c. 1885 Second Empire – Schenevus, NY

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5 Division St, Schenevus, NY 12155

  • $30,000
  • 4 Bed
  • 1.5 Bath
  • 2964 Sq Ft
  • 0.74 Ac.
MOTIVATED seller. This home sits on a beautiful corner lot in the hamlet of Schenevus. There is also a 3 bedroom guest house on the property Most contents of house are included in the sale. Being sold as is
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Jennifer Mickle, Coldwell Banker Bordinger Realty,
(607) 432-9173


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91 Comments on c. 1885 Second Empire – Schenevus, NY

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  1. Sue S. says: 306 comments

    I hardly know what to say, except … SLEIGHS. The house appears to include horse-drawn SLEIGHS. Is that a first for OHD? (One appears to be more properly called a cutter, but still….)

  2. Ross says: 2524 comments

    I AM FREAKIN’ OUT!

    This fabulous house for $30K?

    AND a two-story carriage house? WITH a cupola?

    I AM FREAKIN’ OUT, man!!!!!!!!

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  3. MonicaG says: 170 comments

    This would be a lot of work but has extraordinary potential, I think…the staircase alone. Looks like somebody was trying and it became too costly. Hope it is restored. And yes…sleighs!!!!

  4. Ernie says: 130 comments

    It looks like a live in at the same time restoration effort that was well underway but then came to a screeching halt. I see some horse drawn buggy wheels to go along with the sleighs. Great price, excellent potential (especially the carriage house) But even at this bargain basement price sticker those NY property taxes are a killer…..

    • Kristl DeBord says: 31 comments

      I live in IL where property taxes are the 2nd highest in the nation, second to NJ. Believe me, it about kills us. I’d love to move to MO, or IA, or anywhere else. I keep seeing fabulous homes on here too!! Our home was built in 1940. We have a small parcel of land, one unattached garage. Our taxes are almost $4000. Ouch.

  5. JoeyKW says: 5 comments

    Is that black mold I see in the bedroom? Look like new drywall too. If there’s already mold on that there has to be a serious problem. Isn’t that something that has to be disclosed?

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11723 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      I’m not sure if it’s mold or something else. If it were mold it would be from the exterior or else why isn’t it on the baseboard unless it’s behind the wall? Or is it something else? Hard to tell.

      • JoeyKW says: 5 comments

        It is curious that it’s not on the baseboard. I would think drywall is more susceptible to mold anyway since it’s more porous. Definitely hard to tell. This place is just too gorgeous though. I have to always keep my eye open for problems or I’ll end up getting the grandiose plan of buying it only to realize I can’t afford the restore.

    • Ross says: 2524 comments

      Joey,

      The house AND the fabulous 2-story carriage house are but $30K.

      $30K!

      At this price, issues are to be expected.

      But what does one choose to see? A glass half full? Or half empty?

      While you see mold (which I do not see), I see THAT STAIRCASE! And soooooo much more! Oh baby, soooooo much to love!

      • JoeyKW says: 5 comments

        You misunderstand! I have been an OHD addict for a while now, always reading the comments (yours mostly!) for insight on what to look for besides the OBVIOUS beauty. I see only the beauty in these houses unless I TRY looking for the flaws. See, I LOVE the grand old ladies in need of TLC. But when I do buy, I don’t want to deceive myself into thinking a project will be easier than it actually is, underestimating costs and the time investment, and risking the house not getting the proper care she deserves from someone who can afford her. My seeking out flaws is only to ensure that someone (especially myself) doesn’t get in over their head and let house suffer for it, deteriorating more each year it doesn’t get a proper restore.

    • GloriaH says: 86 comments

      The ceiling of that bedroom has the plaster coming off and it looks like moisture to me. On the floor especially. I’ve never lived in an old house yet that didn’t have mold somewhere, but plaster is pretty good at fighting it. As far as disclosures, each state has their own rules. I bet there is no disclosure with this property. What you see is what you get. I’d love to have it.

  6. MikeE says: 321 comments

    I am speechless.

  7. Bethany says: 3322 comments

    Dream listing; my heart’s desire. My heaven will be filled with rescue properties like this filled with their contents and unremuddled. “sigh”

  8. SueSue says: 1160 comments
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    1802 Cape
    ME

    I am a complete sucker for Italianate homes and this house is no exception. I even love the delicate patterned wall paper they chose for the hallway. Yet, I always feel sad when I see a house that has been abandoned in the middle of restoration. All that effort and dreams of restoration gone. And why is it being sold with all the contents? Foreclosure perhaps?

  9. Jenna says: 1 comments

    Including furnishing?

  10. Alicia says: 1 comments

    I wish I had the money to make this house into the masterpiece it once was!

  11. SeanSean says: 161 comments
    1928 Spanish Revival
    Long Beach, CA

    I agree with everyone else – she’s a beauty! I love Italianate, especially the way this one was designed. The mansard roof and eaves are exactly what you’d expect in a proper Italianate. The interior details are great too, not too heavy and applied with taste. The kitchen is great too, and I also like the stairwell wallpaper.

    But it does look like the price it’s being offered will be the lowest amount spent for anything in the restoration. ๐Ÿ™

  12. Holly Q says: 80 comments

    Ohhhhhh be still my heart. Wouldn’t change much. Fix electric, plumbing etc but I love that ‘distressed’ look.

  13. Ann says: 100 comments

    Oh I’m swooning over this one, and those stairs!

  14. Porch Freak says: 53 comments

    I wish I had a reason to move to New York and I wish my dad were twenty years younger. The man is a master of restoration, plumbing and electrical, and he would be all over this magnificent house. I can see us sitting on that glorious front porch at the end of the day talking about what a pain in the derriรจre this house is and loving every minute of it. A girl can dream.

  15. WhenIWinTheLottery says: 71 comments

    Let’s all pitch in and buy it!

  16. lisa says: 1 comments

    omg!! sell off all the antiques in that place and that alone will pay for the house!!! between the sleighs, the beds, and all the other old stuff in there……..this could be a fantastic house. it would take alot of work and alot of money but ooohhh sssoooo worth it!!!

  17. Aussie Girl says: 1 comments

    What is the yearly tax and “rates” Australian asking lol

    • Ed Ferris says: 311 comments

      The Zillow listing says $3300 (US) per year, approximately.

      • MiaNJ says: 10 comments

        $3300? That’s not bad at all, considering the size of the house, land, and outbuildings. Once restored, the taxes may be reassessed and then you’ll see some big numbers. But as is, that’s not a bad annual tax, especially for NY State.

        Schenevus is right in the area of Schoharie Valley, and I’m a bit familiar with that area. I used to visit family in Breakabeen, only about 20 miles or so east of Schenevus. I certainly wouldn’t mind living there. The house does need a LOT of TLC, probably far more than I’d be able to afford. I smiled when I saw those sleighs inside the house, too. I imagine the owners just wanted to get them in out of the weather. I’d love to see some ‘after’ photos once someone fixes this place up. $30K, such a steal for a HOUSE, 3/4 of an acre, and another whole guesthouse… if you’ve got the money to invest in rehab.

        And the listing says 1.5 baths, and I saw two bathrooms with tubs. Always a plus!

        • Barbara says: 2 comments

          You’re right, $3,300 a year is nothing! I’m on Long Island too…We are at about $10,000 a year ourselves…Taxes are a nightmare here.

  18. Holly R Sterrett says: 3 comments

    LOVE this house..it has so much potential. The front doors and front staircase are amazing. Yes there is a lot of work to be done, but worth it in the end.

  19. Rach P says: 13 comments

    Sleighs!! I’m going to have to save that photo! Why oh why aren’t there gems like this where I come from…….sigh……

  20. Angel says: 14 comments

    My eyes couldn’t see anything else after that staircase and those two sleighs!! ??

  21. Cora says: 2030 comments

    I’m just…oh, my. I’m a sucker for a curvy staircase but this…I can’t stop looking.

    I would clean it, paint it, sell the stuff (not the cool stuff, and there’s a lot), make the yard pretty, plant flowers, open all the windows and let the breeze blow through all that loveliness whilst I sit on the perfect porch, drink iced tea, and revel in my good fortune…

  22. Cora says: 2030 comments

    Im seriously hooked. I may need an intervention…I’ve been sitting here trying to zoom in on the stuff sitting on the kitchen counter and shelves. I see little teapots and antique bakeware.

    You get the stuff too?!

    I just want to hop in the car now, play hooky from work tomorrow, drive all night and go peek in the windows.

  23. Fenria says: 1 comments

    It’s a fixer, but not terribly so. There’s still life in the old gal yet. So much potential, and think, you can actually sing Jingle Bells while riding in a one horse open sleigh! That alone is worth the money!

  24. CharlestonJohn says: 1045 comments

    Love that curved floating staircase. I wonder if the attic space under that Mansard roof is finished or tall enough to finish. There are at least a couple third floor dormers, but it may just be attic. You could call this Second Empire.

  25. says: 12 comments

    OMG…that curvaceous stairway… **SIGH**

  26. Big Rog says: 182 comments

    The stair way and the double doors really make this home lovely. Lots of work, but could one get a rehab loan with the loan to buy? Would have a great resale price after renovations.

  27. Daughter of GeorgeDaughter of George says: 988 comments
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    1905 Neoclassic & 1937 Deco

    I’m moving into that guest house!

  28. JosephFortHill says: 348 comments

    I was touring around this area recently. This actually seems to be in good shape compared to the Sharon Springs house (well, remains of a house) everyone was gaga over. But if you aren’t familiar area, you can view some of the town via google streetview. It’s not just the house condition keeping the price low.

    If restored, this would definitely be the nicest house in town. But, then again, as is, it’s still the nicest home in town.

  29. daniel says: 3 comments

    quite often i see posts here that i would like to share ….but there is not an “email” share option ? not all my friends are on FB or tweeter etc am i missing something or can someone suggest a way?

  30. Diane says: 538 comments

    So many fixers are too high priced to make it feasible for many of us old house lovers to buy AND fix. But this house is perfect in so many ways. Cost, taxes, beautiful components, not remuddled and lots of old stuff laying about. Sad for the owner who obviously had high hopes but must now let it all go. This is the gem of the day.

  31. Graham says: 158 comments

    Just be careful the ad says MOST of the contents included. I would make sure what is and isn’t included. I will join the chorus in saying I really like this house. Looks like some water problems at one point.

  32. Tommy Q says: 466 comments

    How high are the ceilings downstairs? I’ve never seen such tall rooms unless the camera is playing tricks on my old eyes.

  33. Amanda says: 52 comments

    oh my! a sleigh! I am dreaming this will get me through the day now as I sit at my desk…….. must concentrate and not wonder how can I persuade my husband its a good purchase !!!

  34. Linda Janney says: 13 comments

    Great house with Guest house. I wish I had the time & money to do a house on the east coast. Nice 4 poster bed surrounded by new Sheetrock.

  35. Qabbott says: 31 comments

    And there is a vintage Carousel in town, according to Yahoo!

  36. Patrick Collier says: 7 comments

    I called and a sale is now pending. Not to me. ?

  37. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11723 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    It’s pending sale! Hope the new owner comes by and says hello if the sale goes through. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Laurie says: 13 comments

      Hello! Yes, we are very excited! I cannot wait to get started on renovations, though we will be keeping the charm of the house as much to original as possible.

  38. Franka says: 20 comments

    Awesome, awesome home. Worth the work and the investment. Love that they kept the bathroom fixtures and did not update. Love the sleigh. This will be quite the labor of love. Hope we are kept posted as to renovations.

  39. Dwight says: 35 comments

    I can see that small sleigh sitting on the front porch at Christmas time filled with presents. I’ve always wanted a sleigh to decorate at Christmas. The house just happens to be a bonus.

  40. John Shiflet says: 5392 comments

    As Ross noted, at this price point, there’s little not to like. That original carriage house is a gem! Loads of nice antiques in the rooms suggesting this might be good hunting territory for antiques buffs. I think the house started life as a Second Empire with an added turn of the last century Classical Revival porch and inside perhaps added columns and a brick mantel from the early 1900’s. I wish the new owners better luck than previous restorers. I expect since we are now at the peak of the Spring real estate market for quite a few houses on these pages to have “pending” or “sold” on them. But at this very low price, I think it would sell in the dead of winter.

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11723 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Now I feel really stupid as I see it is a Second Empire yet I called it Italianate. Don’t know what the heck is wrong with me.

      • HighlyefficientFrankFurness says: 4 comments

        Don’t feel bad Kelly, Second Empire interior treatments (not plans) are usually identical to their Italianate brethren and many Italianate homes had Mansard roofs added when the French style became popular, which can confuse its presumed chronology. I have owned and restored such a home. Some architectural historians assert that due to construction and carpentry practices of the day, that Second Empire homes are really just Italianate structures with mansard roofs and can include the occasional tower be it central or offset. It all depends on which sub-type of Italianate it was predicated upon. As we can see, the Italianate Villa was adapted in this way in many high style Second Empire structures with asymmetrical plans. Further muddying of the waters is the fact that during this very eclectic time period, interior architecture and design were a mix of period treatments with these types of homes anyway…if taken room by room we can see differing stylistic emphasis at times, such as Renaissance revival, Rococo revival or simply vernacular romantic revival interpretations which were characteristically diverse. In other words Kelly, you may be right!

  41. JimHJimH says: 4867 comments
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    This was John Graney’s house. A forgotten man but a good one – an Irish orphan boy who started with nothing, worked hard as a traveling salesman and was beloved by all in this little place and for miles around. “John Graney is coming to town next week” local newspapers reported, as though he was some kind of local Santa Claus riding around in his carriage. He was involved in every town activity, and organized fairs for the children, he and his wife Amelia not having any of their own. John invested well and was rewarded for his work when he was elected President of the Schenevus National Bank in 1899, and he made a great success of it. John O. Graney 1855-1918.

    For the sake of this great old home, I hope the dream works out better for the new owners than the last. Buying a property for next to nothing and then trying to restore it part-time from your permanent home 200 miles away isn’t the best way to go about it. The cheap ones usually suffer the most because the owners have little to lose if the project goes south.
    Another example (of many):
    https://www.oldhousedreams.com/2014/12/14/gothic-revival-oxford-ny/

  42. Victorian Annie says: 1 comments

    Interesting blend of architectural details. The roof does look Mansard or (French) Second Empire, some of the heavy exterior woodwork looks Italianate, but the columns on the porch looks later-Colonial Revival, and the INTERIOR columns just off the staircase very definitely look LATE Victorian-Colonial Revival. Let’s just go ahead and call it a pastiche. Whatever you call it, it is very beautiful.

  43. Laurie says: 13 comments

    It’s beautiful and we just bought it!! It has been vacant for 30 years. The seller purchased it for his wife who suddenly came down with Alzheimers and has since passed. They had someone living there to restore it but the seller decided to just sell it for the price of what he put into it. It was a steal. It has a leak in the roof that causes some damage to the upstairs bedroom and some minor issues throughout the house. Really, its not a lot of work for someone who knows what they are doing. We lucked out!! Maybe I will post some pics on here after we fix it up =)

  44. Laurie says: 13 comments

    no, we gave him 30,000

  45. Scott CunninghamScott Cunningham says: 390 comments
    1856 Tudor (fmr Victorian)
    Leavenworth , KS

    What you are buying here is a template. There isn’t a lot that you would want to hang onto. Its probably a treaty project for someone willing to do a complete gutting and renovation. Hopefully the bones are sound, because most of the rest is shot. Not necessarily a bad thing. Strip it to the studs, upgrade the HVAC, Electric and plumbing while its exposed, then sheetrock it back together, sand the floors, paint it, and you have a great place.

    • Ross says: 2524 comments

      A template?

      Gutting to the studs?

      There isnโ€™t a lot that you would want to hang onto?

      Scott, are we looking at the same house?

      People should never gut an old house. Plaster on lath is wonderful! It offers superior acoustics than sheetrock, is a better insulator, and is a feature which makes a great old house, well, great.

      My old house has been totally rewired, re-plumbed, AC added, and all while maintaining the extant plaster.

    • Ed Ferris says: 311 comments

      I agree with Ross that plaster makes a better wall, but what do you do when somebody has sheetrocked half the house already? Amateur sheetrock work, with half-inch gypsum panels, is not worth keeping, in my opinion — mudding, sanding, and painting it is more work than tearing it down and plastering. If you put stucco pigments in the skim coat you don’t even have to paint. “Gutting” plaster walls that have stood for 150 years is idiotic. Wiring and plumbing should be run in chases, not inside the walls. Baseboard or floor receptacles are characteristic of that old a house and are quite practical. Insulating the attic floor, so your house doesn’t act like a chimney in cold weather, is far more important than insulating the walls. Consider replacing the clapboards on the carriage house instead of stripping and sanding them.
      I’m partial to beadboard ceilings. Plaster on ceilings only lasts 100 years or so; you can never tell when sheetrock is going to fall on your head.
      So much for my opinions. I’ve never put them all into effect, yet.

    • Laurie says: 13 comments

      All the electrical has been replaced, its brand new, the furnace is new, the hot water heater and plumbing all new as well. The bones are strong! Its a fabulous house! We lucked out!!

  46. KarenZKarenZ says: 1188 comments
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    I’m really happy that there is a buyer to continue the story of this house! I hope that Laurie stops by frequently (when she needs a break from restoration) and with pictures of BOTH houses!

  47. Michael Mackin says: 2043 comments

    Laurie, I wish you well on your new project as most, if not all the people on this site do as well. You have bought a stunning house. The staircase alone would cost as much as you paid for the property. I hope you post pictures of the progress on your beautiful home.

  48. Sandra says: 324 comments

    How many of us stopped breathing as we were looking through the photos? hahaha! Every week I die (and am miraculously revived) by some knockout home on this site.

  49. Laurie, you lucky duck! Please do keep us updated on your finds and progress, or maybe you could start a blog like Ross? Congratulations!

  50. sharon Masters says: 12 comments

    Congrats Laurie, that stairwell alone is a lifetime of joy. Pics please- we want to enjoy watching the project day by day (do you have a blog?)

  51. Almost a year later… I’m dying for an update on this beaut!

    • Laurie S says: 13 comments

      Work is being done slowly as we have a child battling cancer. We practically gutted the house and are putting up sheetrock. We are fixing the foundation and the roof before the snow hits.

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