c. 1890 Queen Anne – Mount Carmel, PA

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Added to OHD on 6/23/15   -   Last OHD Update: 11/3/19   -   41 Comments

351 West Ave, Mount Carmel, PA 17851

  • $49,900
  • 7 Bed
  • 1.5 Bath
  • 3082 Sq Ft
Scott family Estate Circa 1890. Grand Victorian Architecture. This property offers vintage pocket doors,a beautiful three story natural wood stair case, stained glass windows,two marble fireplaces. Old world charm surrounded by Churches,and Church Bells.Lovely and desirable West Mount Carmel Avenue 47 x 175 ft.corner location. Two car detached garage. Elegant, unique and one of a kind home.Sold as/is.in need of much updating.
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Pete Scherer, Keller Williams,
717-657-4700


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41 Comments on c. 1890 Queen Anne – Mount Carmel, PA

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  1. Sean Platter says: 161 comments

    This house really speaks to me. There’s so much still intact! All the exterior wood trim, the wood corner protectors in the interiors (how often do you see them?), original light fixtures… you name it. And though it doesn’t fit – the 1940s-50s wallpaper in the stairwell and main hall is historic itself. But everything is teetering on the edge of ruin. So much water damage, and who knows what other damage from neglect is just below the surface. And the price reflects the neglect. It all makes this house bittersweet.

  2. Melody says: 569 comments

    Oh I want to see this old girl all freshened up and made pretty once again. She has a great sized lot, and that back facade is pretty impressive.
    7 bedrooms with 1.5 baths is a little unbalanced, particularly since that half bath looks like it was just thrown in a back room.

  3. RossRoss says: 2524 comments
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    1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
    Emporia, KS

    I do love a good damsel in distress!

    And with original lighting? Whoee!

    I hope the new owner treasures and keeps the stairwell wallpaper.

  4. JimHJimH says: 4867 comments
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    Ethel Cummings Scott, known as Fritzi, died in January at 89. Her husband George had grown up in this house and held onto it for many years as a second home before retiring here. The house had been purchased by his grandmother Sarah in 1897 and was filled with family items from a few generations. Sarah’s husband Thomas Scott had come to Pennsylvania from England with his coal-miner father as an infant and did well as a local businessman.
    Recently the house was cleared out and everything sold at auction, including the nice iron fencing seen in the street view. Apparently Fritzi struggled to keep up with home maintenance, though the low price reflects the market as much as the condition.
    http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/photopanel.cgi?listingid=2432185

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    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11723 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      That sucks about the fence, was that something original or added later?

    • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11723 comments
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      1901 Folk Victorian
      Chestatee, GA

      Wow. So I wonder how much of that stuff belonged to his grandmother, Sarah? I’m afraid I would have been like Jack Lewis in The Remains of the Day, buying everything and keeping it in the house (after buying the house of course!)

      • RossRoss says: 2524 comments
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        1894 QueenAnneFreeClassic
        Emporia, KS

        I love The Remains of the Day! Just watched it (again!) a few weeks ago.

        I like it better with each viewing!

      • JimHJimH says: 4867 comments
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        I’m sure the period furniture and a lot of the stuff was Sarah’s. Her obit says she was one of the smartest and most well-informed people around and a great hostess. She also got what she wanted – she bought the house for herself and her adult employed children, a banker who inherited it and 2 schoolteacher daughters. Her husband lived with 2 other children in a rooming house 15 miles away! There’s a good photo of them:
        http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/47754560/person/12809600920

        • Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11723 comments
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          1901 Folk Victorian
          Chestatee, GA

          Cool, thanks for finding that.

        • Fred says: 10 comments

          JimH, her husband did not live 15 miles away. He ran the Progress Cap and Hat Manufacturing Co. where Clover Hose is now. He also owned a bottling company and the National Hotel, at Oak and Second, recently torn down. Before Sarah bought the home on the Avenue, they were living in the Hotel. Before that, they lived next door to Pat Hester in the Gap.

          • JimHJimH says: 4867 comments
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            Fred, I do my best and go by what the records say. The 1900 census shows Thomas W. Scott living with 2 children in Shenandoah, 15 miles from Mount Carmel. I realize he’s your great grandfather so maybe you have additional information. Thanks for the photos.

            • Fred says: 10 comments

              He owned the Hotel Franky in Shenandoah for a short time. His cousin was Sheriff of Frackville, and would ride down to visit.

              • Fred says: 10 comments

                Hotel Franey.

                • Ally says: 6 comments

                  Hello Fred, My father lived on W. Ave, for many years. I have loved this house since I was a child. May I ask, has it sold? I have actually spoken to Ethel on numerous occasions over the years, (it’s been years) and she had invited me to see the house. Unfortunately, I never made it. I remember a really cool Newel post light. (looked in the window a few times, lol) I do not see it in the pics. Well, here is hoping all is well!

                  • Fred says: 10 comments

                    Yes, it has been sold. A couple from LaVelle. The newel post lamp will be included in the sale.
                    Thank you for asking.
                    I saw a similar lamp on eBay for $3,000.

                    • Ally says: 6 comments

                      I’m glad it has sold, hopefully they will restore & not remodel. I really can’t remember the details of it. Do you happen have a pic of the light? If anything should change with the sale, would you kindly let me know plz. All the best!!!!

    • Melody says: 569 comments

      Wowzers there was a lot of great stuff in that auction!

    • Sean Platter says: 161 comments

      Thanks for the great research JimH! It is a shame about the iron fencing. It can really make a place.

      It would be wonderful to see this propped back up and restored. She’s a beauty!

  5. Ernie says: 130 comments

    If you do a Google image search for Mount Carmel PA you will find an early hand-colored postcard depicting this house perched on the bluff directly across the street from a far more ornate and prominent Orthodox Cathedral which dominates the city skyline and appears to be a much earlier building than the present day structure. In the postcard the house is shown as being painted a reddish brown which most likely represents its original color palette. I find it interesting that there are two onion dome Russian Orthodox churches just a block apart on the same street.

  6. Sapphy says: 411 comments

    I love how they specify that it needs updating. Aesthetically, aside from a few things, i love it as-is!

  7. cheryl plato says: 180 comments

    Love this house so much! As priced, one could repair and restore it. It has so much beauty and originality, fireplaces are gorgeous, hope it is made beautiful again!

  8. Preservation Matters says: 97 comments

    With seven bedrooms, you could easily turn a bedroom into an extra bath or bath/extra closet space.

  9. Pam says: 1 comments

    Love this house. Any serious offers? I’m looking for a fixer upper.

  10. Fred says: 10 comments

    The home has a back stair way from the 1st-2nd floor landing to the kitchen. Perfect for those chilly mornings when you want a cup of coffee quickly. The kitchen also has an annunciator for the maids working the floors to call down to the kitchen. Some of the brass lights are very old, and were installed when the house was converted to electricity. One of the unusual things is that a light switch inside the front door controls a light on the second floor. I suppose it’s to make you feel safer walking up stairs at night.
    The garage is wired for electricity, and has a chimney. There used to be a pot belly stove in the garage corner.

  11. Fred says: 10 comments

    JimH, have we met?
    Fred

    • JimHJimH says: 4867 comments
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      Fred, I don’t know you and can’t recall ever being in Mount Carmel. I just thought the house was interesting and I had a family name to start with. Between the auction info, obits, local history and genealogy, I followed the bread crumbs to sketch a history of a house and the family that owned it for over a century. It’s fun to see a great old home that has a good family story and some faces to go with it. I wish you and new owners the best.
      Do you know the details of who built it and when, architect etc?

      • Fred says: 10 comments

        I have a photo of the house and original fence circa 1910, but I don’t know how to post it. I tried copy and paste from Picasa, but nothing shows up.

        Here is a little history I threw together for the listing agent, Pete Scherer

        History of the Scott Residence at 351 West Ave, Mount Carmel Pennsylvania

        The house, a Edwardian style home was originally built about 1890 by Andrew Robertson, a wealthy coal operator for his daughter Phoebe.
        Mr. Robertson owned the Shamokin Coal and Coke Company, the Turkey Gap Coal and Coke Company among many other successful business ventures. He was one of several capitalists who built and equipped the first electric light plant in the United States, outside of New York City, in Shamokin.
        Scott family lore has it that Phoebe, Mr. Robertson’s daughter, who was married to Frank Gillingham Clemens, a mining engineer, in 1887, did not want to move to Mount Carmel, preferring Shamokin. Historical records, however, show that despite her father’s extensive business interests in Shamokin, the Robertson’s were residents of Pottsville. Indeed, by 1910, the Clemens, Frank, Phoebe and two daughters were living with the 83 year old Andrew Robertson on West Market Street, Pottsville, the approximate site of the current Schlitzer-Allen-Pugh Funeral Home.

        Sarah Ann Gunsett, wife of Thomas Scott, purchased the home in 1897. Thomas Scott owned the Progress Cap and Hat Manufacturing Company, was a director of the Mount Carmel Water Company, and Treasurer of the Mount Carmel Cemetery. He also operated the National Hotel, at 2nd and Oak Sts. that was recently demolished.
        The Scott Family has lived in the home since 1897. The home has served a principal residence to Thomas and Sarah Scott, George W. Scott, Vice President of the First National Bank of Mount Carmel, and his wife Mary Margaret Ferguson, Sallie Belle Scott, sister to George W. and a Mount Carmel school teacher, and George Ferguson Scott, son of George W, and his wife, Ethel Frederick Cummings.
        The home originally has gas lights, but was converted early on to electricity. It still has many gas type electric fixtures. There is a back stair, connecting the kitchen with the landing between the first and second floors, and an annunciator in the kitchen for servants to be able to call down to the kitchen.

  12. Kelly, OHDKelly, OHD says: 11723 comments
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    1901 Folk Victorian
    Chestatee, GA

    Sent in by Fred:

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  13. Fred says: 10 comments

    I know that house well. I think it is the one my Dad used to point out to me as being owned, at the time, by his friend and lawyer Andy Levens.

  14. Fred says: 10 comments

    That’s my grandfather, George W. Scott in the picture. I don’t know the horse’s name.
    Taken about 1910, the year he was married is my guess.

    • cindy says: 7 comments

      I love this house. I’d move today. Sight in seen. It’s calling me…

    • cindy says: 7 comments

      Please tell us more about the house. What is the actual conditions. Not that it would change my opinion of it. I’m just curious. My situation prevernts me from trying. Or I’d b packing

  15. cindy says: 7 comments

    Please update on this beauty! I love this house so much. I look at it often and day dream. I’ve looked at other properties around the area on line. None hold a candle to this one.

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  16. Priscilla says: 2 comments

    Again there is a External door right next to the door. What is up with that practice.?????

  17. Helen Robertson Hesse Skipper says: 1 comments

    I would like to tell you my connection to Frank Gillingham and Phoebe Jane Robertson Clemens. They were my father’s grandparents. My grandmother was Helen Clemens Hesse Pierce. d 1972. Her son, my dad was Robertson Clemens Hesse. d 2000. My husband and I will be celebrating our 40th anniversary in September, and are planning a trip to Pottsville and areas around it. I would love for someone in the area to email me back, if possible. I do not know how to email the agents that sold the house in Mount Carmel, so would appreciate any help. Thank you. Helen

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