view=public

  44. Shannah302 says: 41 comments

    Hello! Can I ask why some comments are closed on some postings? I love reading other peoples opinions and more history or stories on the homes.

  45. LCB29 says: 1 comments

    Beautiful Victorian home on the North Shore of Long Island, New York.

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