c. 1890 Queen Anne – Hattiesburg, MS (George F. Barber)

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102 Short Bay St, Hattiesburg, MS 39401

  • $188,700
  • 4 Bed
  • 2 Bath
  • 3601 Sq Ft
This is a Fannie Mae HomePath property. Beautiful historic home at corner of Short Bay & River Ave. No disclosure. No warranties. Purchaser to verify all information. Forrest County.

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27 Comments on c. 1890 Queen Anne – Hattiesburg, MS (George F. Barber)

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  1. John C says: 434 comments

    There is that oft-expressed sentiment about “if these old walls could speak …. “. The tragedy of our modern times is that nowadays they would speak about people — good, far-sighted, hard-working people who believed what the world told them — losing homes to foreclosure. If there is one downside to this site, it is that one is reminded of tragedies.

    That said, whoever had this house appears to have “done it proud”. However, this was on market for two months, off for almost two months, and is now back on. It probably needs to go through three or four rounds of price-reduction at least, before it finds a new owner. I hope not, but that appears to be the case.

  2. Tracy says: 92 comments

    I could handle this… Too bad the photos couldn’t tell us more. Not sure if I would like having streets on three sides of my property, but who knows.

  3. John C says: 434 comments

    This was (beginning in 2005) a Bed and Breakfast
    Dunn House Bed & Breakfast, 102 Short Bay St. , in Hattiesburg Historic Neighborhood District – listed on the National Register of Historic Places (one block from Hattiesburg Depot). Four guest rooms and full breakfasts offered at this 19th century Queen Anne Victorian house.
    Call ***** e-mail ****for information and reservations.

    More importantly here, at that time the legend read “Circa 1890” and not 1906
    Source: http://www.longleaftrace.org/BnB/BnB.html

  4. John C says: 434 comments

    Hattiesburg is attempting to use historic preservation as a draw for tourism. See http://www.downtownhattiesburg.com/HHDA_Bro_lowres.pdf That pamphlet lists Dunn house as being on the National Register.

  5. Ryan says: 461 comments

    I call dibbs on that bar in the attic!

  6. John C says: 434 comments

    The National Register nomination form for the neighborhood, which lists this house as follows:

    102 Short Bay St. Queen Anne. Ca. 1890. 2%-story frame residence with multigabled
    roof, polygonal corner tur-ret , veranda supported by coupled Ionic columns on pedestals.

    Source: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=102%20short%20bay%20st%2C%20hattiesburg%2C%20ms%20%20national%20register&source=web&cd=8&sqi=2&ved=0CFEQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hattiesburghistoricneighborhood.com%2Fattachments%2FFile%2FPreservation_Information%2FHburg_Hist_Neigh_nomination.pdf&ei=rdlsT7_TOcTS2QX2vuyDCg&usg=AFQjCNHQa6p2O91V6pBjjvxMBhZSm_4Qlw

    http://www.hattiesburghistoricneighborhood.com/…/Hburg_Hist_Neigh_ …You +1’d this publicly. Undo
    File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat – Quick View
    See instructions in How to Complete National Register Forms. /. Type all … the following exceptions: along the southern section of Bay Street several Colonial. Revival and Queen Anne …. Quadrangle name Hattiesburg. Miss. UMT References. |8 i2. Zone Easting. , i. |3i4l6l7|A|l|0| …. 102 Short Bay St. Queen Anne. Ca. 1890.

  7. Chris DiMattei says: 268 comments

    This is yet another fantastic George F. Barber design. It is one of several located in Hattiesburg. I hope someone worthy of her, makes the purchase and follows through on the restoration.

    • John C says: 434 comments

      Chris, can you identify the design? Also, what is your best guess as to the year of construction

      • Chris DiMattei says: 268 comments

        John, based on the number of pattern books I have seen, which is many of them, but not all of them, I believe this design was not published in this exact form. It shares many traits with designs Barber published in his third edition of Modern Dwellings (1901). I would estimate the year of construction as between 1898 and 1903.

        • John C says: 434 comments

          Thanks! I suspect the circa 1890 date the house carried as a B & B was someone’s guess, then, and I suspect that , upon digging, the 1906 date would also appear to be a guess. By, what works of art these listings sometimes can be!

          • Chris DiMattei says: 268 comments

            I believe the 1890 date came from the county assessor’s office, but I agree that it was most likely a guess. In many cases these organizations lumped all years within a decade, down to the initial year, meaning that any house constructed between 1890 and 1899 would be recorded as 1890. I couldn’t even begin to speculate as to why they would do this, but, generally speaking, I have seen it everywhere.

    • John Shiflet says: 5357 comments

      Chris, you beat me to it! Geo. Barber houses were very popular in the South as he worked out of Knoxville, TN after he relocated from De Kalb, Illinois. Interesting house but it appears to be missing some of its ornate original interior which has happened with many old Victorians over the years. Seems a bit steeply priced for a Fannie Mae Homepath property. (but I don’t blame them for trying to recover their losses)

  8. John C says: 434 comments

    This house (with 25 pictures) is for sale on the same block, for $144,000

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/112-Short-Bay-St_Hattiesburg_MS_39401_M87381-08600?source=web

    Beds:4 Bed
    Baths:3 Bath
    House Size:4,019 Sq Ft

  9. John C says: 434 comments

    another house in the same block:, also 25 pics:

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/106-Short-Bay-St_Hattiesburg_MS_39401_M89276-05735?source=web

    Beds:4 Bed
    Baths:2 Bath
    House Size:4,251 Sq Ft

    • Debbie says: 8 comments

      This house is AWESOME!!! Thanks for pointing it out.

    • Chris DiMattei says: 268 comments

      This house is one of the other George Barber designed homes in Hattiesburg. I have 6 Barber designed homes recorded in my database for Hattiesburg.

      • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 937 comments
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        1901 Folk Victorian
        Chestatee, GA

        Thanks Chris, I thought so! I had intended on posting 106 Short Bay Monday and inquire if it was or not. Thanks for the confirmation. 🙂

        • John C says: 434 comments

          Kelly, I apologize if I messed up the way you wanted to approach these houses. Please post on Monday as you intended. I had thought that the situation of these three houses being so near each other, all for sale, posed some interesting price and preservation problems. Of course, you know how to “pick ’em” and I should have realized you anticipated what my reaction would be.

          • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 937 comments
            Admin

            1901 Folk Victorian
            Chestatee, GA

            No, you didn’t mess anything up. 🙂

            • John C says: 434 comments

              Whew! Thanks, Kelly. This web-site, and your great efforts, form a remarkable activity I’d never want to impede in any way. I do not know how you do what you do, and I do not know how you ever conceived the idea and purpose to do it. You are unique.

  10. John C says: 434 comments

    To underline the problem, the house at 112 Short Bay is considerably cheaper per square foot, and in total price, even though this house is one coming through foreclosure. The house at 106 Short Bay is more expensive in total, but it is a bigger house with the front column affair more prized nowadays in southern towns.

    • Kenny says: 82 comments

      The 106 Short Bay St home is fantastic. The wall murals, columns, woodwork, etc. It is surprisingly affordable given its size and architecture. It may be deserving of being featured here. Thanks John for linking this one.

      • John C says: 434 comments

        You are welcome, Kenny. This came about due to circumstances. I have been looking through the internet — peering, really — at Mississippi towns along Amtrak. I don’t want to mislead about the town by referring only to this block. Hattiesburg has comfortable old houses for $70,000 and less — in one or two instances considerably less.

        If anyone reading this is interested in historic preservation in Mississippi, I highly recommend one of the most literate, stimulating and socially useful blogs I know — although not geared to homebuying. http://misspreservation.com/

        “Preservation in Mississippi”, subtitled “It ain’t all moonlight and magnolias”, is
        run by a number of architects and preservationists, with first honors to ELMALVANEY, a pen name for a Mississippi architect, for purposes of “build[ing] a stronger community of local and state preservationists…. Join the discussion, talk back, agree, disagree, etc. by adding your comments (insightful, silly, but always respectful) and sharing important stories from your neck of the woods.”

        Getting back to 106 Short Bay, it may aesthetically be deserving of feature. That is a worthy basis and a lot of houses Kelly selects clearly come in on that basis. However, sometimes I think Kelly selects houses as object-lessons: what is this worth, what can be done, etc. etc. In those instances, if my suspicion is right, we are learning homebuying according to the business school casebook method. At least that is how I take some of the homes Kelly presents, but I assure you I am glad for each and every one she presents.

    • Karen says: 73 comments

      John C, can you tell if 112 Short Bay has sold?

  11. John C says: 434 comments

    For those of us of a certain age (or who have hopes of achieving that status), one point of interest is that Hattiesburg is one of Mississippi’s Certified Retirement cities. This will explain the program, but each such City has its own description of its activities — just click on the particular city on the list in which you are interested. http://www.visitmississippi.org/certified-retirement-cities.aspx

  12. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11871 comments
    Admin

    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Back on the market, link

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