1886 Queen Anne – Fort Plain, NY

Details below are from April 2015, sold status has not been verified.
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Added to OHD on 4/9/15   -   Last OHD Update: 4/12/20   -   Comments Closed
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National Register

7 Waddell Ave, Fort Plain, NY 13339

  • $192,500
  • 5 Bed
  • 1.5 Bath
  • 3218 Sq Ft
  • 0.81 Ac.
NEW 50 year Owens Corning roof on THIS National Registry Queen Anne on "Prospect Hill" overlooking the Historical Mohawk Valley of Central NY. The original Victorian woodwork, stained glass, pocket doors, butlers' pantry, veranda, fireplace, & turret await. EASY commute to Albany, Saratoga, & Cooperstown!"
Contact Information
James Lawrence, Krutz-Properties,
(518) 673-2820
OHD Notes
2/27/19: Back on the market, new post: https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2019/02/27/1886-queen-anne-fort-plain-ny-2/

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25 Comments on 1886 Queen Anne – Fort Plain, NY

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  1. Ryan says: 470 comments

    This is a beauty, and it’s next door to the other Victorian (that I could swear was featured on this blog a long time ago) at 9 Waddell Avenue in Fort Plain. I did find it on this other blog:
    http://suburbhunting.blogspot.com/2010/11/9-waddell-ave-fort-plain-ny-13339.html
    …but wasn’t it featured here too, or am I crazy?

    Anyway, I’d love to buy this place and fix up the exterior a bit. If they throw in that black forest tall case clock, I’m in! The wallpapers and floors and woodwork are all great. It’s a shame that Fort Plain has become so undesirable that the real estate prices always stay so low. There was a great federal house that I liked there recently, and it did sell, but the price was amazingly low considering the details and size of the place.

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  2. RossRoss says: 2455 comments
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    1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
    Emporia, KS

    All the original interior features are FABULOUS!

    The vestibule floor is likely porcelain geometric tiles by the American Encaustic Tiling Company.

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  3. Melody says: 521 comments

    This one has some greatness going for it, but it seems smothered. The exterior looks forlorn, maybe it’s just the dreary day, but I want to make it look happy.
    I love the double door vestibules, and I really like the blue tile.

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  4. Bethany says: 3511 comments

    Gorgeous, mostly. The taxidermy is a bit off-putting.

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  5. L Mayo says: 12 comments

    wow — incredible to see this much intact orig detail — agreed hope the tall case clock goes w/ the house they belong together — does it strike any one else that the sq ft seems low this looks to ce way more than 3200 sq ft — great house for some lucky new owner hope it gets a quick sale & bright future –L Mayo

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    • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

      Mr. Mayo, I concur; it surely looks substantially more than 3,200 sq. feet of living space inside-perhaps that figure is for one floor? This fine home has many of the “drop dead” wonderful interior details lovers of Victoriana seek. Of course, there’s the location and if one looks back at the New York State Old House Dreams Victorian listings they tend to be on the opulent side. In the Victorian Age, New York City was the center of the design and decorative arts universe so high quality decorative accessories for the house were readily available. That said, New York state has high property taxes but they do vary considerably by community. I love the interior millwork, the stained glass, the inlaid patterned parquet floors as well as the Minton-Hollins imported English tiles at the entry and the fact that little has changed from the time the house was built. A 1905 Internet Archive tile catalog from the famous firm is available for free viewing and download: https://archive.org/details/MintonTilesMintonHollinsCo.PatentTileWorksStokeUpon-trent Great opportunity here for a period purist who wants to indulge their tastes for delightful Victorian excess. With some period colors, the exterior would be far more appealing. Seems fairly priced at just under $250k. In some locales, this house would be marketed for over half a million. Potential buyers should verify the tax situation though, but otherwise, I love this one.

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      • L Mayo says: 12 comments

        Hi John —
        no I think 3200 to a single floor would be too high a number — the Lebold was 50 x 50 or 2500 to the floor & our current place is 4800 across 3 floors (OR 1600 per) — after viewing it I looked at our surrounding neighbors and I’m guessing more like 54 to 6400 across 3 floors —

        BTW — did you notice the (possibly orig) early aesthetic paper in the Dinning rm –and the brass curtain poles and rings in same — also great running motif in the stained glass bay — this house is just too great — Regards L Mayo

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        • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

          Thanks for the floor size estimates. Hmmm…as for the brass poles/rings hanging the dining room curtains-can’t say if they appear original or not. They are hanging at the appropriate height so the stained glass transoms can be seen. As for the dining room wallpaper-the colors seem too bright and vivid for the original period; by 1886 the Aesthetic Movement fad was largely over especially along the Eastern Seaboard. As we know, the peak of the fad there was from about 1878 to around 1882-3. Boston seems to have been a cultural hub of aesthetes more so than any other city but sporadic examples of Aesthetic Movement interiors are found from New York to California. The Cohen-Bray House in Oakland has a strong Aesthetic interior. Of course, the term Aesthetic Movement and “Eastlake” (after the English artist and decorative arts critic by that name) are often used interchangeably. However, the American versions of Eastlake accessories and hardware were still being used in places like Nebraska, Kansas, Texas, and Oklahoma into the 1890’s. By that time in the East everyone was into Colonial Revival and Beaux Arts with the very wealthy into Eclectic European Chateauesque and Elizabethan Revival/Tudoresque. Some of the reproduction papers in this house are popular Bradbury patterns; others are “busy” florals and paisleys. To my eyes the entry with the square Eastlake/Aesthetic hall lamp and the sunburst motif stained glass entry transom as well as the beautiful coffered wood ceiling retain the strongest Aesthetic flavor. A fairly pure Aesthetic interior house is this one (recently for sale at auction) in Oswego, NY: https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2013/06/12/1891-queen-anne-oswego-ny/ I always love Victorian interiors with quirky Aesthetic/Eastlake details. All said, I agree this is a fantastic house.

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      • RossRoss says: 2455 comments
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        1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
        Emporia, KS

        Hi John,

        While the vestibule tiles might be imported, and by Minton-Hollis, they look just like the tiles in my 1894 house in Kansas, and which are by the American Encaustic Tiling Company (many tiles are marked as such on the back, and I have the original receipt).

        The plain tiles are called porcelain geometric tiles, and the decorative tiles are called encaustic tiles.

        However, few people know this, and such floors are generally referred to as encaustic tile floors. My bathroom floors are porcelain geometric tiles, while my three vestibules (like the vestibule in the house in this thread) are both porcelain geometric tiles and encaustic tiles.

        Another OHD house has a confirmed vestibule floor by the American Encaustic Tiling Company:

        https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2014/09/05/1886-queen-anne-emporia-ks/

        While trying to figure out how to restore my floors I was ASTOUNDED to discover a company in the US which is, once again, making such floors. Zounds! They have given me a quote to recreate all my missing tiles (I have five such floors):

        http://restoringRoss.com/my-big-learning-curve-about-historic-tile-part-1/

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        • John Shiflet says: 5450 comments

          I believe by the 1890’s Encaustic tiles with similar colors and form were probably being produced on both sides of the Atlantic. Minton predates most American tile firms but “A.E.T.” (as their tiles are often stamped on the back) produced a vast array of tiles as well. In the 1890’s there were at least a dozen companies (most based in the Ohio River valley) making art tiles in the U.S.. Glad to learn you have a resource for your missing tiles. Glad as well that some of your tiles do not need replacement such as these pastel blue figural tiles in what used to be a (Granddaughter’s?) bedroom hearth in your H. Cross house: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11236515@N05/15645458725/ In conclusion, the vestibule tiles appear to be Minton-Hollins products but one would need to look on the backs to ascertain for sure who made them. I’m sure cheaper domestic lookalike knock-offs of English imports were popular then and arguably of equivalent quality.

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  6. Tommy Q says: 462 comments

    Wonder if you get the stuffed wolf in the deal?

    Tornadoes have always freaked me out, but that white stuff on the ground is starting to make me uncomfortable as well. Anyhow, all the good homes come with that stuff it seems. Big wind or big snow, take your choice. I sure like this one thought so bring out the Flexible Flyer, I’m on my way! -L-

    • kenneth Lee Benjamin says: 57 comments

      Your so right Tommy Q,every house I see that I find and love seem to be in the big snow area or tornado areas,right now Western NC seems to be the safest place e to live weather wise but the houses are too much $$$ and little Victorians.I guess we have to see if these homes are worth the risk,maybe with a good basement??

  7. Scott CunninghamScott Cunningham says: 395 comments
    1856 Tudor (fmr Victorian)
    Leavenworth , KS

    What a gem!!!! The entry foyer is superb!! Love the wood cabinetry in the pantry, and the ceiling details are great. A bit masculine in tone, but thats a welcome change to many victorians that suffer from estrogen overdose….

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6676 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      For sure. The absence of tacky wallpaper is always a blessing. I think the fox and the wolf are RAD! Also love the blue glass vignette in the service pantry. From the top hats doffed upon the DR chairs, to the taxidermy, to the wild, over the top, Black Forrest, long case clock; you can tell these are fun folks, and I hope they find another great house like this which so nicely envelopes their personalities..

  8. Ernie says: 117 comments

    The cranberry and Vaseline glass jeweled gasolier in the entry hall if not original to the house certainly is period appropriate and mirrors the quality of the interior stained glass entry doors. Being a long time clock collector and antique clock museum curator the black forest hall clock certainly is an unusually fine specimen. The house itself is certainly affordable and I would be ready to relocate in a heartbeat but the $7K(+) a year in property taxes kills it for me…

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  9. Ernie says: 117 comments

    Check out the 16 Clinton Ave Fort Plain Zillow listing. Probably built by the same architect/builder as this house. The exterior also looks a bit tired but inside, one finds the same quality of stained glass entry doors and natural wood interiors. Also Exceptional original period combination gas/electric lighting fixtures. I have fallen in love with the jeweled owl stained glass window above the stair landing.

    • RosewaterRosewater says: 6676 comments
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      1875 Italianate cottage
      Noblesville, IN

      Oooooh, wow, yeah. Nice! That owl is rad as ____! Both houses have exquisite Aesthetic period details. The Moorish gasolier in this one is DIVINE; but the winner is house 2 with that AMAZING owl. Uber cool. You’re too right about the designer being the same for both houses I’ll wager as well. Both houses have outstanding, top-shelf finishes; many of which we only have a faint glimpse of in these – meh – pix. Try this link to house 2 on Realtor. If you click once for gallery view, chose a specific image, then click at the top “view original size”, there is a slightly larger image available. Also; Realtor gallery includes a great pic of an early, original bath at the end; http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/16-Clinton-Ave_Fort-Plain_NY_13339_M31964-39244?source=web# Thanks for sharing Ernie!

  10. Elizabeth says: 20 comments

    Most rural dwelling folks travel long distances to go to work so I can easily see the owner of this house working in either Albany or Utica. That’s the only way small towns stay alive and I’m sure that goes for this one, if you aren’t a farmer. This house definitely has some features worth driving long distances for.

  11. JimHJimH says: 5157 comments
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    This was the home of Gilbert S. Smith (1841-1914), the leading manufacturer in town – his initials in stained glass are on the inner front door. Smith was married to the daughter of US Congressman John Edwards, and he ran his father’s woolen mill as a young man. In 1871 he took over a factory making wagon parts; the Fort Plain Spring & Axle Works became the largest industrial company in town by the 1880’s, filling 6 large buildings along the Erie Canal. Smith moved the company to Chicago after labor problems caused the factory to shut down in the 1890’s. He owned the house until his death but only lived here for a few years.

  12. Tommy Q says: 462 comments

    By the way, a neighbor house isn’t too shabby either:

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/16-Clinton-Ave_Fort-Plain_NY_13339_M31964-39244

  13. Tommy Q says: 462 comments

    Evidently Fort Plain has any number of cool houses. Check this one out:

    http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9-Waddell-Ave-Fort-Plain-NY-13339/31057933_zpid/

  14. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11931 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Back on the market: https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2019/02/27/1886-queen-anne-fort-plain-ny-2/

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